Hollywood stars in Hell but not in Fundy Fantasy Land -George Michael -Carrie Fisher
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I never cared for Star Wars. Didn't see what the big hoopla was. Saw it only once with an ex and it it didn't do anything for me... In regards to the video, though, George Michael and Carrie Fisher had no effect on my life because I had no idea who either were. I feel sad for their loved ones and families, because losing someone close is never easy. But it isn't my place to tell them that their deceased loved one is in hell.
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November 19, 2015 my husband had a heart attack, but thought it was indigestion.
November 21, 2015, it had gotten so much worse, he finally consented to me taking him to the ER. (He was gasping for breath -- breathing harder than most people breath after coming up from the water when trying to see how long they can hold their breath -- and yet oxygen wasn't getting into his bloodstream.) Naturally, they tried to give him an EEG, but he was sweating too hard for the tabs to stick to his body. His doctor told him, "You're dying." If he didn't go on a vent quickly he was that close to dying.
They put him on a vent. They rushed him to the cardiology unit, where tests were run that showed he was having a massive heart attack. To this day, I don't know if he had one or two heart attacks. He could have been having the same heart attack for four days.
He needed stents immediately, but that hospital didn't have the ability to add stents, so he was transported to a hospital two blocks away. He remembers one thing about that day. Someone was pushing him along a hallway and said, "This one isn't going to make it."
November 22-December 23, 2015 -- he was sedated until he could recover enough to have surgery. For much of that time, he was too sick to find out what he even needed for surgery. Too sick to be put into an MRI because he was on an EKMO for 9 days. (EKMO -- that heart-lung machine that allows the hearts and lungs to stop working by taking out the blood, oxygenating it, then returning it, all in tubes about the size of garden hoses.) He got sick in a multitude of ways during that time, that doesn't matter for my point here. He got a new valve on December 23, so they did find out what went wrong and fixed it.
December 25th, I brought in music for him on Christmas Day and played some. He was still on that vent, so he couldn't talk, but I asked him if he wanted to listen to the other album (I put two favorites on one MP3), and he shook his head, so he was conscious enough to interact. He simply has no memory of much that happened until he was transferred back to the original hospital.
Why am I telling you this? Because both of those people you say have died and gone to hell were given something you don't seem to understand. TIME!!! Lots and lots of time, after a terrible event happened to their hearts.
The brain keeps working, even when the body poops out. My husband has little to no memory of those first two months. (His memory starts on the day David Bowie died. That was the first piece of info he wanted to tell me, even when he could not talk. He used an alphabet on a sheet of paper, and not well, since I thought he pointed out "Powie" at first. lol) BUT, I remember the time he had to play hot-or-cold with me until I got to a sink in his room and finally understood he was trying to tell me he was thirsty. I remember his eye rolls when he was mad at a nurse. I remember communicating with him even if he doesn't even remember the"indigestion."
I don't know how much time Michael got. Fisher got two days. The mind keeps going. I can tell you, in vivid details, all that happened when a van hit my car from the side and pushed me into the curb across the street. It would take longer then what I just wrote, and it only took a second in reality. The mind thinks a lot and quickly.
Hubby knew he was dying. (He is a believer, so didn't have to seek salvation at that moment.) He had plenty of time to cry out to God, and I'm sure he did, even if he doesn't remember.
So if people have time, don't you think God can save them in those precious moments?
How do you know he did not?
Honestly, Carrie Fisher's death hit us pretty hard. She made it through the first day, just like hubby did. She stabilized. It took hubby three weeks to do that. I visited him every day in the ICU so saw dozens of other patients get better. She made it for two days, and she had the best money can buy, so I thought she would survive this. We were both shocked she did not. Hubby, because, once again, he came face-to-face with how fragile he is. Me, because I gave it as a given that God would restore people if they survived a day. There is only one reason hubby is alive today -- God!
There is only one reason Michael and Fisher are not -- God.
How about a bit more respect on how grand God is, instead of glib assumptions about celebrities? Your post wasn't hard truth. It was glib Christianese.
