Does God see everything?

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For instance, in the book of Jonah chapter 1:2, Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.

It seems their wickedness was brought before God by others; angels, watchmen, etc..

Habakkuk 1:13, Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

Can God look upon evil and iniquity? Scripture says no. God is too pure and holy. Did not God look away from His Son as He became sin for us on the cross? Do we really think God is looking down at all the pornography, rape, murders, and all the rest of the sinning on this earth? Something to think about.

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The angels do works for God. I am sure that they watch over the earth for Him, as instructed by Him.

We are also told that God does not need us. I am sure this is true with the angels as well.

God often has His creations do things for Him, if you read the bible, you see many stories of people who do as they are instructed to by Him. Of course, He could do anything on His own if He needed to. But it is pleasing to Him to have His creations serve Him.

I have thought on this before, I believe that though God is all seeing, He still allows His creations to serve Him, including angels who's job it is to watch the earth and bring Him information on what they see. Not because He needs them to, but because it is pleasing to Him when His creations trust in Him and serve Him.
 
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Of course He sees it...

Yet they say, The Lord shall not see, neither shall the God of Jacob regard it.
Psalms 94:7
 
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I think that Habakkuk has been looked at incorrectly because of the way it was written in the KJV. It's not that God can't look on sin - because He can - He is too holy or good to "approve of sin or to look at it with favor".

Jesus looked at sin the whole time He was on this earth. God doesn't approve of sin because it is the complete opposite of His nature which is goodness personified.

In Habakkuk chapter 1 - the prophet is asking God some questions and stating some things that he believes about God.

Habakkuk 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Your eyes are too pure to approve evil, And You can not look on wickedness with favor. Why do You look with favor On those who deal treacherously? Why are You silent when the wicked swallow up Those more righteous than they?

Habakkuk wanted the ungodly Israelites he saw around him to be punished (Habakkuk 1:1-4), but he was appalled that the Lord would use the wicked Chaldeans to do it. They were more ungodly than the wicked Israelites.

 
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Yes God sees sin. God does not linger or dwell on sin. God is offended by sin. Sin is an awful stench in Gods nostrils. I believe God has no desire to look upon or behold sin and that is why His wrath burns so hot toward sin.

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John146 said:
For instance, in the book of Jonah chapter 1:2, Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.

It seems their wickedness was brought before God by others; angels, watchmen, etc..

Habakkuk 1:13, Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

Can God look upon evil and iniquity? Scripture says no. God is too pure and holy. Did not God look away from His Son as He became sin for us on the cross? Do we really think God is looking down at all the pornography, rape, murders, and all the rest of the sinning on this earth? Something to think about.

I invite your thoughts...
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The Lord knows all, sees all, and can do all things. He has taught us to trust him in all things.
 
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hi John!

I think passages about God not seeing evil are a poetic way of saying things...

like saying God covers us with his feathers...




I've heard this idea that God turned away from Jesus on the cross, where does it come from?
 
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Proverbs 15:3
"The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good"

Amos 9:8
"Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD"

etc. etc.

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resurrection33 said:
The Lord knows all, sees all, and can do all things. He has taught us to trust him in all things.
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My thought process is with the question, how does God see everything? Does God Himself behold our sin, or does He have "eyes" all about watching. God is perfect in knowledge, but does that mean God looks at everything?
 
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Dan_473 said:
hi John!

I think passages about God not seeing evil are a poetic way of saying things...

like saying God covers us with his feathers...




I've heard this idea that God turned away from Jesus on the cross, where does it come from?
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And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, "E'lo-i, E'lo-i, la'ma sabach-tha'ni?" which means, "My God, my God, why hast thouforsaken me?" Mark 15:34 RSV

Yes, I think it was necessary for God to turn away from Jesus at the last moment. Jesus died for our sins. This is how it happened.
 
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John146 said:
My thought process is with the question, how does God see everything? Does God Himself behold our sin, or does He have "eyes" all about watching. God is perfect in knowledge, but does that mean God looks at everything?
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The Lord sees all things. He's everywhere, including in our minds.
 
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resurrection33 said:
The Lord sees all things. He's everywhere, including in our minds.
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"Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there;if I make my bed in the depths, you are there."
Psalm 139:7-8

God is omnipresent, yes : p

Id imagine that means there is nothing that He does not see or know.
 
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"Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?" declares the LORD. "Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?" declares the LORD. (Jer 23:24)



And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do. (Heb 4:13)
 
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resurrection33 said:
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, "E'lo-i, E'lo-i, la'ma sabach-tha'ni?" which means, "My God, my God, why hast thouforsaken me?" Mark 15:34 RSV

Yes, I think it was necessary for God to turn away from Jesus at the last moment. Jesus died for our sins. This is how it happened.
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yes, that's a possible way of looking at it...




