"replacement theology" - what is it?

garee · Dec 14, 2016

It has to do with worshiping the flesh and not walking by faith.God is not a Jew he is not a man as us and neither is there any days-man between us . There are no Jews in heaven, neither male or female only a new creature .

But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free Gal 4:29

KJV1611 · Dec 14, 2016

garee said:

It has to do with worshiping the flesh and not walking by faith.God is not a Jew he is not a man as us and neither is there any days-man between us . There are no Jews in heaven, neither male or female .

But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free Gal 4:29

The bondwoman is the flesh descendants of Israel... that's who these folks are putting up on a pedestal.

KJV1611 · Dec 14, 2016

kaylagrl said:

Quote "I have no clue what happened in the holocaust,I wasn't there ..."

But there were people there and they gave testimony to what happened and Nazis records show what happened. You weren't at a lot of historical events in history do you deny them or just the Holocaust?

Quote " I really don't care what happened there."

Over 6 million people,souls, innocents,children were systematically murdered,gassed,shot and you dont care? Can you tell me how this relates to the Christ you claim to serve? You do not care? How can you not care that humans were slaughtered like lambs?

Quote "why is the Jewish holocaust any worse than any other holocaust?"

Who said worse? Who said other lives don't matter? The Jews were led to be slaughtered,cooped up like cattle in a trains and shipped to be murdered. It was horrific,thats why it matters.

I haven't seen you speak of any other holocaust, but if I missed it then I apologize to you.

PeterJens · Dec 14, 2016

KJV1611 said:

We know what happened in the holocaust in infinite detail.
We know from surviving family victims. We know from guards and soldiers who took part.
We know from records. We know from pictures, from archaeological digs of the death camps
of the means of creating poisons to dropped into shower cubicules, of the development of special
ovens to burn the bodies, of human skin pulled across lamp shades, of human experiments,
of stolen clothes. We know of families, of the trains that took the people to the death camps.

Of all the incidents and attrocieties that occurred in the 2nd world war, the whole societies of
Germany, France, Poland carry a heavy burden. In Denmark the whole society knew and
many smuggled jews out to Sweden. The fact you even write the words you have written
are a stain against you and even cc. If the Nazis came and torched all the people you have
loved, took your whole existance, and you met a man who said, no one knows, you would
know why it is a crime in Germany to say what you have said. Shame on you. This lie
is so evil, it is a sin to talk the way you are talking. You take the blood split by these
men on yourself and stand judged before the King on High.

The boy in stripped pajamas and many others convey the horror of just a small part of this
event. It is so bad, I cannot take watching it. These were ordinary people who happened to
have a jewish relative, who died, nothing more.

The fascist lie is to say, no they are all lying, but what they really mean is they deserve it,
6 million was not enough, 12 million would have been better. And that is the real irony, the facts
are not in question, just the idea of worshipping the jews or exalting them, is hated so much, because
they do not deserve to be called victims. That is real hatred, real evil, real satanic stuff, no hidden
words or wild accusation of demons, this is nothing of love and Christ but true enemy of all that which
is pure holy and loving.

So maybe, just as Gods love dwells in the strangest of places, so does satans hatred and evil.

KJV1611 · Dec 14, 2016

PeterJens said:

We know what happened in the holocaust in infinite detail.
We know from surviving family victims. We know from guards and soldiers who took part.
We know from records. We know from pictures, from archaeological digs of the death camps
of the means of creating poisons to dropped into shower cubicules, of the development of special
ovens to burn the bodies, of human skin pulled across lamp shades, of human experiments,
of stolen clothes. We know of families, of the trains that took the people to the death camps.

Of all the incidents and attrocieties that occurred in the 2nd world war, the whole societies of
Germany, France, Poland carry a heavy burden. In Denmark the whole society knew and
many smuggled jews out to Sweden. The fact you even write the words you have written
are a stain against you and even cc. If the Nazis came and torched all the people you have
loved, took your whole existance, and you met a man who said, no one knows, you would
know why it is a crime in Germany to say what you have said. Shame on you. This lie
is so evil, it is a sin to talk the way you are talking. You take the blood split by these
men on yourself and stand judged before the King on High.