November 21, 2015, it had gotten so much worse, he finally consented to me taking him to the ER. (He was gasping for breath -- breathing harder than most people breath after coming up from the water when trying to see how long they can hold their breath -- and yet oxygen wasn't getting into his bloodstream.) Naturally, they tried to give him an EEG, but he was sweating too hard for the tabs to stick to his body. His doctor told him, "You're dying." If he didn't go on a vent quickly he was that close to dying.
They put him on a vent. They rushed him to the cardiology unit, where tests were run that showed he was having a massive heart attack. To this day, I don't know if he had one or two heart attacks. He could have been having the same heart attack for four days.
He needed stents immediately, but that hospital didn't have the ability to add stents, so he was transported to a hospital two blocks away. He remembers one thing about that day. Someone was pushing him along a hallway and said, "This one isn't going to make it."
November 22-December 23, 2015 -- he was sedated until he could recover enough to have surgery. For much of that time, he was too sick to find out what he even needed for surgery. Too sick to be put into an MRI because he was on an EKMO for 9 days. (EKMO -- that heart-lung machine that allows the hearts and lungs to stop working by taking out the blood, oxygenating it, then returning it, all in tubes about the size of garden hoses.) He got sick in a multitude of ways during that time, that doesn't matter for my point here. He got a new valve on December 23, so they did find out what went wrong and fixed it.
December 25th, I brought in music for him on Christmas Day and played some. He was still on that vent, so he couldn't talk, but I asked him if he wanted to listen to the other album (I put two favorites on one MP3), and he shook his head, so he was conscious enough to interact. He simply has no memory of much that happened until he was transferred back to the original hospital.
Why am I telling you this? Because both of those people you say have died and gone to hell were given something you don't seem to understand. TIME!!! Lots and lots of time, after a terrible event happened to their hearts.
The brain keeps working, even when the body poops out. My husband has little to no memory of those first two months. (His memory starts on the day David Bowie died. That was the first piece of info he wanted to tell me, even when he could not talk. He used an alphabet on a sheet of paper, and not well, since I thought he pointed out "Powie" at first. lol) BUT, I remember the time he had to play hot-or-cold with me until I got to a sink in his room and finally understood he was trying to tell me he was thirsty. I remember his eye rolls when he was mad at a nurse. I remember communicating with him even if he doesn't even remember the"indigestion."
I don't know how much time Michael got. Fisher got two days. The mind keeps going. I can tell you, in vivid details, all that happened when a van hit my car from the side and pushed me into the curb across the street. It would take longer then what I just wrote, and it only took a second in reality. The mind thinks a lot and quickly.
Hubby knew he was dying. (He is a believer, so didn't have to seek salvation at that moment.) He had plenty of time to cry out to God, and I'm sure he did, even if he doesn't remember.
So if people have time, don't you think God can save them in those precious moments?
How do you know he did not?
Honestly, Carrie Fisher's death hit us pretty hard. She made it through the first day, just like hubby did. She stabilized. It took hubby three weeks to do that. I visited him every day in the ICU so saw dozens of other patients get better. She made it for two days, and she had the best money can buy, so I thought she would survive this. We were both shocked she did not. Hubby, because, once again, he came face-to-face with how fragile he is. Me, because I gave it as a given that God would restore people if they survived a day. There is only one reason hubby is alive today -- God!
There is only one reason Michael and Fisher are not -- God.
How about a bit more respect on how grand God is, instead of glib assumptions about celebrities? Your post wasn't hard truth. It was glib Christianese.
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Just seems out of place to comment negatively on the death of someone. I was bothered when many Christians (I recall reading Matt Walsh's blog on this topic) condemned and took a harsh approach to the news of Robin Williams' death after he committed suicide. I think they somehow believed that their hard stance would cause others to rethink suicide. Personally, I think it would just alienate others. I also think that making statements that certain celebrities are in hell (after news of their death is circulating) accomplishes nothing positive and just makes Christians sound stupid. Even if we have good reason to suspect that a person did not die a believer what is gained by proclaiming that they are in hell? It almost sounds like the person making these statements is relishing in the thought. It's pretty grievous to think that any person would end up eternally lost. If a Christian was going to comment it would be far better to not resort to such vitriolic statements like " George Michael was a flaming homo." That really doesn't speak to me of a rational and sane Christian. It's just laughably insensitive and rednecked.