I think another possibility is starting with

PSALMS 22:1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, from the words of my groaning?
PSALMS 22:2 O my God, I cry by day, but you do not answer, and by night, but I find no rest.


did God forsake the writer? well, no... but the writer sure felt like it...

Jesus in his humanity is saying, 'ya know how that guy felt a thousand years ago? that's how I feel now'
 
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John146 said:
For instance, in the book of Jonah chapter 1:2, Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.

It seems their wickedness was brought before God by others; angels, watchmen, etc..

Habakkuk 1:13, Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

Can God look upon evil and iniquity? Scripture says no. God is too pure and holy. Did not God look away from His Son as He became sin for us on the cross? Do we really think God is looking down at all the pornography, rape, murders, and all the rest of the sinning on this earth? Something to think about.

I invite your thoughts...
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Hi John146:

Yes God sees all...The Bible tells us He was there before he created this earth. As I have shown many time, after the flood, Jesus Christ is on about every page in the OT. He has a 100% Prophecy ratio. He is either good at picking what will be true or what will not be true or He already knows what is going on. He looked down upon Sodom and Gomorrah and saw all the sin....then destroyed it.

The donkey and Balaam shows us that dimensional travel is possible. It also shows us the power that He has (made the donkey talk). He tells us he has counted every hair on your head...........etc. etc. etc.

Genesis 1:2..."And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters". Do you NOT think he still does that.

The Holy Spirit is within me. He is my conscience for if he is not there, anything goes. We see that everyday in people that are not in Jesus Christ. Without God there are no Morals....This is a big argument among Athiest and agnostics

I could go on, on and on with supporting verses throughout the Bible on this subject. Enough Said.
 
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John146 said:
For instance, in the book of Jonah chapter 1:2, Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.

It seems their wickedness was brought before God by others; angels, watchmen, etc..

Habakkuk 1:13, Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

Can God look upon evil and iniquity? Scripture says no. God is too pure and holy. Did not God look away from His Son as He became sin for us on the cross? Do we really think God is looking down at all the pornography, rape, murders, and all the rest of the sinning on this earth? Something to think about.

I invite your thoughts...
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Figures of speech.
 
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Dan_473 said:
yes, that's a possible way of looking at it...




I think another possibility is starting with

PSALMS 22:1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, from the words of my groaning?
PSALMS 22:2 O my God, I cry by day, but you do not answer, and by night, but I find no rest.


did God forsake the writer? well, no... but the writer sure felt like it...

Jesus in his humanity is saying, 'ya know how that guy felt a thousand years ago? that's how I feel now'
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I agree with this view. Sin distorts our view of God and we think that He has forsaken us but He hasn't. We can see this truth in the Garden of Eden - God was the one who came to Adam and Eve that were hiding from Him. He knew what they did. He is God. He came and make skins for them to cover themselves.

I firmly believe that Jesus was crying out in His despair as the Son of Man - our representative and felt what we feel like when sin distorts our view of God.

Later on in Ps. 22 - It says that God did not in fact hide His face from Him.

Psalm 22:24 (NASB)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] For He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; Nor has He hidden His face from him; But when he cried to Him for help, He heard.

Paul also said that "God was "in Christ" reconciling the world to Himself - not counting their sins towards them."

I think that this could be one of those things that we have heard from our church teachings and thus they get engrained in our minds that God cannot look at sin and that God forsake Christ on the cross.

And everyone is allowed to have their own thoughts and beliefs about it too...:)

We don't have to call the other people "heretics or it is heresy" because they believe differently then "we" do as happens in many cases here in CC.
 
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John146 said:
For instance, in the book of Jonah chapter 1:2, Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.

It seems their wickedness was brought before God by others; angels, watchmen, etc..

Habakkuk 1:13, Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

Can God look upon evil and iniquity? Scripture says no. God is too pure and holy. Did not God look away from His Son as He became sin for us on the cross? Do we really think God is looking down at all the pornography, rape, murders, and all the rest of the sinning on this earth? Something to think about.

I invite your thoughts...
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Well this invites question how can a righteous God judge a person for their sins if He has not seen their sin ?
My opinion is that hyperbole is being used here to show how unacceptable sin is to God .
Blessings
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Yes, Even the dark corners of our hearts, thoughts. God is everywhere.
 
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Laish said:
Well this invites question how can a righteous God judge a person for their sins if He has not seen their sin ?
My opinion is that hyperbole is being used here to show how unacceptable sin is to God .
Blessings
Bill
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Cannot God know about our sin without having to actually see it? I know about all the Scriptures that's been posted, but is it God who is doing the looking upon sin or His watchman, His "eyes"?
 
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