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eternally-gratefull

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TruthTalk said:
No argument here and I agree stay in the Ark, jumping from the Ark (our salvation), would be like jumping out of a perfectly good airplane, foolish mistake with dreadful consequences.....:)
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Can you jump out of the ark? God sealed the door. Could Noah have opened it to jump out?
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Can you ju out of the ark? God sealed the door. Could Noah have opened it to jump out?
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I know....man I would really like to say what I think about this foolishness of losing or forfeiting salvation and that one must keep themselves saved......it is such a disgrace to JESUS and totally throws him under the bus.....!
 
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BillG said:
Hi TruthTalk,

Thank you for your kind words.

I have said this to others on here and I will say this you.
Thank you for serving your country.
I always get very emotional and stand in awe and thank God for you and others who served their country.
Willing to put their lives on the line to bring freedom and come against evil.

Over here when it gets towards Nov 11 where we buy poppies in rememberance it's not unusual to see Vets selling them on the streets.

Everyone I have ever seen I have bought one from them, I thank them and I raise my hand, stand tall and I salute them.
I have seen many cry when I do that.

Thank you TT and every other person who has who has served in whatever capacity.
I salute you and thank you.

TT, may our Father bless you.

Jesus we thank you for TT, thank you that he has stood firm in what he knows is right in you.
Thank you that he was willing to die for what he knows is right, to bring freedom from the tyranny of evil so people will be free.
Even people like the guy who has been banned.
Thank you that given his condition of health he is still serving you.
Thank you for the inspiration he brings to all of us.
And we thank you that on the day when you say "Time to stand down soldier and come home" that he will be with you forever and we will see him one day.
I hope I can stand before him and salute him.





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Thank you BillG, I would stand next to you in battle anytime, anywhere, well I guess were already fighting on God's battle field for justice, today so there ya go.... your comments and support mean a lot, thanks again. I'd like to see the Poppy Tribute one day soon....Nov, 11th....:)
 
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I know....man I would really like to say what I think about this foolishness of losing or forfeiting salvation and that one must keep themselves saved......it is such a disgrace to JESUS and totally throws him under the bus.....!
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Thats the part people do not get.

We do not take it as an offense to us personally, We take it as an offense to our savior. And that makes us angry and sad at the same time (angry for putting my Gods name to chase, and sad that they think they are saved by doing it)
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Thats the part people do not get.

We do not take it as an offense to us personally, We take it as an offense to our savior. And that makes us angry and sad at the same time (angry for putting my Gods name to chase, and sad that they think they are saved by doing it)
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Absolutely.......fires me up to no end.........especially when they lie and try to say we believe the same thing........when in fact our theologies are as far as the east is from the west..............
 
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Absolutely.......fires me up to no end.........especially when they lie and try to say we believe the same thing........when in fact our theologies are as far as the east is from the west..............
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We do not believe the same, that's nonsense.

We have faith God will keep his promise, no matter what. As he promised he would

they do not. Period.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
We do not believe the same, that's nonsense.

We have faith God will keep his promise, no matter what. As he promised he would

they do not. Period.
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Read the thread...Phart likes to say he believes the same thing as I do.....a lie....he knows full well that he teaches that HE MUST KEEP HIMSELF saved and I teach that JESUS alone keeps us saved.......
 
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TruthTalk said:
Thank you BillG, I would stand next to you in battle anytime, anywhere, well I guess were already fighting on God's battle field for justice, today so there ya go.... your comments and support mean a lot, thanks again. I'd like to see the Poppy Tribute one day soon....Nov, 11th....:)
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Yes we are soldiers in the army of God.
Onward Christian Soldiers marching off to war.
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
 
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Read the thread...Phart likes to say he believes the same thing as I do.....a lie....he knows full well that he teaches that HE MUST KEEP HIMSELF saved and I teach that JESUS alone keeps us saved.......
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the problem is he will not admit he is keeping himself saved, Until he does that, There is really nothing that can be done.

