The 7 Thunders
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Look in the parallel passage of Dan. 12:5-7.
There the man in linen says,
It shall be for a times, times,and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
Since the passage in Dan. 12 shows the scattering of Israel from Jerusalem in 70 ad,
It might be assumed that the 7 thunders say something like,
Time, times, and an half times, until the power of the holy people will come together again.
This would show the completion of the 7 times after Israel is restored to control of Jerusalem, 1967.
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So the 1st 3 1/2 t's is from the angel in Babylon until the scattering in 70 ad.
The 2nd 3 1/2 t's is from 70 ad until 1967,
Completing the times of the gentiles, when Israel is restored to Jerusalem.
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The reason that this could not be understood before was because Israel had not been restored to Jerusalem,
When that happened, it changed the entire prophetic timeline,
Along with other factors.
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That's my best guess.
Happy New Year, John!
Since the voice from heaven told John to seal up what the 7 thunders uttered, it wouldn't make any sense if it was written somewhere else in scripture. The sealing of this information would demonstrate that it was/is something particular that God did not want us to know at this time. Therefore, anything that we venture to claim regarding what they said can only be speculation best.
Since the voice from heaven told John to seal up what the 7 thunders uttered, it wouldn't make any sense if it was written somewhere else in scripture. The sealing of this information would demonstrate that it was/is something particular that God did not want us to know at this time. Therefore, anything that we venture to claim regarding what they said can only be speculation best.
It would not matter for the angel told John not to write the words down,so God does not want us to know,and if it is Paul that was caught up to paradise,and heard words that is not lawful for a person to speak,then the angel that told John not to write it down would also be unlawful for a person to speak.
2Co 12:1 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.
2Co 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth
such an one caught up to the third heaven.
2Co 12:3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth
2Co 12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
2Co 12:5 Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities.
But Paul sure has a funny way of referencing himself by saying he knew a person above 14 years ago,and he was caught up to paradise,and he will glory in that person,but not glory in himself.
Paul is obviously talking about someone else,and not himself.
2Co 12:1 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.
2Co 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth
such an one caught up to the third heaven. 2Co 12:3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth
2Co 12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
2Co 12:5 Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities.
But Paul sure has a funny way of referencing himself by saying he knew a person above 14 years ago,and he was caught up to paradise,and he will glory in that person,but not glory in himself.
Paul is obviously talking about someone else,and not himself.
