The big bang the god particle and the universe
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but what's the mass of the Higgs Boson?
God only knows?
God only knows?
((some people think there may be more than one type))
which is equivalent to about 2 x 10[SUP]-22[/SUP] grams.
https://home.cern/topics/higgs-boson
A couple nights ago I recalled an old question I heard when i was younger, which came first the chicken or the egg? I then recalled an old phrase I heard a while back saying how the universe exists because it needed to exist and in watching an episode of family guy when stewie from family guy is crossing dimensions with brain they come into an emtpy one and the transporter that took them back home apparently was the big bang and stewie tried to explain to brian that the universe created stewie so he in turn could create it saying how because it needed to be created it created him to create it.
Of course when brain was vastly confused by this and questioned it stewie became very agitated. But my reasoning with the what came first the chicken or the egg is the chicken needed to be created so the universe created the egg because it knew I wanted my omelette ;b bet you guys thought I was going somewhere else with that huh?
Of course when brain was vastly confused by this and questioned it stewie became very agitated. But my reasoning with the what came first the chicken or the egg is the chicken needed to be created so the universe created the egg because it knew I wanted my omelette ;b bet you guys thought I was going somewhere else with that huh?
Personally I like mine to have with cheese bacon and sausage black olives and bits of hash browns but hey if the universe created the chicken so I could have my omelette it also made the chicken to give you yours as I highly doubt the universe plays favorites you would need to have an actual thought process to do that.
Are you really that ignorant?
So let's Genesis 2:7, And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
So you really think that Jesus gathered some dust up and just blew some air into the dust and it became a living soul? I mean it definitely inspired a great song. but you can't make even make human corpse much less living body with just those two states of matter, Solid and Gas.
So I will show you how that parable is relative by your response to the question.
So can how it is possible that the LORD made man from just two states of of non living matter, Solid and Gas when even scientists know it would at least take three states of matter, and they don't even believe in the LORD. And by the way even with the three states of matter all you produce is a corpse, or rather a body of non living matter.
So here's your opportunity, cause the 31st I am off house arrest for manipulating the weather and I really don't like being called ignorant because of people like you that play with the Bible like some little lord font leroy, I prefer to be recognized for my own ignorance, but I will deal with it if you at least sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you :1 Peter 3:1
So instead of trying explain how mass was form, just explain why you believe Genesis 2:7 is true?
So here is the parable again...
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Luke 6:46
47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.
Luke 6:46-49
So let's Genesis 2:7, And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
So you really think that Jesus gathered some dust up and just blew some air into the dust and it became a living soul? I mean it definitely inspired a great song. but you can't make even make human corpse much less living body with just those two states of matter, Solid and Gas.
So I will show you how that parable is relative by your response to the question.
So can how it is possible that the LORD made man from just two states of of non living matter, Solid and Gas when even scientists know it would at least take three states of matter, and they don't even believe in the LORD. And by the way even with the three states of matter all you produce is a corpse, or rather a body of non living matter.
So here's your opportunity, cause the 31st I am off house arrest for manipulating the weather and I really don't like being called ignorant because of people like you that play with the Bible like some little lord font leroy, I prefer to be recognized for my own ignorance, but I will deal with it if you at least sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you :1 Peter 3:1
So instead of trying explain how mass was form, just explain why you believe Genesis 2:7 is true?
So here is the parable again...
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Luke 6:46
47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.
Luke 6:46-49
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So my question is to the o.p
If no one was around when the Lord created the universe how do we know it made a noise?
And if it did how do we know it was bang? It could of been whoooop. Whoops tinkle ring ring plop. Or tick tick blam balm tinker tink. Or poof thaaafttoom boof boof gong.
To many unknowns to really come to a conclusion.......just saying...
If no one was around when the Lord created the universe how do we know it made a noise?
And if it did how do we know it was bang? It could of been whoooop. Whoops tinkle ring ring plop. Or tick tick blam balm tinker tink. Or poof thaaafttoom boof boof gong.
To many unknowns to really come to a conclusion.......just saying...
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Zmouth, judging by your posts you wouldn't seem to know how to read the Bible yourself. So please don't call me ignorant. There's no point replying to your nonsensical posts. There's nothing to discuss. The Bible doesn't contain every detail of Creation, but it tells us enough to know the Greater Picture of the Gospel. Try learning biblical hermeneutics sometime.
You may be right, God made what is seen out of what is not seen. Hebrews 11:3 [FONT="]By faith we understand that the universe was formed at [/FONT]God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
This indicates that it was made out of what was invisible and another verse, I can't find now, tells us that what is visible doesn't last, but what is not visible lasts forever.
This indicates that it was made out of what was invisible and another verse, I can't find now, tells us that what is visible doesn't last, but what is not visible lasts forever.
So my question is to the o.p
If no one was around when the Lord created the universe how do we know it made a noise?
