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JaumeJ

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When we come to the High Priest for Mediation and Propitiation of our sins, we are become fellow heirs with Israel, therefore we bcome Israel

This Israel is the eternal, and its capital is New Jerusalem.

It is beautiful to know all we who believe Jesus christ are by translation Israel, also by translation Judah, and alwo by translation Hebrews. I could repeat what all of this means but I do believe any who are truly intrigued by this should study the etymologies of each of the words for himself. Understanding in the Holy Spirit is its own reward.

Praise Jesus Christ, amen.
 
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When we come to the High Priest for Mediation and Propitiation of our sins, we are become fellow heirs with Israel, therefore we bcome Israel
sounds good to me.............. i still dont go around calling myself israelite or jew though............ atleast not yet hahaha
 
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yes, Israel is and always will be Jesus' divine choice, first and foremost -
if we don't believe Him and His Words, then we will just have to suffer the consequences...

READ and STUDY THE OT, IT IS ALL THERE, WRITTEN IN HIS LOVE FOR US, IN HIS HOLY WORD!!!
It is ALL ONE BOOK!
 

Desertsrose

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Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, may they proper who love you.
 

wolfwint

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The state of Israel is not the people of God.

But it is one of the most developed countries in the middle East dealing with terrorists, so you can support it.
You are really Shure? They dideal not accept Jesus as their Messajah thats right. But for Shure they are God's Volk. Study their history! All the time long God had protected them. I would not be count as their enemy! This is a very special folk! Again thats means not they are doing everything right. But to judge is God's thing!
 

JaumeJ

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Always keep in min, just like there are two Jerusalems, there are two Israels. Equally important it is paramount to study the characteristics of both before deciding to which is your allegiance..

I speak in terms of the two Israels, not of people for we are to love allpeoples the same,just as our Father does.
 

JaumeJ

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Keep in mind, like just about all names in the Word, they are made up of Hebrew words put together, but instead of tranlating them to the languages of todays¡s Bibles, the names are transliterated. An example or two:

Bethleham from the Hebrew words beit and lechem or house and bread. Who is the Bread from Heaven? Oh, righyt, Jesus Christ Wo was born in the "House of Bread.2

Adam which has come to mean Man or mankind. It also is the root for dam, blood, and also dam, red. Dam dam means bright ried. Adam also means dust.....depending on its usage.

So Jesus Christ, the Son of Man was the Son of Adam, and if you care to, the Son of earth. You do the meditating.

It is all quite facinating emphasizing nothing is wasted in the WÇord of God, halleluyah, amen.


sounds good to me.............. i still dont go around calling myself israelite or jew though............ atleast not yet hahaha
 

Katy-follower

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And that is enough to show your true colours, you want to see all Jews swept into the sea and whole of Israel turned to dust. In other words you support Jewish Genocide.
This sounds a lot like the christian-palestinianism movement, which is anti-semitic. Basically it demonizes Israel.

“All the basic elements of a Christian Zionist eschatology are reversed, so that the Bible is seen to be Christian, not Jewish, the land of the Bible is Palestine not Israel, the Son of God is a Palestinian not a Jew, the Holocaust is resented not remembered, 1948 is a catastrophe not a miracle, the Jewish people are illegal occupiers, and Biblical prophecy is a moral manifesto and not a signpost to the Second Coming”

“...Their opposition to Israel and her Christian allies is expressed in their outspoken support of the Palestinian agenda.”

I don't know a lot about the movement, but it's connected with replacement theology and preterism.

Might be worth looking into as sadly it seems to be growing in the "christian" world.
 
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OneFaith

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Stand with the Lord (Roman 11:1-5)---the salvation of Israel---God has not cast His people away...
I'm going to copy and paste what I said in "Who is Israel today"...

Physical Israelites today are not God's people- unless they got baptized into Christ like everyone else.

Three promises were given to Abraham- one of them was "all nations on earth will be blessed through you". This is because Jesus would come through his family tree- which would lead to Abraham being the father of many peoples (nations).

In John chapter 1 it says that Jesus came to His own people, but His own people would not receive Him. So He took away their right to be God's people by default. From that point on, you could no longer be God's people by simply being a physical Israelite. "Not by natural descent, or a husband's will (physically), but born of God (spiritually).

