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    Quote Originally Posted by kaylagrl View Post
    Well that is a piece of news! Well she disliked me so much that she put me on ignore.lol So I guess I can be thankful for that! She's raising a new pack,which is sad to see. Especially when they draw in young people with their poison and hatred.

    I don't know if people can really be led astray Kayla. There has to be some agreement somewhere, don't you think?
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    stonesoffire:

    I saw your reaction, I will respond later, when the atmosphere here will not be so sharp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desertsrose View Post
    Matthew 23:Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you,how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing.38 Look, your house is left to you desolate.39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’

    Notice Jesus said this after the crowds had already said this. A remnant of Jews were following Jesus all the way through His preaching on the kingdom of God. Jesus said this as a future event, not one that already happened.
    i think it was much more than a small remnant of believers.

    mat 26 4-5 46
    4 and plotted together in order to arrest Jesus by stealth and kill him. 5 But they said, “Not during the feast, lest there be an uproar among the people.”

    46 And although they were seeking to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because they held him to be a prophet.

    they had to plot all this in secret, had the masses found out the plot may have failed

    and twice in mat 26 it tells you the group feared the reaction of the masses.

    mat 21 45
    45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them.

    Jesus knew who was against Him and His teachings, and the leadership knew Jesus was showing the people who they really were. these are the same ones Jesus teaches stole the kingdoms from the people.
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    Can you guys explain what this verse means.

    Romans 9:8 KJV
    That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zone View Post
    Stephen, would mind starting another thread on zone if you have such a problem?
    please don't clutter up this thread.
    thanks again
    Ummmm..... no?
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    Would someone please explain to me why this doctrine is so Satanic and why it necessitates Jew-hating?

    Believing, on conviction of scripture, that the Church replaced Israel does not necessarily mean that one thinks Jews are any less-worthy of salvation than anybody else. It also does not in any way (logically) determine whether or not one thinks the Israeli state should exist- it just means you have to evaluate Israel's actions with the same criteria of every other country.

    The only real problem I see with "Replacement Theology" is that it interprets certain prophecies symbolically when there debatable context available to justify that interpretation.

    To claim it is somehow the doorway to Anti-Semitism is just logically unsound. Suppose we lived in a world where Brazilians were considered the current chosen people by denominations of Christians- saying that they are not is not indicative of a hatred for Brazilians or a belief that they have no viable territorial claim to Sao Paulo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen63 View Post
    Ummmm..... no?
    that's great - thanks stephen
    see you around then
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonesoffire View Post
    I apologize for not answering sooner. These scriptures were written to assure both Jewish and gentile believers that God sent Jesus for all of mankind. Remembering only Israel had access to His presence before the Cross.

    The worlds salvation is like a blip in time, or a interval in a movie that's playing. Sorry folks for the interruption but the movie is about to begin playing again. When all the Gentiles advertisements have finished, the big feature will play out to the end!

    exciting times! Only no one will be eating popcorn or excluded from the finish.
    I am not sure whether only Israel had access to His presence. I think there were some nations who got to monotheism in some era like China and some individuals like Melchisedech who were His servants outside of the people of Israel.

    But yes, Israel was in the line of the Christ, so they got the Scriptures and God worked with them regarding the coming of Christ.

    "When all the Gentiles advertisements have finished, the big feature will play out to the end."
    - I am not sure what this means.
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    Well, there are a lot of Jews in them movie-making business. But they are also in control of marketing :P

    Quote Originally Posted by trofimus View Post
    "When all the Gentiles advertisements have finished, the big feature will play out to the end."
    - I am not sure what this means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen63 View Post
    Ummmm..... no?

    Lol,Im sorry that struck me funny,it reminded me so much of my cousin. That would be his reaction too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJV1611 View Post
    Can you guys explain what this verse means.

    Romans 9:8 KJV
    That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
    Anybody able to answer this question?
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    The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eternally-gratefull View Post

    see, Back to salvation issue, And not the issue of Gods promise to Israel that has NOTHING to do with salvation.
    Everything with God is polarised, because if you are not holy in His presence, you are lost
    and rejected. The Lord is black and white, the ultimate reference point.

