Revelation And Israel

[Spurgeoncy]

Unless Revelation quotes a particular old testament passage, then we can safely expect that passage to be no more of any specific prophetic relevance.

So, unless it can be corroborated in Revelation, no prophecy about Israel can be projected into the future.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Unless Revelation quotes a particular old testament passage, then we can safely expect that passage to be no more of any specific prophetic relevance.

So, unless it can be corroborated in Revelation, no prophecy about Israel can be projected into the future.

Hello Spurgeoncy,

So, are you saying that Israel is not mentioned in the book of Revelation?

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Unless Revelation quotes a particular old testament passage, then we can safely expect that passage to be no more of any specific prophetic relevance.

So, unless it can be corroborated in Revelation, no prophecy about Israel can be projected into the future.

Much of the language and wording in the book of Revelation is drawn from several books in the OT, but only by the direction of the Holy Spirit can one even begin to discern the symbolic meaning of it as it pertains to end events and prophecy by comparing spiritual things with spiritual. And God choosing for himself a peculiar people, a holy priesthood and Nation called Israel is shown all through out the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation.

God said He would make a full end of all the Gentile nations, but He would not make a full end of Israel. So Israel has been, and even still now is in future prophecy.

 

[posthuman]

unless it can be corroborated in Revelation, no prophecy about Israel can be projected into the future.

why not . . . ?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Unless Revelation quotes a particular old testament passage, then we can safely expect that passage to be no more of any specific prophetic relevance.

So, unless it can be corroborated in Revelation, no prophecy about Israel can be projected into the future.

lol.. You know whats funny. Rev and daniel have alot of parts which intersect, Which would mean Israel is in context. Also we have the issue with the woman who gave birth to Christ who is protected. While satan goes after her offspring (the church)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

why not . . . ?

because she said so??

 

[Spurgeoncy]

Hello Spurgeoncy,

So, are you saying that Israel is not mentioned in the book of Revelation?

I am just thinking that if Revelation is to show what is to come, then any mention of a future for earthly Jerusalem and land will
be shown in Revelation.

When I read prophecies about Israel etc in the prophets, i am normally seeing contemporaneous fulfillments.

 

[Ahwatukee]

I am just thinking that if Revelation is to show what is to come, then any mention of a future for earthly Jerusalem and land will
be shown in Revelation.

When I read prophecies about Israel etc in the prophets, i am normally seeing contemporaneous fulfillments.

Have you read Rev.12 regarding God's provision and care for Israel during that last 3 1/2 years from the setting up of the abomination?

 

[Spurgeoncy]

12 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Are you are saying that this is modern day Israel?

 

[Ahwatukee]

12 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Are you are saying that this is modern day Israel?

"Then he had another dream, and he told it to his brothers. “Listen,” he said, “I had another dream, and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me.”

When he told his father as well as his brothers, his father rebuked him and said, “What is this dream you had? Will your mother and I and your brothers actually come and bow down to the ground before you?” (Gen.37:9-10)

Sun = Jacob

Moon = Wife/wives

Eleven Stars = Eleven son's of Jacob, with Joseph be the twelfth

The woman clothed with the sun, the moon under her feet and wearing a crown of twelve stars = Israel

 

[Bladerunner]

Unless Revelation quotes a particular old testament passage, then we can safely expect that passage to be no more of any specific prophetic relevance.

So, unless it can be corroborated in Revelation, no prophecy about Israel can be projected into the future.

Hello....there are 404 verses in Revelation and around 800 references to the OT.

 

[Spurgeoncy]

Hello....there are 404 verses in Revelation and around 800 references to the OT.

What are they?

 

[Bladerunner]

What are they?

you don't know.....??????// I would suggest that you start reading the Bible instead of listening to others who do not know.

Having said that,,,,here is a URL that will give you Daniel 7 & Rev 17 all on one page.... compare them and start counting... It will be a good beginning.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+7,Revelation+17&version=KJV

 

[psalm6819]

Spurgeoncy has no interest in Bible prophecy

this thread is simply another platform in which to bash Israel and the Jewish people

 

[88]

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem---- may her enemies perish (of course--- salvation is my first choice)

 

[Spurgeoncy]

Lie.

Try saying something as if you are accountable for it, rather than as a malevolent fly on the wall.

Spurgeoncy has no interest in Bible prophecy

this thread is simply another platform in which to bash Israel and the Jewish people

 

[Spurgeoncy]

I know how you guys work Psalm6819, I've had my eye on you for a while.

You make outrageous statements, the more you want to drown out someone, the more outrageous you get.

I suspect your ultimate goal is to say something so unpleasant and objectionable that the person defamed reacts
and then gets banned.

It is not my site to oversee, so I cannot influence the kind of person allowed on here. The many times I have tried to report someone the system fails. Why the site owners are so complicit with your type i have no idea, by they are, wittingly or not.

 

[Dino246]

Lie.

Try saying something as if you are accountable for it, rather than as a malevolent fly on the wall.

"Lie": a conscious and intentional misrepresentation (unlikely, in this case).

"Error": an unconscious or unintentional misrepresentation (being wrong about someone else doesn't make one a liar).

Try backing off from your militancy and having a reasonable discussion. If you claim to be a Christian (I don't know if you do) then turn the other cheek to insults, and respond with truth, grace, and forgiveness.

 

[Spurgeoncy]

lol. This is the sort of idiocy, defining the most simple terms in the English language, that makes any meaningful discussion impossible Dino.

It is a shame that the site has reached that point where it will probably implode soon, I've seen it before.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

lol. This is the sort of idiocy, defining the most simple terms in the English language, that makes any meaningful discussion impossible Dino.

It is a shame that the site has reached that point where it will probably implode soon, I've seen it before.

this is the type of language and attitude that turns people off. and gets people banned.

I have seen it before.