And if it did how do we know it was bang? It could of been whoooop. Whoops tinkle ring ring plop. Or tick tick blam balm tinker tink. Or poof thaaafttoom boof boof gong.
To many unknowns to really come to a conclusion.......just saying...
If no one was around when the Lord created the universe how do we know it made a noise?
And if it did how do we know it was bang? It could of been whoooop. Whoops tinkle ring ring plop. Or tick tick blam balm tinker tink. Or poof thaaafttoom boof boof gong.
To many unknowns to really come to a conclusion.......just saying...
can you see an oxygen molecule, yea and nah really because we can't see air but it can be seen.
So does that mean air will last for ever, or will only those elements seen on the periodic table be the only things which form the things seed that will last forever? So now you have these elements which they say can neither be created nor destroyed but can only change its physical state. Yet all the elements are naturally inanimate, having a neutral charge which has neither a positive or negative charge.
So is that which is not visible which lasts forever?
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Peter 3:10
Anyway thank you for your comments.
So does that mean air will last for ever, or will only those elements seen on the periodic table be the only things which form the things seed that will last forever? So now you have these elements which they say can neither be created nor destroyed but can only change its physical state. Yet all the elements are naturally inanimate, having a neutral charge which has neither a positive or negative charge.
So is that which is not visible which lasts forever?
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Peter 3:10
Anyway thank you for your comments.
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It's interesting, there are over 300 flood legends from every habitable content on earth, many of which share common details. The ancient Chinese legend of Nohu for example describes how 8 people survived a flood that covered every mountain on earth. Likewise the aborigines have similar stories which I've taught this at school.
Only since the 1800's when Charles Lisle popularised his geologic column theory based on uniformitarianism have we had huge ages thinking. Before that the geologists of the world were catastrophists, they interpreted much of geology through the lens of a flood. Charles' goal was to free science from Moses, but the flood best fits the historical facts of eye witness accounts passed down across cultures spanning the globe.
Even the Chinese symbol for boat literally translates 'vessel of 8 people' - noting Noah, his wife, 3 sons and their wives were the only survivors. The bible describes a single land mass pre-flood, heavily vegetated - hence the masses of coal we find, there were no deserts, but there were rivers and seas.
I don't know any creationist who believes penguins crossed deserts, still I have met people who believe that our greatest ancestors were primordial soup. Evolution teaches that microbes became microbiologists. It's the frog becoming a prince story, but add millions of years and slow adaptation crossing and over coming all known genus breeding barriers.
It's amazing but of no surprise how well the bible fits with geology, history, archaeology, philosophy, and it's presuppositions even inspired some of the worlds greatest scientists like Isaac Newton. I wish the rest of humanity would catch up.
Only since the 1800's when Charles Lisle popularised his geologic column theory based on uniformitarianism have we had huge ages thinking. Before that the geologists of the world were catastrophists, they interpreted much of geology through the lens of a flood. Charles' goal was to free science from Moses, but the flood best fits the historical facts of eye witness accounts passed down across cultures spanning the globe.
Even the Chinese symbol for boat literally translates 'vessel of 8 people' - noting Noah, his wife, 3 sons and their wives were the only survivors. The bible describes a single land mass pre-flood, heavily vegetated - hence the masses of coal we find, there were no deserts, but there were rivers and seas.
I don't know any creationist who believes penguins crossed deserts, still I have met people who believe that our greatest ancestors were primordial soup. Evolution teaches that microbes became microbiologists. It's the frog becoming a prince story, but add millions of years and slow adaptation crossing and over coming all known genus breeding barriers.
It's amazing but of no surprise how well the bible fits with geology, history, archaeology, philosophy, and it's presuppositions even inspired some of the worlds greatest scientists like Isaac Newton. I wish the rest of humanity would catch up.
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Wouldn't that require multiple floods if only Noah and his family survived upon the ark?
If the earth was without form and void, then if darkness was upon the face of the deep wouldn't that suggest the entire surface of the earth was covered under a body of water?
The reason I ask is due to the verse 9 that the dry ground didn't appear until after LORD brought the the cloud of gas over the earth called a firmament. Can it be explained how dry land could have appeared if the surface of the earth wasn't covered under water?
The reason I refer to the firmament as a cloud of gas because a cloud is formed by matter in a gaseous state, as well as what it is written the LORD said in the passage contained in Job 38:4-9
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,
And what it is written the LORD said in the passage contained Gen 9:14-16
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
If the earth was without form and void, then if darkness was upon the face of the deep wouldn't that suggest the entire surface of the earth was covered under a body of water?
The reason I ask is due to the verse 9 that the dry ground didn't appear until after LORD brought the the cloud of gas over the earth called a firmament. Can it be explained how dry land could have appeared if the surface of the earth wasn't covered under water?
The reason I refer to the firmament as a cloud of gas because a cloud is formed by matter in a gaseous state, as well as what it is written the LORD said in the passage contained in Job 38:4-9
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,
And what it is written the LORD said in the passage contained Gen 9:14-16
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
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