How much can we dismiss?

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RickyZ

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So the anti-tongues crowd (and by association the whole cessationist thing) won me over. They convinced me that such things have ceased and are not for us today. So, in order to no longer be confused about it, I started Xing out all the passages about the gifts that no longer apply.

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That got me thinking... perhaps I've been wrong in other things. Tribulation and the rapture have always been hotly debated, so I looked at that again and boy did the 70 ad group win me over on that one! They are right, all that went down in the first century and we no longer need to worry about it. So I started Xing out those scriptures too, again just so I wouldn't be confused by them anymore. I mean, why confuse the facts with outdated information?

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Daniel and especially Revelation are long books. Xing things out was getting tedious so I just ripped those pages out altogether. I mean, we don't need them anymore and that's pretty much all they are.

It's been kinda fun, actually, it feels like cleaning the fridge of expired milk cartons.


I shared this a bit in the Revelation thread, then some guy asked why I don't just then throw the whole book out and go find a new one.

And I think that's a good question. As I sit here with red ink on my fingers and loosed pages on the floor, I'm starting to wonder -
just how much can we dismiss before the whole story is discredited?
 
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Tintin

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Good exercise, brother. But concerning the Rapture, that doctrine never existed until about 200 years ago. So that can go.
 
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HisHolly

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Dynamite !!
 
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HisHolly

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It's so tragic that it treated as history and not the Living Word that it is.. All of it applies..
 
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HisHolly

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What I want to know is where are the instructions on how to conduct ourselves if all ceased and or is irrelevant.... We were never given instructions on how to transition... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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What I want to know is where are the instructions on how to conduct ourselves if all ceased and or is irrelevant.... We were never given instructions on how to transition... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I think some people believe God just forgot to put that part in the book.
 

Joidevivre

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I really hope you leave in Genesis. :rolleyes:
 
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So the anti-tongues crowd (and by association the whole cessationist thing) won me over. They convinced me that such things have ceased and are not for us today. So, in order to no longer be confused about it, I started Xing out all the passages about the gifts that no longer apply.



That got me thinking... perhaps I've been wrong in other things. Tribulation and the rapture have always been hotly debated, so I looked at that again and boy did the 70 ad group win me over on that one! They are right, all that went down in the first century and we no longer need to worry about it. So I started Xing out those scriptures too, again just so I wouldn't be confused by them anymore. I mean, why confuse the facts with outdated information?



Daniel and especially Revelation are long books. Xing things out was getting tedious so I just ripped those pages out altogether. I mean, we don't need them anymore and that's pretty much all they are.

It's been kinda fun, actually, it feels like cleaning the fridge of expired milk cartons.


I shared this a bit in the Revelation thread, then some guy asked why I don't just then throw the whole book out and go find a new one.

And I think that's a good question. As I sit here with red ink on my fingers and loosed pages on the floor, I'm starting to wonder -
just how much can we dismiss before the whole story is discredited?
In the book of Acts, speaking in tongues had a purpose. That purpose was to spread the gospel to those who spoke in different languages than what the disciples spoke. That could still happen today.

But that doesn’t seem to me to be what is happening. Instead, people are uttering incomprehensible speech in church, which nobody understands, and they are calling that “tongues.” I don’t think it is. This is what Paul said:

[27] If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn; and let one interpret.
[28] But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silence in church and speak to himself and to God. 1 Cor 14:27-28 RSV
 
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When did it become our place to assume the right to "dismiss" how another person worships God?
 
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When did it become our place to assume the right to "dismiss" how another person worships God?
I think the problem is when church leaders tell the congregation that if they don't speak in tongues, then they are inferior to those that do. I have heard of this happening.
 
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Miri

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You forgot to cross out all the grace passages as well.
Here I will post one so you can cross it out. :p


Ephesians 2:8,10 NKJV
[8] For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves;
it is the gift of God, [10] For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for
good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.



(PS your funny)
 
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BeyondET

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The last two verses in 1 Cor. 14 says a lot...


Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues.

But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way.
 
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So the anti-tongues crowd (and by association the whole cessationist thing) won me over. They convinced me that such things have ceased and are not for us today. So, in order to no longer be confused about it, I started Xing out all the passages about the gifts that no longer apply.

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That got me thinking... perhaps I've been wrong in other things. Tribulation and the rapture have always been hotly debated, so I looked at that again and boy did the 70 ad group win me over on that one! They are right, all that went down in the first century and we no longer need to worry about it. So I started Xing out those scriptures too, again just so I wouldn't be confused by them anymore. I mean, why confuse the facts with outdated information?

View attachment 163374

Daniel and especially Revelation are long books. Xing things out was getting tedious so I just ripped those pages out altogether. I mean, we don't need them anymore and that's pretty much all they are.

It's been kinda fun, actually, it feels like cleaning the fridge of expired milk cartons.


I shared this a bit in the Revelation thread, then some guy asked why I don't just then throw the whole book out and go find a new one.

And I think that's a good question. As I sit here with red ink on my fingers and loosed pages on the floor, I'm starting to wonder -
just how much can we dismiss before the whole story is discredited?
If your entire theology is based on gifts and when Jesus is returning, it will do you good to X it all out and get back to the reality that the Bible is a book about God and a place where we can find out what he wants.

Considering most of BDF is talking about fringe stuff, a VERY good idea! (Tongues? Christmas trees? Creation Science? Rapture? Really?
:confused:)
 
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I think the problem is when church leaders tell the congregation that if they don't speak in tongues, then they are inferior to those that do. I have heard of this happening.
You have heard "OF" this? When have you actually "heard" it spoken from a pulpit?
 
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So the anti-tongues crowd (and by association the whole cessationist thing) won me over. They convinced me that such things have ceased and are not for us today. So, in order to no longer be confused about it, I started Xing out all the passages about the gifts that no longer apply.

View attachment 163373

That got me thinking... perhaps I've been wrong in other things. Tribulation and the rapture have always been hotly debated, so I looked at that again and boy did the 70 ad group win me over on that one! They are right, all that went down in the first century and we no longer need to worry about it. So I started Xing out those scriptures too, again just so I wouldn't be confused by them anymore. I mean, why confuse the facts with outdated information?

View attachment 163374

Daniel and especially Revelation are long books. Xing things out was getting tedious so I just ripped those pages out altogether. I mean, we don't need them anymore and that's pretty much all they are.

It's been kinda fun, actually, it feels like cleaning the fridge of expired milk cartons.


I shared this a bit in the Revelation thread, then some guy asked why I don't just then throw the whole book out and go find a new one.

And I think that's a good question. As I sit here with red ink on my fingers and loosed pages on the floor, I'm starting to wonder -
just how much can we dismiss before the whole story is discredited?
to Know what doesnt apply we have to look at what the word says doesnt apply rather than figure out what we think, we need to first forget our conclusions and let the word conclude, and my own answer to your final queston is Not a single worrd can we omit.
 
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this would be a hard X for us:

REV. 22:16.
I Jesus have sent Mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
I Am The Root and The Offspring of David, and The Bright and Morning Star.
 

Bladerunner

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When did it become our place to assume the right to "dismiss" how another person worships God?

It is the right of the PC, liberal, social media, socialist group that believes in only ME,ME, ME, no morals, No God, etc and they arrogantly tell us how to live and worship. It is everywhere.