"replacement theology" - what is it?

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Bladerunner

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error in every sentence.
ask someone how to help you out of all that error.
posting this scenario repeatedly doesn't make it true.
it isn't islam isn't in scripture.
7 years of God's wrath - where does that come from?
oh.....Daniel 9. right.

Having knowledge about the Lutheran Church and their teachings, I know you are way out there somewhere simply becasue they have brainwashed you... I can tell you this, The New Jerusalem that will descend out of heaven after the final White Throne Judgement

will NOT Land in Missouri

 
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Does it????? Right now we are in the "age of Grace".......How is that different???????

How is what different ? None of us are saved by grace (thru faith) .. unless and until .. we repent and call upon the name of our Lord. We are not restored to God first (in any which way) ... and then afterwards repent. Dispensationalists have it backwards in regards to the Jews.

Why sure it is....God brought the people back to their land after 2600 years and it was foretold by Ezekiel. Yes, there is a group within Israel that does not believe that Jesus is the Messiah but they still believe in God. And God tells us HE (HE) will punish them for this discretion. Roughly 2/3 of those left behind after the Rapture will not make it and the other third will be forever in his loving light.

You mean indiscretion ? The indiscretion of rejecting God's Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ ? He who has not the Son has not the Father also. Need I post where this is found ? So according to dispensational theology (and you), 2/3's of "all Israel" won't be saved then ?


God brought it on,,,,,NO...He did not stop it and He predicted it because from the beginning He already knew that it was going to happen. He gives man free will, because He knows the future for everyone.

Jesus pronounced the judgement of Israel that was to come .. to "this generation". And come it did, in 70 A.D.
 

trofimus

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Having knowledge about the Lutheran Church and their teachings, I know you are way out there somewhere simply becasue they have brainwashed you... I can tell you this, The New Jerusalem that will descend out of heaven after the final White Throne Judgement

will NOT Land in Missouri

Hmm... ok, so where ?

And try to write your posts without "brainwashing" naming, its not relevant for this topic.
 

zone

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Having knowledge about the Lutheran Church and their teachings, I know you are way out there somewhere simply becasue they have brainwashed you... I can tell you this, The New Jerusalem that will descend out of heaven after the final White Throne Judgement

will NOT Land in Missouri

your theory doesn't work.
I've only been a member of the Lutheran church for about 5 years.
all studies etc came well before that.
 

zone

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Luke 22:20
In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you..."

"new covenant in my blood"
hmm....does new mean new?
did the new covenant replace something?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Does it????? Right now we are in the "age of Grace".......How is that different???????

How is what different ? None of us are saved by grace (thru faith) .. unless and until .. we repent and call upon the name of our Lord. We are not restored to God first (in any which way) ... and then afterwards repent. Dispensationalists have it backwards in regards to the Jews.

lol. This is funny.

This is not a church age thing, this is a God thing. We have it backwards? Since when? No jew wil be saved, or EVER HAS BEEN SAVED apart from true repentance and faith

how long will this SLANDER continue?
 
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Luke 22:20
In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you..."

"new covenant in my blood"
hmm....does new mean new?
did the new covenant replace something?

Yep.

It does not replace certain things though.
 

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Although Israel describes itself as a Jewish state, all religious groups have freedom to practice and maintain communal institutions in Israel. According to the 2009 US Department of State report on Israel and the occupied territories, "The Israeli Basic Law on Human Dignity and Liberty provides for freedom of worship and the Government generally respected this right in practice."

After gaining control of the West Bank in 1967, Israel guaranteed Muslim access to mosques including the Al-Aqsa Mosque and Christian access to churches. Wikipedia

The country’s laws and policies provide for religious freedom and the government generally respected religious freedom in practice. The trend in the government’s respect for religious freedom did not change significantly during the year. The Basic Law on Human Dignity and Liberty protects religious freedom through reference to the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel. The declaration describes the country as a Jewish state with full social and political equality, regardless of religious affiliation, and provides for freedom of religion.- US Department of State
Whether there is freedom to practice your religion in Israel is not the point I was making. It is obvious that it is to Israels advantage to allow churches in Israel to exist if only for tourism purp;oses. The point is that Christian groups from outside Israel are not allowed to proselytize in Israel. There are Moslem countries that allow citizens to practice other religions Egypt being an example but allowing foreign missionary's in is another matter entirely
 

stonesoffire

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That seems unjust to all other unbelievers throughout space and time, but rather than questioning God on His divine omnipotence, I'm just going to sit back, relax, and embrace the grace. :)
I've said before I'm not that up on end time events but it does seem to me that not that many will be left after the tribulation.