The boy in stripped pajamas and many others convey the horror of just a small part of this
event. It is so bad, I cannot take watching it. These were ordinary people who happened to
have a jewish relative, who died, nothing more.

The fascist lie is to say, no they are all lying, but what they really mean is they deserve it,
6 million was not enough, 12 million would have been better. And that is the real irony, the facts
are not in question, just the idea of worshipping the jews or exalting them, is hated so much, because
they do not deserve to be called victims. That is real hatred, real evil, real satanic stuff, no hidden
words or wild accusation of demons, this is nothing of love and Christ but true enemy of all that which
is pure holy and loving.

So maybe, just as Gods love dwells in the strangest of places, so does satans hatred and evil.

Have you ever in your life looked at the evidence against the holocaust?

Desertsrose · Dec 14, 2016

KJV1611 said:

Exodus 4:22,23

Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord, “Israel is My son, My firstborn. So I said to you, ‘Let My son go that he may serve Me’; but you have refused to let him go. Behold, I will kill your son, your firstborn.”’”

Deuteronomy 14:1, 2

“You are the sons of the Lord your God; you shall not cut yourselves nor shave your forehead for the sake of the dead. For you are a holy people to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.

Desertsrose · Dec 14, 2016

KJV1611 said:

You know KJV, you're not being truthful here. You've called them names in this thread.

PeterJens · Dec 14, 2016

KJV1611 said:

If you understand when I say my wife worked on the holocaust for two years, she did all the
picture research behind the beginning of the build up of the Nazi party, their propoganda, their
pogroms, their transportation, their camps, their shipping of people etc.

You are a total fool to even ask this question. I would ban you for life from this web site,
put you prison, and if I met you attack you physically. There is no deeper crime than the evil
that spewed from Hitler, the filled mien Camph, all his speeches, his lies, his stupidity, how
Germans flocked after this lunatic, butchered 30 million slarvs across eastern Europe.

I know my enemy, I know his psychopathic attitude, how life was a game, and that people were
sub-human and the arian race where the superior dominating group on the earth. It is all lies,
all invention, that still lives within many. KKK are part of the same idiology, and a flip side the
Islamic Jihadists.

And you would know this also if you knew Christ and love. The point the apostles made is simple
if you cannot love you brother or sister, you do not have Christ in your heart is true.

Now the problem is truly, what will this forum do, where will they fall. Am I to be banned for
saying we are to love our enemy, or deny they were ever abused and butchered from hatred.

KJV1611 · Dec 14, 2016

Desertsrose said:

Do you mean God hating Jesus killers? I think those are the only words I used to describe them. Are you denying that words aren't true?

tourist · Dec 14, 2016

KJV1611 said:

Speaking for myself only, the reason Jesus died on the cross was because He loved me enough to die for me. The Jews didn't kill Jesus but rather sin. God does not hate Jesus killers but has infinite love in His heart for them. It was my sins that led to the death of Jesus.

PeterJens · Dec 14, 2016

A sad observation, is those who hate jews will also be found on the side opposing Israel.

It does not make Israel right, but it helps the argument to oppose Israel is because of hatred
not legitimate problems.

Equally radical Islamists say because the right wing hate the Islamic fascists it is they who are
victims rather than creators of the violence. Syria demonstrates this is a lie, but then in this
insane game, the liar does not care what he does, as long as death is the result, it is always
satans way of wisdom.

KJV1611 · Dec 14, 2016

PeterJens said:

So you would hurt me physically if you could? Just calm down for a minute and read this Jewish holocaust deniers letter to Steven Spielberg... the guy writing this letter is a Jew.

A letter to Spielberg from Roger Dommergue Polacco de Menasce, a French Jew.