He says that physical Israelites can be grafted back into the vine, just as Gentiles are grafted into the vine (baptism). And together we are all spiritual Israel in Christ. Physicality no longer means anything. "Here there are no Greek (Gentile) or Jew (Israelite), male or female, slave or freeman, but Christ is in all such persons.

When the Bible speaks of Israel now, such as in Revelation, it is speaking of spiritual Israel. God's people are the physical Israelites from the Old Testament tribes of Israel (Jacob)- which are the 144,000, and of those who washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb (baptism)- no matter what physicality they had- these are the great multitude that could not be numbered.
 

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So what is the heavenly Jerusalem that symbolically comes down from heaven in Revelation? It's the Church. Both Jew and gentile established the Church in the 1st century that became the new Israel of the Spirit. The Israel of the "flesh" has come to an end. Modern day Israel has nothing to do with Bible prophecy and you need to get your Eschatology right to see this. God did not abandon His people according to Romans 11. Their was a remnant of faithful Jews in the 1st century that regathered and restored the Israel of the Spirit after the great Tribulation of 70 AD. It's history now. Don't expect modern day Jews to gather unto Christ. It will be a miraculous if that happens.
Then you Maby will see in Future some miracles :)
 

wolfwint

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Your line of thinking is based on ignorance on who the Semetic people are. 90% of Israelis are of Ashenazis Khazars from eastern Europe and have no Semetic ancestry. The Palestinians are the true Semetic people and countless numbers of them have been persecuted and killed by the Israelis who have deceived people like you into thinking that they are a "free nation". It's truly unbelievable that you would support a country with the blood of countless Palestinian men, women and children on its hands. You have clearly not learnt how to be a Christian. Have you ever spoken to any Palestinians who say they are living in an apartheid state, and you've got the audacity to say that "Israel is the freest in the region". Where have you been? Every Christian should be supporting the the persecuted Palestinians, or didn't you know that throughout history Christians have been persecuted. Read a history book you ignoramus and take your anti Christian views elsewhere. And as for Christ's return, it should be the duty of every Christian on earth to keep Jesus away from this wicked nation of Israel. They follow the Babylonian Talmud in "Israel". Go and find out for yourself what they say about Jesus in the Talmud. Both the Talmud and your views on Israel are pure garbage.
If you are a Christian and a child of God, then I must tell you, that you dont know your heavenly father!
 
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If the Palestinians are the ones favored by God then why does He speak out against them,which this is a prophesy concerning now,and in the future,for it will be the time that the world will come together,and try to solve their problems,and rebel against God,and the saints gathered unto Christ,and the world will attack Israel,and God saves them,and defeats the world.

Joe 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,
Joe 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
Joe 3:4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;
Joe 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
Joe 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
Joe 3:11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down(all the saints), O LORD.
Joe 3:12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
Joe 3:13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.
Joe 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
Joe 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
Joe 3:16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.

Multitudes in the valley of decision,for what side will be people take,Jews,or Palestinians.

Zec 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

The whole earth shall be gathered against Jerusalem,the Jews,and whoever burdens themselves with it shall be cut in pieces.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Zec 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

Half the city shall go in to captivity,and half shall be saved.The man of sin will establish a peace treaty with Israel,and bring peace to the Middle East,and the Jews will split Jerusalem with the Palestinians,and at the battle of Armageddon the world will run through the Palestinian side like a bulldozer,and when they get to the Jews side will be stopped by God,and He will save the Jews,and defeat the world.

For Israel is blinded in part,they accept the Old Testament,but do not accept the New Testament,for the majority of them,until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in,when salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,and so all Israel shall be saved,for God will make a full end of all nations where He scattered the Jews,but will not make a full end of Israel,but she will not be wholly unpunished.

God is against the Palestians,and anyone that burdens themselves with Jerusalem in the future,will be cut in pieces,though all the earth be gathered against her.

God will put it back on the heads of the Palestinians for messing with His people.Proclaim this among the Gentiles,let's go to war,multitudes,multitudes,in the valley of decision,for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.

What side will people take,the Jews,or the Palestinians.

Also God said He would bring the Jews back to thier land out of the nations they were scattered,but this is not true with the Palestinians.
 
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