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    Quote Originally Posted by NarrowRoadDisciple View Post
    What's so zionist about factual history, recorded accounts of survivors, and recorded accounts of soldiers who went into the concentration camps?
    Everybody knows the Zionist control the media... didn't you know that?
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    I am not sure whether only Israel had access to His presence. I think there were some nations who got to monotheism in some era like China and some individuals like Melchisedech who were His servants outside of the people of Israel.

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    Is there some kind of historical evidence about China? My personal opinion about Melchizedek is that this was Eloah of the trinity, the Lord of Heaven. To explain why I think this is a whole other thread.

    But yes, Israel was in the line of the Christ, so they got the Scriptures and God worked with them regarding the coming of Christ.

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    I would of worded this differently but I understand what you are saying.

    "When all the Gentiles advertisements have finished, the big feature will play out to the end."

    - I am not sure what this means.

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    joking


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    Quote Originally Posted by KJV1611 View Post
    Everybody knows the Zionist control the media... didn't you know that?
    The Nazis kept very meticulous records. There is no doubt as to what happened in the Holocaust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaylagrl View Post
    The Nazis kept very meticulous records. There is no doubt as to what happened in the Holocaust.
    You believe your propoganda others believe theirs but what does this have to do with anitsemitism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJV1611 View Post
    You believe your propoganda others believe theirs but what does this have to do with anitsemitism?
    Soooo now we're saying the Holocaust was "propaganda"? Germans were brought through the concentration camps to view what had been done. Many books have been written about what was endured,like Corrie Ten Boom who lost her whole family because they aided the Jews. The Hiding Place shown in churches still today tells her story of survival and what she endured. I have no taste for Holocaust deniers. They are Jew haters if anti-semitism doesn't make sense to you. But Im sure you are not denying the Holocaust... I truly hope you are not.

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    Yes, they were very proud of themselves. Scumbags.

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    The Nazis kept very meticulous records. There is no doubt as to what happened in the Holocaust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desdichado View Post
    Yes, they were very proud of themselves. Scumbags.

    Well according to KJV it was" propaganda "

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJV1611 View Post
    Can you guys explain what this verse means.

    Romans 9:8 KJV
    That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
    In the OT Israel was called sons of God. Paul was teaching the new creation man which is a spiritual being. Israel thought in an outward obedience to laws...when trust and faith is what pleases Him, birthed out of love.

    And we all know this.

    Israel did have faith too though. They believed blood sacrifice to cover their sins. Partly right. Yeshua's blood purges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaylagrl View Post
    Soooo now we're saying the Holocaust was "propaganda"? Germans were brought through the concentration camps to view what had been done. Many books have been written about what was endured,like Corrie Ten Boom who lost her whole family because they aided the Jews. The Hiding Place shown in churches still today tells her story of survival and what she endured. I have no taste for Holocaust deniers. They are Jew haters if anti-semitism doesn't make sense to you. But Im sure you are not denying the Holocaust... I truly hope you are not.
    I have no clue what happened in the holocaust, I wasn't there and I really don't care what happened there. Innocent people are murdered by the millions all over the world in holocausts, why is the Jewish holocaust any worse than any other holocaust?

    Edit. the question I asked was why does one's view on the holocaust make them antisemtic?
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    You guys are quick to call people antisemites, what qualifies us to be antisemites?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonesoffire View Post
    In the OT Israel was called sons of God. Paul was teaching the new creation man which is a spiritual being. Israel thought in an outward obedience to laws...when trust and faith is what pleases Him, birthed out of love.

    And we all know this.

    Israel did have faith too though. They believed blood sacrifice to cover their sins. Partly right. Yeshua's blood purges.
    Flesh descendants of Israel were never called the sons of God... never. The children of the promise are the children or sons of God.. not flesh descendants of Abraham nor Israel.
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    KJV1611 - you have to be very careful. I mean this very sincerely. What the Nazi where
    was part of christian history, the war between scape goating societies problems onto
    conspiracy theories. It was easier to blame the jews and that the bad guys rigged everything.

    Unfortunately right wing fascists play down the impact of denying the holocaust, talk as if this
    is just normal behaviour and acceptable, it happens everywhere, it is all about propoganda.

    I have no respect for people who talk like this and if you reached 51 not knowing the difference,
    faith is far from you. So many people died, who are defined by this one piece of history, which
    effected our families, the whole history of the church, theology, reality are wrapped up in the
    discussion of national socialism, and the fascist tendencies within many christian groups.

    So this subject matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJV1611 View Post
    I have no clue what happened in the holocaust, I wasn't there and I really don't care what happened there. Innocent people are murdered by the millions all over the world in holocausts, why is the Jewish holocaust any worse than any other holocaust?

    Edit. the question I asked was why does one's view on the holocaust make them antisemtic?
    Quote Originally Posted by KJV1611 View Post
    You guys are quick to call people antisemites, what qualifies us to be antisemites?
    I didn't call you an antisemite. An antisemite is one who hates the Jewish people.
    For Christians to do so is the height of arrogance since they are the original branches of whom God has exhorted Christians not to boast against.

    I think that what they are referring to, is that people and even Christians who deny the factual history of the Holocaust tend to be antisemites, not that you are an antisemite.

    You are correct about the "sons of God." In the OT, only the direct creations of God are called sons of God. This would include Adam and the angels. For the NT dynamic, as we are born again of God, born again believers in Christ have the right to be called children of God. Jesus is also the Son of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJens View Post
    KJV1611 - you have to be very careful. I mean this very sincerely. What the Nazi where
    was part of christian history, the war between scape goating societies problems onto
    conspiracy theories. It was easier to blame the jews and that the bad guys rigged everything.