It's like before we got saved, until we admitted we even needed saved, there was no hope of us coming to truth, we had to repent first.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
the problem is he will not admit he is keeping himself saved, Until he does that, There is really nothing that can be done.

It's like before we got saved, until we admitted we even needed saved, there was no hope of us coming to truth, we had to repent first.
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Fully agree........
 
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This made me think,

is it that he will not admit ....that he is not keeping himself saved?

since in reality no one keeps themselves saved ;)



eternally-gratefull said:
the problem is he will not admit he is keeping himself saved, Until he does that, There is really nothing that can be done.

It's like before we got saved, until we admitted we even needed saved, there was no hope of us coming to truth, we had to repent first.
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Poppies are lethal..

Just sayin'...

LOL


BillG said:
Hi TruthTalk,

Thank you for your kind words.

I don't think PJ was focusing on you.
I think the fact that he liked my post was because he saw I called this guy out.
I think PJ was just saying that those who do commit fraud will be found out in the end.
So I don't think he meant you any ill will.

Dont let the prat who got banned and what he said to you get to you.
Its not worth the breath and the emotions on people who have no desire to discuss but would rather bring discord and vile rhetoric.

One day all will stand before God and every word spoken and thought and action will be laid bare before God.
Leave the affore mentioned banned in the hands of God, he will exact his personal 100% perfect justice.

I have said this to others on here and I will say this you.
Thank you for serving your country.
I always get very emotional and stand in awe and thank God for you and others who served their country.
Willing to put their lives on the line to bring freedom and come against evil.

Over here when it gets towards Nov 11 where we buy poppies in rememberance it's not unusual to see Vets selling them on the streets.

Everyone I have ever seen I have bought one from them, I thank them and I raise my hand, stand tall and I salute them.
I have seen many cry when I do that.

Thank you TT and every other person who has who has served in whatever capacity.
I salute you and thank you.

TT, may our Father bless you.

Jesus we thank you for TT, thank you that he has stood firm in what he knows is right in you.
Thank you that he was willing to die for what he knows is right, to bring freedom from the tyranny of evil so people will be free.
Even people like the guy who has been banned.
Thank you that given his condition of health he is still serving you.
Thank you for the inspiration he brings to all of us.
And we thank you that on the day when you say "Time to stand down soldier and come home" that he will be with you forever and we will see him one day.
I hope I can stand before him and salute him.





[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nhGuhfBk5xk[/video]
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UnderGrace said:
This made me think,

is it that he will not admit ....that he is not keeping himself saved?

since in reality no one keeps themselves saved ;)
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I know that and you know that. But as long as he says he can stop believing himself out of salvation, He says he keeps himself saved, whether he admits it or not, thats what he is saying.
 
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Not all ladybugs go to heaven.

Only the blue ones who love orange kitties.. Laughing.png


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eternally-gratefull said:
We do not believe the same, that's nonsense.

We have faith God will keep his promise, no matter what. As he promised he would

they do not. Period.
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You believe Gods promise is different to what He says.

He promised to those who believe, eternal life is given.
Paul expressed this as life and death to get away from the permanent
mystical aspect of fate, unrelated to behaviour with faith.

God did not promise to the unfaithful, to those who break and ignore His words.
We are not talking unreasonable things here, just sinful acts.

The fact some get angry, want violence underlines pride and worldliness is involved.
A sinner is a saint because they have renounced sin and trust in Christ.
Trusting in Christ while staying in sin is rebellion, staying an evil doer, a lawless believer
in which there is no value.

To convey this, salvation is not really the point, love is. If you love God and your neighbour
good things will flow. To me if you cannot see the beauty in the sermon on the mount, you
need to wonder where your heart is. I have died to this world, to live to Christ.

So much comes out of my life, I do not question it, it is the way of the Kingdom.
Though theologically we are very close, the fact some feel so alien describes their
emotional antipathy not belief. It is why they repeat an illogical and incorrect statement
while claiming the same framework.

It is why this conflict has gone on so long but is actually about hurts from the past by
others which is now projected on to us. But God bless them, because the only way is
healing and love, Hallelujah.
 
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