Private Interpretation

[ZEEK]

2 Peter 1 19 And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

I have never been able to understand what Peter meant, so if it helps anyone, here is what (I think) he means here.

It is actually very simple.

All scriptural prophecy is given by God and is infallible. (Extra-biblical prophecies may fail). That means that God prophecies something that will come to pass, and it duly will come to pass.

It is then the fulfilment of the prophecy that is the interpretation of the prophecy.





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[Base12]

It is then the fulfilment of the prophecy that is the interpretation of the prophecy.

I like it, although I prefer the KJV version with 'Day Star' or , more specifically, Phosphorus...

Strong's: 5459 - Phósphoros
Definition: Light-bringing, the Morning Star

Strong's Greek: 5459. φωσφόρος (phósphoros) -- light-bringing, the morning star

Phosphorus, or the 'Light Bearer', is found in the "More Sure Word" of Prophecy.

What is the More Sure Word?

Luke 8:11
"Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God"

It is Seed or DNA.

In fact, your quote literally describes how DNA works...

...the fulfilment of the prophecy that is the interpretation of the prophecy.

Seed or DNA begins as a Book that God wrote, yet at the same time it is a Prophecy in that in foretells exactly how a Person is going to look like throughout their lifetime.

From the color of their hair, skin eyes, to how tall they will be etc.

With this in mind, we can decipher the passages... not with our own 'private interpretation'... but with the literal 'Word of God' living in our very own Cell Biology.

DNA does not lie.

DNA is not open to 'private interpretation'.

DNA is a Witness created by God Almighty.

Observe...

We begin with the Tabernacle in the Wilderness...

Now let's crack the code...

"as unto a light that shineth in a dark place"

This of course is the Candlestick.

As we can see in the diagrams above, the Candlestick is God's representation of Mitochondrial DNA.

Thus, it is the 'More Sure Word of Prophecy'.

Phosphorus or Day Star, as we saw earlier, is what makes up the Lamps of the DNA strand.

Phosphorus is Light.

Remember though... the Tabernacle was only a 'shadow' or an example of the Heavenly Tabernacle...

Hebrews 8:5
"Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount"

Perhaps Phosphorus will be exchanged for the White Stone with a 'New Name' (i.e. New Genetic Sequence) written on it...

Revelation 2:17
"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it"

Manna being representative of Deoxyribose.

Of course we are speaking of the Genetic 'Upgrade' we will receive...

1 Peter 1:23
"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever"

I'm definitely looking forward to that!

 

[Base12]

Oh I almost forgot...

Why does the Day Star/Phosphorus rise in our Hearts?

Because that is where the 'Fleshy Tables'... AKA DNA... is stored...

2 Corinthians 3:3
"Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart"

Not with ink... but with Spirit... i.e. Nitrogenous Bases.

Not with Stone but Flesh.

In other words, the Stone with Seven Eyes is Nitrogen (Element Seven), the main component of a Nucleobase...

Four Chambers of the Heart = Four Base Pairs...

Adenine
Guanine
Cytosine
Thymine

Note that the 'Heart' can also represent the Heart of the Cell, or Ark of the Covenant where RNA/DNA is stored...

 

[p_rehbein]

My belief only I suppose is that people who think they have full understanding of the Book of Revelation are only fooling themselves. As for the "purpose" of the Book of Revelation, that is for God to determine, not man. But, now, that may just be me.

 

[Zmouth]

2 Peter 1 19 And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

I have never been able to understand what Peter meant, so if it helps anyone, here is what (I think) he means here.

It is actually very simple.

All scriptural prophecy is given by God and is infallible. (Extra-biblical prophecies may fail). That means that God prophecies something that will come to pass, and it duly will come to pass.

It is then the fulfilment of the prophecy that is the interpretation of the prophecy.

Actually very simple as in thinking that it was Peter who was speaking or was it the Peter speaking the words of the LORD?, Or is it actually very simple to die under the laws of prophesy?

Deut 18:18-20

18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.


19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.


20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.


So would you share your testimony on your quickening, or acknowledge such in the LORD?

 

[ZEEK]

My belief only I suppose is that people who think they have full understanding of the Book of Revelation are only fooling themselves. As for the "purpose" of the Book of Revelation, that is for God to determine, not man. But, now, that may just be me.

You mean that Revelation has not been fulfilled yet?

 

[ZEEK]

What have the laws of prophesy got to do with Peter's words?

Actually very simple as in thinking that it was Peter who was speaking or was it the Peter speaking the words of the LORD?, Or is it actually very simple to die under the laws of prophesy?