Is this true?
 

Bladerunner

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Does it????? Right now we are in the "age of Grace".......How is that different???????

So according to dispensational theology (and you), 2/3's of "all Israel" won't be saved then ?


Zechariah 13:7-9 "Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones. And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God."
 

Bladerunner

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Hmm... ok, so where ?

And try to write your posts without "brainwashing" naming, its not relevant for this topic.




I will admit "brainwashing" should not have been used. No excuses

Since God remakes the entire earth, there will be no Missouri to put it in........ Simple deduction my friend. It is named "the New Jerusalem". I would think that the land around it would be more like the garden of Eden was in the beginning without mortal man
 
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Zechariah 13:7-9 "Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones. And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God."
Maybe I'm mistaken but it seems like you're trying to put Zech 13 at the second coming.

Did you notice that verse said "smite the shepherd and the sheep shall be scattered"? Who is God's shepherd? When was he smitten? When were two parts cut off and the third left in? Read the verse below.

Matthew 26:31-32 KJV
Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad. [32] But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee.
 

Bladerunner

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Maybe I'm mistaken but it seems like you're trying to put Zech 13 at the second coming.

Did you notice that verse said "smite the shepherd and the sheep shall be scattered"? Who is God's shepherd? When was he smitten? When were two parts cut off and the third left in? Read the verse below.

Matthew 26:31-32 KJV
Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad. [32] But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee.

Yes sir I am........Try Hosea 5:15.." I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early."

This too is an OT prophecy about the end times.......Good Day
 
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Yes sir I am........Try Hosea 5:15.." I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early."

This too is an OT prophecy about the end times.......Good Day
Unbelievable! They smote the shepherd 2000 years ago (Matthew says so) and you know they did, how can you put this at the 2nd coming?

Edit: Do you dispy guys even care what the bible says? Please read the verse below.

Matthew 26:31 KJV
Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad.
 
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I've said before I'm not that up on end time events but it does seem to me that not that many will be left after the tribulation.

Is this true?
I don't know the answer to that, my brother. Prophesy is not my gift and I'm not well read on the subject. Hopefully someone who is gifted and filled with the Spirit can help us out on that one.
 
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Yes sir I am........Try Hosea 5:15.." I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early."

This too is an OT prophecy about the end times.......Good Day
Here's Hosea 5:15 in context.

Hosea 5:14-15 KJV
For I will be unto Ephraim as a lion, and as a young lion to the house of Judah: I, even I, will tear and go away; I will take away, and none shall rescue him.

  • God is going to be like a lion (the lion of the tribe of Judah) to Ephraim and Judah.
  • The lion of the tribe of Judah is going to tear them, then the lion of the tribe of Judah is going to GO AWAY AFTER he has torn them.
  • The lion of the tribe of Judah is going to take Ephraim and Judah AWAY and nobody came stop it.

[15] I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.

  • AFTER he has torn them (not at the end of the world) he is going BACK TO HEAVEN.
  • And they will seek him EARLY (not 2000 years later) AFTER they acknowledge their offence.
 

stonesoffire

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Look for example at this video.
He is talking about how the old Chinese alphabet shows the biblical stories and then concludes (48 minute of the video) that the original Chinese religion was monotheism and the worship of the true God.

[video=youtube;DA-AkJzpKmg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA-AkJzpKmg[/video]
But, the geneaology of Jesus goes back to Adam and Jesus is of Israel. I don't know where the Chinese begin or which son of Noah. Perhaps this is why they were chosen?

And scriptures are from Israel not China. Didn't watch the video. Am just ducking in for a moment. So later I will.
 

stonesoffire

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I don't know the answer to that, my brother. Prophesy is not my gift and I'm not well read on the subject. Hopefully someone who is gifted and filled with the Spirit can help us out on that one.
That would be an unusual prophecy. :)

And this just came to mind...not to add anything to Revelations. The book that is.
 
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Ephraim held the birthright (inheritance) for Israel, and Judah the Sceptre (Kingship).

1 Chronicles 5 1,2

So when you see Israel or Ephraim, as opposed to Judah, it is making the distinction between the Northern and Southern Kingdoms, as when the Kingdom split, Ephraim retained the name of Israel under the birthright.