    Unfortunately right wing fascists play down the impact of denying the holocaust, talk as if this
    is just normal behaviour and acceptable, it happens everywhere, it is all about propoganda.

    I have no respect for people who talk like this and if you reached 51 not knowing the difference,
    faith is far from you. So many people died, who are defined by this one piece of history, which
    effected our families, the whole history of the church, theology, reality are wrapped up in the
    discussion of national socialism, and the fascist tendencies within many christian groups.

    So this subject matters.
    I have nothing against Jews, I just don't worship them and put them on a pedestal that they don't belong on. Sorry if you can't see this in the bible, it's there in black and white.

    Once again - I do not hate Jews, I just don't worship them. Plain and simple, this is my stance on God hating Jesus killing Jews. Why would you elevate the people that HATE the God you worship?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJV1611 View Post
    I have nothing against Jews, I just don't worship them and put them on a pedestal that they don't belong on. Sorry if you can't see this in the bible, it's there in black and white.

    Once again - I do not hate Jews, I just don't worship them. Plain and simple, this is my stance on God hating Jesus killing Jews. Why would you elevate the people that HATE the God you worship?
    Yes, the Jewish people had Jesus killed. Yes they did it out of blindness. This is as far as we go as Christians regarding the factual nature of what happened. Jesus knew that they would have Him killed. It had to happen in order to further God's work on the cross... so that the gentiles may have a chance at salvation too. They had to fall so that we could be grafted in. We don't continue to call them Jesus killing Jews with any vitriol, neither do we worship and elevate them. They are, however, still God's first love and He will return His attention to them so they may come to Christ.

    We pray that they may come to the knowledge of Christ and be saved. We know that blindness has come to them until the fullness of the gentiles comes in. After that they will have the chance as a whole to come to know Christ. Many have already come to Christ and had the veil pulled away from their eyes already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NarrowRoadDisciple View Post
    I didn't call you an antisemite. An antisemite is one who hates the Jewish people.
    For Christians to do so is the height of arrogance since they are the original branches of whom God has exhorted Christians not to boast against.

    I think that what they are referring to, is that people and even Christians who deny the factual history of the Holocaust tend to be antisemites, not that you are an antisemite.

    You are correct about the "sons of God." In the OT, only the direct creations of God are called sons of God. This would include Adam and the angels. For the NT dynamic, as we are born again of God, born again believers in Christ have the right to be called children of God. Jesus is also the Son of God.
    I don't think anybody knows what really happened during the holocaust. The victor always writes the history books. Here's a nice quote for you, take it to heart because he really means what he says.

    William Casey (CIA Director), "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJV1611 View Post
    I don't think anybody knows what really happened during the holocaust. The victor always writes the history books. Here's a nice quote for you, take it to heart because he really means what he says.

    William Casey (CIA Director), "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."?
    If we don't know what really happened during the Holocaust, then you cannot for certain call it propaganda. It goes both ways.
    However, we do have eye witness accounts. That lends credence to the veracity of what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NarrowRoadDisciple View Post
    Yes, the Jewish people had Jesus killed. Yes they did it out of blindness. This is as far as we go as Christians regarding the factual nature of what happened. Jesus knew that they would have Him killed. It had to happen in order to further God's work on the cross... so that the gentiles may have a chance at salvation too. They had to fall so that we could be grafted in. We don't continue to call them Jesus killing Jews with any vitriol, neither do we worship and elevate them. They are, however, still God's first love and He will return His attention to them so they may come to Christ.

    We pray that they may come to the knowledge of Christ and be saved. We know that blindness has come to them until the fullness of the gentiles comes in. After that they will have the chance as a whole to come to know Christ. Many have already come to Christ and had the veil pulled away from their eyes already.
    Fleshly Jews have never been God's chosen people.

    Romans 9:8 KJV
    That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

    Is it impossible for this verse to be understood? The children of the flesh - flesh descendants of Abraham ARE NOT the children of God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NarrowRoadDisciple View Post
    If we don't know what really happened during the Holocaust, then you cannot for certain call it propaganda. It goes both ways.
    However, we do have eye witness accounts. That lends credence to the veracity of what happened.
    I've already said that I have no idea what happened during the holocaust, there could have been 6 million Jews killed BUT if I believe otherwise then why am I called an antisemite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJV1611 View Post
    I have no clue what happened in the holocaust, I wasn't there and I really don't care what happened there. Innocent people are murdered by the millions all over the world in holocausts, why is the Jewish holocaust any worse than any other holocaust?

    Edit. the question I asked was why does one's view on the holocaust make them antisemtic?

    Quote "I have no clue what happened in the holocaust,I wasn't there ..."

    But there were people there and they gave testimony to what happened and Nazis records show what happened. You weren't at a lot of historical events in history do you deny them or just the Holocaust?

    Quote " I really don't care what happened there."

    Over 6 million people,souls, innocents,children were systematically murdered,gassed,shot and you dont care? Can you tell me how this relates to the Christ you claim to serve? You do not care? How can you not care that humans were slaughtered like lambs?

    Quote "
    why is the Jewish holocaust any worse than any other holocaust?"

    Who said worse? Who said other lives don't matter? The Jews were led to be slaughtered,cooped up like cattle in a trains and shipped to be murdered. It was horrific,thats why it matters.

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