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Hizikyah

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For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ
“For look, the day shall come, burning like a furnace,...which leaves to them neither root nor branch. But to you who fear My Name the Sun of Righteousness shall arise with healing in His wings. ...leap for joy like calves from the stall....Remember the...which I commanded him..."

Did this already happen; "For look, the day shall come, burning like a furnace"
 
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Galatians 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
1 John 4:20, “"If someone says, "I love Yah," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love Yah whom he has not seen."
Luke 10:25-37
And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. 29But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?

30And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side. 33But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him, 34And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. 35And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee. 36Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? 37And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.
 

Hizikyah

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Luke 10:25-37
And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. 29But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?

30And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side. 33But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him, 34And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. 35And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee. 36Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? 37And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.
So pwerful and so to the point. No lukewarm, cold or hot.

Mat 25:31-46, "And when the Son of Aḏam comes in His esteem, and all the set-apart messengers with Him, then He shall sit on the throne of His esteem. And all the nations shall be gathered before Him, and He shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats. And He shall set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the Sovereign shall say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the reign prepared for you from the foundation of the world, for I was hungry and you gave Me food, I was thirsty and you gave Me drink, I was a stranger and you took Me in, was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you visited Me, I was in prison and you came to Me. Then the righteous shall answer Him, saying, ‘Master, when did we see You hungry and we fed You, or thirsty and gave You to drink? And when did we see You a stranger and took You in, or naked and clothed You? And when did we see You sick, or in prison, and we came to You? And the Sovereign shall answer and say to them, ‘Truly, I say to you, in so far as you did it to one of the least of these My brothers, you did it to Me. He shall then also say to those on the left hand, ‘Go away from Me, accursed ones, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his messengers, for I was hungry and you gave Me no food, I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, was naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’ Then they also shall answer Him, saying, ‘Master, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not serve You? Then He shall answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, in so far as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into everlasting life."
 
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Answer the question, what laws can't be followed?
wrong question, we can follow them all. Do we is the question. God requires perfection. If you can achieve that you are sadly mistaken.
 
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You know why, because there is not one law or commandment that is too hard to keep, edomite.
Actually there is, because the law as written is not complete.

Thats why jesus had to expound on them on the sermon on the mount.

I can follow the letter. And still fall short. Because the letter is not

Just ask the pharisees.
 

Hizikyah

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wrong question, we can follow them all. Do we is the question. God requires perfection. If you can achieve that you are sadly mistaken.
Do we want to follow them?

and

Is wanting to follow them a sign that one is apart of the new/renewed covenant ratified in the blood of Yahshua/Jesus?

Jeremiah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israyl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."
 

VCO

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LOL..... well oughta is not a word, it should be ought to

Remember right mouse click brings up spell checkBack to work and life is once again busy...but I have been reading along thoughon occasionwondering if Phart finally says wow "I was once blind now I see"...:DI am still hopeful
Well now that depends on where you hail from. Here words like: oughta, ain't, you'all, yahear, boonedocks, crawdads, fishen, beddybye, and a WHOLE BUNCH of other words are just plain ol every day language. I think that calls for some Kicken Country Gospel:

[video=youtube;mCeEXqca-Bc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCeEXqca-Bc[/video]



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tdfqOKrCBQ
 
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So pwerful and so to the point. No lukewarm, cold or hot.

Mat 25:31-46, "And when the Son of Aḏam comes in His esteem, and all the set-apart messengers with Him, then He shall sit on the throne of His esteem. And all the nations shall be gathered before Him, and He shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats. And He shall set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the Sovereign shall say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the reign prepared for you from the foundation of the world, for I was hungry and you gave Me food, I was thirsty and you gave Me drink, I was a stranger and you took Me in, was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you visited Me, I was in prison and you came to Me. Then the righteous shall answer Him, saying, ‘Master, when did we see You hungry and we fed You, or thirsty and gave You to drink? And when did we see You a stranger and took You in, or naked and clothed You? And when did we see You sick, or in prison, and we came to You? And the Sovereign shall answer and say to them, ‘Truly, I say to you, in so far as you did it to one of the least of these My brothers, you did it to Me. He shall then also say to those on the left hand, ‘Go away from Me, accursed ones, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his messengers, for I was hungry and you gave Me no food, I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, was naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’ Then they also shall answer Him, saying, ‘Master, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not serve You? Then He shall answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, in so far as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into everlasting life."

Hebrews 2:11-12

For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
12Saying,I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.

Psalm 22:22
I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.

Romans 2:23
You who boast in Law, do you dishonor God through the transgression of the Law?