    So everything about Him is about eternity and walking into eternity or being lost.
    So you always come down to real salvation, a real relationship or being burnt up.

    Sounds very much like a salvation issue and nothing else.
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    I mean I could, but I would be referencing an ESV Study Bible.

    Quote Originally Posted by KJV1611 View Post
    Anybody able to answer this question?
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    I'm just waiting for somebody to answer my question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trofimus View Post
    I am not sure whether only Israel had access to His presence. I think there were some nations who got to monotheism in some era like China and some individuals like Melchisedech who were His servants outside of the people of Israel.

    But yes, Israel was in the line of the Christ, so they got the Scriptures and God worked with them regarding the coming of Christ.

    "When all the Gentiles advertisements have finished, the big feature will play out to the end."
    - I am not sure what this means.
    it means the gentiles are just Plan B.
    after da wapture it goes back to Plan A
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    Quote Originally Posted by zone View Post
    not at all. I'm being quite reasonable.
    how about you - you acting up lately Stephen?
    I am curious. Is it true you do not believe 6 million jews died in the holocaust?

    I ask because my wife worked on an exhibition dealing with the actual records etc.
    for 2 years, and it is much worse than one can ever imagine. The jews were the
    most badly affected group, but also many christians and protesters against the Nazi's.

    Any christian who talks against the horrific nature and scale of the holocaust is seriously
    flawed at a fundamental level. And the reason is because only hatred brings about this
    position. This is one of the crimes our culture has to bare that brings the lie that people
    without God have limits, they simply do not. God would never standby people who hold
    such a position.

    So many good people where slaughtered by people full of hatred and idiology, if we do not
    learn from this poison it will repeat, generation after generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJens View Post
    I am curious. Is it true you do not believe 6 million jews died in the holocaust?

    I ask because my wife worked on an exhibition dealing with the actual records etc.
    for 2 years, and it is much worse than one can ever imagine. The jews were the
    most badly affected group, but also many christians and protesters against the Nazi's.

    Any christian who talks against the horrific nature and scale of the holocaust is seriously
    flawed at a fundamental level. And the reason is because only hatred brings about this
    position. This is one of the crimes our culture has to bare that brings the lie that people
    without God have limits, they simply do not. God would never standby people who hold
    such a position.

    So many good people where slaughtered by people full of hatred and idiology, if we do not
    learn from this poison it will repeat, generation after generation.
    What does believing or not believing in the Zionist account of the holocaust have to do with anti-semitism?
    Psalm 12:6 KJV
    The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJens View Post
    I am curious. Is it true you do not believe 6 million jews died in the holocaust?

    I ask because my wife worked on an exhibition dealing with the actual records etc.
    for 2 years, and it is much worse than one can ever imagine. The jews were the
    most badly affected group, but also many christians and protesters against the Nazi's.

    Any christian who talks against the horrific nature and scale of the holocaust is seriously
    flawed at a fundamental level. And the reason is because only hatred brings about this
    position. This is one of the crimes our culture has to bare that brings the lie that people
    without God have limits, they simply do not. God would never standby people who hold
    such a position.

    So many good people where slaughtered by people full of hatred and idiology, if we do not
    learn from this poison it will repeat, generation after generation.
    What's your take on this verse? And no I'm not an antisemite because I asked you this question.

    Romans 9:8 KJV
    That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
    Psalm 12:6 KJV
    The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJV1611 View Post
    What does believing or not believing in the Zionist account of the holocaust have to do with anti-semitism?
    What's so zionist about factual history, recorded accounts of survivors, and recorded accounts of soldiers who went into the concentration camps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NarrowRoadDisciple View Post
    What's so zionist about factual history, recorded accounts of survivors, and recorded accounts of soldiers who went into the concentration camps?

    Ya!Good question! What is "Zionist account of the holocaust" supposed to mean KJV?! Do tell us,please. This I got to hear...
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