The tares (weeds) are born-again, but are going to hell

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 2 related questions would be such and so ...

Can a tare/weed who has been planted by Satan into God's Kingdom
CHANGE to the point where he/she becomes wheat?

Is wheat (planted by Jesus into God's Kingdom) there ...
because he/she was elected/chosen before the foundation of the world?
and/or ...
because he/she chose to obey Jesus' commands (and didn't ignore them)?
 
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ZacharyB said:
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Another question would be such and so ...

Can a tare/weed who has been planted by Satan into God's Kingdom
CHANGE to the point where he/she becomes wheat?
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No satan is no farmer he only knows of destroying...
 
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BeyondET said:
No Satan is no farmer He only knows of destroying...
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No, believers can change (undo) that which Satan has done to them.
I'm talking in general ... I'm not speaking to the question in question.
 
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ZacharyB said:
No believers can change (undo) that which Satan has done to them.
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Yes indeed but satan can't plant tares or wheat in Gods Kingdom...
 
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ZacharyB

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Oh my! You really have already set yourself up as judge and jury.
I was unaware that God set you apart to judge according to your personal-preference-doctrine.
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Quoting NT verses serves to set myself up as judge and jury?
Does this apply to pastors and evangelists, or just to me?
 
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Wording is everything Gods kingdom is not of this world...
 
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breno785au said:
Zach, Why do you constantly like posting about Christians going to hell?
Is this all you think about?
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This is typical of the idiocy I nave to deal with.

Why did God constantly like posting about Christians going to hell?
Is this all He thinks about?

Yes, of course it is ... His many warnings prove how much He cares for His created beings.

Did thouest knowest that Jesus talked more about Hell than He did about Heaven?
In the 4 Gospels.
 
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If this were possible that tares could be born again,
then it would be what Paul called false brethren.
Those who tried to bring others back into bondage through laws.
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A very interesting thought which needs to be considered ... thanks!
 
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Blain said:
Your title shows your lack of understanding in this matter, the weeds are not born again ...
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Can you show from the OP verses why tares are not born-again?

Because if you can, I'll apologize and scrap the whole idea.
 
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ZacharyB said:
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 2 related questions would be such and so ...

A) Can a tare/weed who has been planted by Satan into God's Kingdom
CHANGE to the point where he/she becomes wheat?

B) Is wheat (planted by Jesus into God's Kingdom) there ...
1) because he/she was elected/chosen before the foundation of the world?
and/or ...
2) because he/she chose to obey Jesus' commands (and didn't ignore them)?
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(and because he/she chose to NOT be a habitual unrepentant sinner?)
 
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BeyondET said:
Good post if could add one thing I'd say that Love is also forgiving when others make mistakes rather it be of scripture knowledge or not.. If I'm wrong about something and I'm aware of it then I will humble myself and say I'm wrong your correct... Sometimes it may take a few hours, days or more to come to my senses..
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Love comes in many forms and humbleness is one of them:)
 
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ZacharyB said:
Can you show from the OP verses why tares are not born-again?

Because if you can, I'll apologize and scrap the whole idea.
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With wheat you can do and make many things you can make bread you can us it for grains for feeding animals you can do many things with wheat but tell me what can you do with tares? and what does the bible say happens to tares? you don't send a born again person into the fire.
 
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Believe me, I've seen it for years on Christian forums ...
those who can't successfully deal with the issues, attack people.
 
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Blain said:
With wheat you can do and make many things you can make bread you can us it for grains for feeding animals you can do many things with wheat but tell me what can you do with tares? and what does the bible say happens to tares? you don't send a born again person into the fire.
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Thanks for explaining your position by quoting the NT Scriptures.
 
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ZacharyB said:
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Believe me, I've seen it for years on Christian forums ...
those who can't successfully deal with the issues, attack people.
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Who is attacking?
 
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ZacharyB said:
This is typical of the idiocy I nave to deal with.

Why did God constantly like posting about Christians going to hell?
Is this all He thinks about?

Yes, of course it is ... His many warnings prove how much He cares for His created beings.

Did thouest knowest that Jesus talked more about Hell than He did about Heaven?
In the 4 Gospels.
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There will be no Christians in Hell, only unbelievers.
 
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Persuaded said:
There will be no Christians in Hell, only unbelievers.
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You're persuaded ... congratulations!
All of the non-Christian cults are also persuaded of their positions.
Not to mention all of the other major religions.

Human beings are total and complete spiritual idiots!
Only the Holy Spirit can undo this horrible condition.
 
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ZacharyB said:
You're persuaded ... congratulations!
All of the non-Christian cults are also persuaded of their positions.
Not to mention all of the other major religions.
Human beings are total and complete spiritual idiots!
Only the Holy Spirit can undo this horrible condition.
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I don't appreciate you calling people spiritual idiots and btw persuaded is correct I know from experience I have been to hell before the actual literal place and I saw no believers no children of God no Christians in that place.

You are the only person I see attacking in this thread, if you want to discuss and debate that is fine but please do so in a mature calm and Christ like manner name calling and mocking is not something that shows signs of a believer
 
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Blain said:
I don't appreciate you calling people spiritual idiots
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You don't appreciate the Truth.

Do you appreciate "The Hard Sayings of Jesus" in the 4 Gospels?

I'm guessing you don't appreciate those Truths either.
 
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ZacharyB said:
You're persuaded ... congratulations!
All of the non-Christian cults are also persuaded of their positions.
Not to mention all of the other major religions.

Human beings are total and complete spiritual idiots!
Only the Holy Spirit can undo this horrible condition.
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So you are saying that spiritual growth by the grace of God for a human being is impossible?
 
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