Galatians 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

1 John 2:10-11
He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
 
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I just want to know how many Law keepers on here have a straight razor and leather strop handy?



Get ready guys...
 
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Get outta town really....;)
Well, to keep the Law, you have to be under the Law covenant. The first thing to procure your enlistment is circumcision of the foreskin. So, if these guys are keeping the Law, they best be already circumcised. If they're not, they have to have it done to remain in the Law covenant.



Hmmmm....seems about right. Guys, here's a pillow to bite on...



Oops...maybe I gave that pillow to you a tad bit too hard...
 

stonesoffire

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I'm always amazed when no one mentions the new commandment.

Joh 13:34 A newcommandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

The greater love of laying down of ones life for another's welfare.

This requires the union of God and man. One with Him.
 

TruthTalk

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Well, to keep the Law, you have to be under the Law covenant. The first thing to procure your enlistment is circumcision of the foreskin. So, if these guys are keeping the Law, they best be already circumcised. If they're not, they have to have it done to remain in the Law covenant.
Howdy SG, I get your point, I though you were ready to open shop, too many "keep yourself saved" folks here.
 
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Well, to keep the Law, you have to be under the Law covenant. The first thing to procure your enlistment is circumcision of the foreskin. So, if these guys are keeping the Law, they best be already circumcised. If they're not, they have to have it done to remain in the Law covenant.



Hmmmm....seems about right. Guys, here's a pillow to bite on...



Oops...maybe I gave that pillow to you a tad bit too hard...
And just think how many had to get circumcised "Again",talk about double pain,seriously,I am so glad paul let's people know that circumcision of the heart is more important than circumcision of flesh,one less thing to worry about in a sense,those of us who have accepted the new covenant that is...
And who you kidding,bite on a pillow my foot,a sharp knife or rock is used,I'd need icecream,or anesthesia probably,just to go through with that,let alone endure the crippling pain afterward lol!
 
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Howdy SG, I get your point, I though you were ready to open shop, too many "keep yourself saved" folks here.
Ppl do not realize that if what they are posting is true, then we have to now re-slaughter sheep, doves, oxen, &c. Plus, we need a high priest to atone for us daily. One who once a year would go into the inner sanctuary where the Ark of the Covenant, mercy seat, two stone tablets, Aaron's rod, &c are located. However, those went 'poof' when the Christ ascended to the Father. He entered through that veil, rent it from top-to-bottom so that we are now on the same footing as the Jews are.
 

loveme1

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Ppl do not realize that if what they are posting is true, then we have to now re-slaughter sheep, doves, oxen, &c. Plus, we need a high priest to atone for us daily. One who once a year would go into the inner sanctuary where the Ark of the Covenant, mercy seat, two stone tablets, Aaron's rod, &c are located. However, those went 'poof' when the Christ ascended to the Father. He entered through that veil, rent it from top-to-bottom so that we are now on the same footing as the Jews are.

GOD is to be Worshipped in Spirit and Truth through Faith in the Messiah. That is the New Covenant.. the Commands you refer to were for a time and to bring the Messiah in to the world to give the New and Better for all who Repent and Believe. We are all condemned by the Old and can all be forgiven and Reconciled through the New.. GOD be thanked.
 
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GOD is to be Worshipped in Spirit and Truth through Faith in the Messiah. That is the New Covenant.. the Commands you refer to were for a time and to bring the Messiah in to the world to give the New and Better for all who Repent and Believe. We are all condemned by the Old and can all be forgiven and Reconciled through the New.. GOD be thanked.
Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe. Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.[Galatians 3:21-29]

The best the Law could do, Sissy, was bring us TO the Christ, but not INTO the Christ.
 

loveme1

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Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe. Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.[Galatians 3:21-29]

The best the Law could do, Sissy, was bring us TO the Christ, but not INTO the Christ.

Paul is teaching the New in place of the Old.. it appears many were being bewitched to Keep the Old Covenant and be circumcised.. and once you circumcise your flesh you make void the Law of Faith which is the New Covenant.

GOD's Law is written on our heart and put in our mind .. that is the New Covenant through His Son's Testament.
 
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Paul is teaching the New in place of the Old.. it appears many were being bewitched to Keep the Old Covenant and be circumcised.. and once you circumcise your flesh you make void the Law of Faith which is the New Covenant.

GOD's Law is written on our heart and put in our mind .. that is the New Covenant through His Son's Testament.
I agree with all you said here. But that does not mean we have to keep the Law now. The Christ kept it perfectly, and that has been imputed unto us, and now its as if we have kept the Law perfectly, being in the Christ.