Dear M.Spielberg,
I wish your honesty to be equal to your very great talent. I saw you on T.V in France. You declared that you would pour out Shoa propaganda in German schools. You mentioned that witnesses would convince for good, as to the reality of the Shoa (6-million-gas-chambers).
I feel it my duty as a Jew and after 20 years study of the historical problem of the holocaust, to call your attention to the facts. Facts are very stubborn and as no one can gainsay them, our congeners have been compelled to make disgusting politicians enact stalino-orwellian laws which forbid to mention anything concerning the dogma of the ‘six-million-gas-chambers,’ definitively reduced to perpetual worship of this
alchemy.
In case of no respect of silence and worship of the myth, you suffer the penalty of fines or prison or both. Professor Faurisson who has been studying the subject for 20 years, has been practically massacred. This is utterly ridiculous but give the Police and the Justice of all countries to Mr Lévy, he will not be ridiculous any more: here is the XXth century!
These laws are, accordingly, the absolute proof of the fake before we study its arithmetical and technical ineptitude. No Sir, you will not find ONE witness who saw 6 millions Jews slaughtered. You will not find ONE witness of Zyclon- B- gas chambers to exterminate 1000 or 2000 people at a time, close to the crematoria. See my ‘Shoa Sherlockholmised’ herewith: it is the summary of 20 years study on the subject. The ‘6-million-gas-chambers myth ‘is an arithmetic and technical nonsense.
As a matter of fact the howling, snivelling, Shoa business, 50 years after the war, is disgusting, debasing: it is a disgraceful shame. No people in History has ever been wailing about its losses 50 years after a war, even its true and real losses. Even if the 6-million-gas-chambers were true, it would be a dishonour to make such din and pump up so much money everywhere: who were the usurers of the Weimar Republic? You know it as well as I do. It is all the more so as we know that 6.000.000 is gross exaggeration and that the zyclon B gas chambers are a technical impossibility. ( See Degesh Trial in 1949).
In fact 150,000 or 200,000 Jews died in the German camps of typhus or starvation. Many others died but as fighters against Germany to which we, the Jews, had declared war in 1933! ( Hitler was allergic to the hegemony of gold and of the dollar: so he could give work to six million unemployed, before the functioning of German armament factories!). Do you know the book published at this period and written by our congener Kaufmann: ‘ GERMANY MUST PERISH?’
We know that 80,000,000 Goyim were slaughtered in the USSR , in a political regime which was entirely Jewish, from Marx and Warburg, to Kaganovitch, Frenkel, Yagoda, the executioners. We know that after 1945 Americans and Russians killed and raped German communities all over Europe from Lithuania to Albania .
We know that 1,500,000 German war prisoners were starved to death after the war (a famous book was published a few years ago, but is ignored to day). You will find here included in French the text of a rabbi: ‘A rabbi pleads guilty’: unfortunately I possess neither the German original nor an English translation. You should have it translated. The Rabbi condemns the Jewish behaviour in Germany 50 years before Nazism and vindicates the emergence of Hitler.
As for the harm we have done to Humanity is absolutely not redeemed by your excellent films or the virtuosity of Yehudi Menuhin, or the neutron bomb of S.T. Cohen, I wrote a book about it from texts written by important Jews which are much above the most anti-Semitic text written by Goyim. Simone Weil drew a tragic summary: ‘The Jews, this handful of uprooted people, have been the cause of the uprooting of the whole mankind’. And George Steiner: ‘For 5000 years we have been talking too much: words of death for us and for the others.’
We know that all the German towns of more than 100,000 people have been destroyed during the last war, with women and children: silence about this real holocaust. If we consider the turn taken by the Shoa business, what you intend to do in Germany is actually the safest way to a heaping up of a huge amount of anti-jewish sentiment the explosion of which will be unique in History.
Discretion and moderation must be our behaviour: all the rest is suicide. Neither ‘mondialism’ nor orwellian laws for ‘crime of thought’ can prevent antisemitism to explode: only OUR behaviour can. What you do and all the whining and money pumping can only egg it on. It will increase out of reasonable proportions, if there can be a reasonable proportion to antisemitism.
I know that it is practically impossible to check our propensity to speculation and that only the abolition of circumcision at the 8th day could (our particularism derives from the disturbance of the 21 days of the 1st puberty, which starts precisely at the 8th day ) but we must, at least, try to avoid such blunders as the one you intend to perform in Germany and which would be appalling.
I am a great admirer of your films (except the Shindler list: ask his wife and the historical real reality, but this is a minor blunder). I hope your will scrutinise what I send you and escape the folly of the majority of our congeners . I will always answer you if you have the integrity to write to me.
Cordialement à vous.
Roger Dommergue Polacco de Menasce