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TBH I'm sick of the news saturation on the deaths of George Michael and Carrie Fisher - like they are some kind of "gods" but regarding their spiritual status...often when a celeb dies we hear rumours of their "faith" - it happened too with David Bowie and others, often it is a faith of sorts but way off the mark of what we would deem to be Christianity of any denomination. We can never know the full story and even if we did it is not for us to choose but God Himself. I think it's more important that we take care of our own salvation along with that of our nearest and dearest...often I feel I fall way short of the mark and it is that which deserves my attention. God takes care of everyone else and he is a just but loving God - best left in His hands I recon.
Mostly correct, but not the way I would choose to state it.
I don't think it's wrong though to appreciate what they did in life and wish them well in the afterlife. For all we know, she could have had a last-second conversion.
It is dangerous though to simply assume they went to heaven. Not to mention a capitulation in and of itself to the dominant secular universalism which seems to acknowledge the divine when somebody dies or dabbles in the occult.
I don't think it's wrong though to appreciate what they did in life and wish them well in the afterlife. For all we know, she could have had a last-second conversion.
It is dangerous though to simply assume they went to heaven. Not to mention a capitulation in and of itself to the dominant secular universalism which seems to acknowledge the divine when somebody dies or dabbles in the occult.
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not the way I feel at all
I just want to do inter-stellar travel and have a place in the country
but I'll take the horse...or a few of them
on the serious side, I think that some people may 'enjoy' telling themselves that even though these people had everything, they still end up in hell so my miserable little life will be for now but heaven for eternity
there are a few people whose passing may get me to raise an eyebrow in satisfaction, but in the end, even those are sad
none of that makes me better...maybe just a little more ... realistic...
I wonder how much folks making a fuss were making a fuss the day before they knew someone was going to die
I'm weird that way
Hi Willie,
Actually, we don't salivate over this. It will be God's justice in taking care of the wicked who are left alive after all his wrath.
It is Jesus who will be killing these people with that double-edged sword that proceeds out of his mouth, which is figurative representing the word of God. And, those who are being killed, will be those who will have worshiped the beast, his image and received his mark. They will also be the same people will have persecuted the great tribulation saints. Those who Jesus kills will be the following:
"The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood—idols that cannot see or hear or walk. Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their sexual immorality or their thefts."
"The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was allowed to scorch people with fire. They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him."
"The fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness. People gnawed their tongues in agony and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but they refused to repent of what they had done.
"Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. From the sky huge hailstones, each weighing about a hundred pounds, fell on people. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.
God gives them opportunity to repent and believe all the way up to the 7th bowl judgment, but they continue to curse him to the very end. These are the people who will be gathered before Christ at Armageddon and will be killed with that double-edged sword.
Actually, we don't salivate over this. It will be God's justice in taking care of the wicked who are left alive after all his wrath.
It is Jesus who will be killing these people with that double-edged sword that proceeds out of his mouth, which is figurative representing the word of God. And, those who are being killed, will be those who will have worshiped the beast, his image and received his mark. They will also be the same people will have persecuted the great tribulation saints. Those who Jesus kills will be the following:
"The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood—idols that cannot see or hear or walk. Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their sexual immorality or their thefts."
"The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was allowed to scorch people with fire. They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him."
"The fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness. People gnawed their tongues in agony and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but they refused to repent of what they had done.
"Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. From the sky huge hailstones, each weighing about a hundred pounds, fell on people. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.
God gives them opportunity to repent and believe all the way up to the 7th bowl judgment, but they continue to curse him to the very end. These are the people who will be gathered before Christ at Armageddon and will be killed with that double-edged sword.
LUKE 13:1-5
There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood
Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all
the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners
above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
1COR. 6:9-10.
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived:
neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
we don't know WHO the WORSE 'sinner' is, but we DO KNOW 'who shall NOT' inherit The Kingdom of God...
according to their 'behaviour'...if someone continues practicing these behaviours, then it is obvious that there
has been NO REPENTANCE...
There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood
Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all
the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners
above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
1COR. 6:9-10.
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived:
neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
we don't know WHO the WORSE 'sinner' is, but we DO KNOW 'who shall NOT' inherit The Kingdom of God...
according to their 'behaviour'...if someone continues practicing these behaviours, then it is obvious that there
has been NO REPENTANCE...