Deut 18:18-20

18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.


19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.


20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.


So would you share your testimony on your quickening, or acknowledge such in the LORD?

 

[p_rehbein]

I mean that no man on this earth has a full and complete understanding of the Book of Revelation. At best, they can speculate, but no man on this earth can present a full and complete understanding of the Book of Revelation regardless of what they claim.

You mean that Revelation has not been fulfilled yet?

 

[ZEEK]

I mean that no man on this earth has a full and complete understanding of the Book of Revelation. At best, they can speculate, but no man on this earth can present a full and complete understanding of the Book of Revelation regardless of what they claim.

Who claims to have a full understanding out of interest?

Do you think anyone, e.g. a Church, could claim to have a full understanding of revelation?

I am wondering why God would tell us something that was wholly impenetrable.

I am happy to be shot down. Maybe I am completely wrong on Peter. You have got me thinking for sure.

 

[Zmouth]

My belief only I suppose is that people who think they have full understanding of the Book of Revelation are only fooling themselves. As for the "purpose" of the Book of Revelation, that is for God to determine, not man. But, now, that may just be me.

Give an honest man who can't read a Bible they will tell you they can't read.

And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.


Give a man who can read a Bible and if they didn't learn to read without a book could learn to read the Bible without the Word.


And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:

 

[Zmouth]

What have the laws of prophesy got to do with Peter's words?

It is a book of principles

 

[ZEEK]

Yes but there is no false prophecy in the Bible thank God

 

[ZEEK]

That is an amazing scripture from Isaiah on the destruction of jerusalem. Thanks z

 

[Zmouth]

Yes but there is no false prophecy in the Bible thank God

Ok kewl ......

 

[p_rehbein]

I am not "shooting you down." I simply made the comment that no man can have a full and complete understanding of the Book of Revelation. At best, man can only speculate as to the full and complete meaning. Never said you couldn't discuss it, or any such. Simply made the statement. And, there have been some who come here who CLAIM they are Prophets of God AND DO HAVE complete understanding of Revelation. But, they don't generally stay too long.

I believe ANY thread discussing Revelation should include the truth, and the truth is that no man has full and complete understanding of the Book of Revelation. Is that such a horrible thing to expect?

Who claims to have a full understanding out of interest?

Do you think anyone, e.g. a Church, could claim to have a full understanding of revelation?

I am wondering why God would tell us something that was wholly impenetrable.

I am happy to be shot down. Maybe I am completely wrong on Peter. You have got me thinking for sure.

 

[ZEEK]

No. I don't mind being shot down. It leads to better understanding.

 

[trofimus]

2 Peter 1 19 And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

I have never been able to understand what Peter meant, so if it helps anyone, here is what (I think) he means here.

It is actually very simple.

All scriptural prophecy is given by God and is infallible. (Extra-biblical prophecies may fail). That means that God prophecies something that will come to pass, and it duly will come to pass.

It is then the fulfilment of the prophecy that is the interpretation of the prophecy.





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I think that "that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation" in the context means just that prophecies are from God, not the inventions of men.

NIV puts it nicely:

"Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation of things." (NIV)

 

[ZEEK]

Hi Trofimus,

'Epilysis' means unloosening / interpretation.

It sounds as if it means interpretation rather than invention.

 

[Ariel82]

2 Peter 1 19 And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

I have never been able to understand what Peter meant, so if it helps anyone, here is what (I think) he means here.

It is actually very simple.

All scriptural prophecy is given by God and is infallible. (Extra-biblical prophecies may fail). That means that God prophecies something that will come to pass, and it duly will come to pass.

It is then the fulfilment of the prophecy that is the interpretation of the prophecy.





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I didn't read the rest of the thread, but would also add that the Holy Spirit is in all God's children and can reveal to all the meaning of prophecy...no pet interpreter or special prophet needed, just the Holy Spirit and the body of believers to stand in agreement about what Gods message really is and how the prophecies have been fulfilled.

 

[trofimus]

Hi Trofimus,

'Epilysis' means unloosening / interpretation.

It sounds as if it means interpretation rather than invention.

Hi,

yeah, I know. But the prophet also had to interpret/describe/explain what has happened to him so that he could write it down or say another one to write it down.

Also, look at the word "ginetai":

πᾶσα προφητεία γραφῆς ἰδίας ἐπιλύσεως οὐ γίνεται.
All prophetical scriptures had not originated [from] own interpretation.

- thats why I think its about the origin of the prophecy, not about the reader of the prophecy.