Desertsrose · Dec 14, 2016

KJV1611 said:

No you called them scumbags. You've said other things as well, I just can't remember what else.

kaylagrl · Dec 14, 2016

KJV1611 said:

We're not talking about Holocausts,we're talking about Replacement Theology,thats the subject of the thread. If you want to talk holocausts start a thread.

KJV1611 · Dec 14, 2016

Desertsrose said:

Go find that and repost it, I have a hard time believing I would call anybody a scumbag, that's not a word that I ever use.

KJV1611 · Dec 14, 2016

kaylagrl said:

I didn't bring it up, I think you did. You were accusing those of us that don't worship the Jews of being antisemites.

stonesoffire · Dec 14, 2016

KJV1611 said:

Exo 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, evenmy firstborn:

KJV1611 · Dec 14, 2016

stonesoffire said:

What happens to the firstborn's blessing in story after story in the Old Testament? Who is God's second born son?

kaylagrl · Dec 14, 2016

PeterJens said:

We know what happened in the holocaust in infinite detail.
We know from surviving family victims. We know from guards and soldiers who took part.
We know from records. We know from pictures, from archaeological digs of the death camps
of the means of creating poisons to dropped into shower cubicules, of the development of special
ovens to burn the bodies, of human skin pulled across lamp shades, of human experiments,
of stolen clothes. We know of families, of the trains that took the people to the death camps.

Of all the incidents and attrocieties that occurred in the 2nd world war, the whole societies of
Germany, France, Poland carry a heavy burden. In Denmark the whole society knew and
many smuggled jews out to Sweden. The fact you even write the words you have written
are a stain against you and even cc. If the Nazis came and torched all the people you have
loved, took your whole existance, and you met a man who said, no one knows, you would
know why it is a crime in Germany to say what you have said. Shame on you. This lie
is so evil, it is a sin to talk the way you are talking. You take the blood split by these
men on yourself and stand judged before the King on High.

The boy in stripped pajamas and many others convey the horror of just a small part of this
event. It is so bad, I cannot take watching it. These were ordinary people who happened to
have a jewish relative, who died, nothing more.

The fascist lie is to say, no they are all lying, but what they really mean is they deserve it,
6 million was not enough, 12 million would have been better. And that is the real irony, the facts
are not in question, just the idea of worshipping the jews or exalting them, is hated so much, because
they do not deserve to be called victims. That is real hatred, real evil, real satanic stuff, no hidden
words or wild accusation of demons, this is nothing of love and Christ but true enemy of all that which
is pure holy and loving.

So maybe, just as Gods love dwells in the strangest of places, so does satans hatred and evil.

Such a wonderfully heart felt post. I could not have said it better. I feel the same way, I cannot bear to watch even movies about the Holocaust. I have seen parts of Schindlers List and cry at the ending every time. I wish I could rep your posts several times.

Bladerunner · Dec 14, 2016

tourist said:

Very good post,,,,,, The death of Jesus on the Cross was ordained a long time before creation. The OT speaks of it if you know where to look.

Jesus said on the cross,,,"Forgive them for they know not what they do" He forgave those that sent Him to His death.

KJV611,,,why can you not as well

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