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Really?

Yes i I hate myself off, I hate my worse traits and I don't laugh at what I am.
Where does this come from.

50/50 answer. God or Satan? I will flip my coin and say it ain't Satan.

Humility? What is it.

Its saying to God, I need you, I need you to work in me, without you I am nothing. Thank you for saving me and working in me.

Anything other than that is PRIDE
not sure billy Because if we need to ask him that we also need to hope we will recieve salvation but seeing as some people who have liked your post dont a agree with that then how can your statement be true ? to the people who liked your post... ?
 
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ive often wonderered Shouldnt it always be amen God ?... i mean Surely blue consulted her bible befor she blerted out that no one can be holy,,, as where certainly called to be ??
If you are going to quote me and make some snide, flippant remark to make me or Blue look bad I suggest you reference the whole quote.....I for one am tired of being misquoted and or not fully quoted and or my quote being embellished by you and your pals...it is not only deceptive, but also wrong and contrary to the truth. How are these types of works proving that you are right with God?

My part of the quote you actually quoted...

Originally Posted by dcontroversal
AMEN Blue

NOW FOR THE REST OF THE QUOTE!

You know....funny thing what Jesus said while alive on this earth, along with his Apostles and disciples who could walk on water, raise the dead, cast out demons, heal the sick and numerous other miracles unnamed....and while also being identified as his church no less than two times in the present context and filled with saved, immersed disciples of JESUS...

JESUS SAID...."THERE are NONE GOOD save GOD".....HE ALSO SAID, "IF you being EVIL can give good gifts unto your children, HOW MUCH MORE YOUR FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN"<----identifies them as the children of GOD as in SAVED

JESUS must be stupid and ignorant of this sinless, perfectionism lie that permeates many today...

HE SAID his disciples were NOT GOD and EVIL........it is the SPIRIT that is BORN AGAIN of INCORRUPTABE SEED and it is BOUND in a FALLEN, SINFUL body of FLESH.........

PAUL said the EVIL that he does is SIN which dwells in him.....wake up people........it is only the spirit of GOD that is born of incorruptible seed that does not SIN because it is BORN of the HOLY SPIRIT!
 
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well, if you think you can measure up to Paul and the Apostles , much less Christ himself, then you are delusional. or more delusional than you normally are.
Paul was no diffrent to you or i but they where some diffrences... because he saw what he saw he was truly devoted to his work...

Just like im devoted to believing also in God after what ive seen... I could be in the same leaugue as paul if i had the same desire of truly believing...
 
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Do the rest of the baptists sing that song too ? :rolleyes:
You generalize way too much pal.....but in all fairness...ANY group that adds works to faith for salvation will sing this version...regardless of their flavor and or denominational association. They will also be the "plenteous in number" <--many that go before the throne boasting of their works as their right to enter the kingdom....only to be rejected, denied entrance and cast from the presence of Jesus.....
 
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If you are going to quote me and make some snide, flippant remark to make me or Blue look bad I suggest you reference the whole quote.....I for one am tired of being misquoted and or not fully quoted and or my quote being embellished by you and your pals...it is not only deceptive, but also wrong and contrary to the truth. How are these types of works proving that you are right with God?

My part of the quote you actually quoted...

Originally Posted by dcontroversal
AMEN Blue

NOW FOR THE REST OF THE QUOTE!

You know....funny thing what Jesus said while alive on this earth, along with his Apostles and disciples who could walk on water, raise the dead, cast out demons, heal the sick and numerous other miracles unnamed....and while also being identified as his church no less than two times in the present context and filled with saved, immersed disciples of JESUS...

JESUS SAID...."THERE are NONE GOOD save GOD".....HE ALSO SAID, "IF you being EVIL can give good gifts unto your children, HOW MUCH MORE YOUR FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN"<----identifies them as the children of GOD as in SAVED

JESUS must be stupid and ignorant of this sinless, perfectionism lie that permeates many today...

HE SAID his disciples were NOT GOD and EVIL........it is the SPIRIT that is BORN AGAIN of INCORRUPTABE SEED and it is BOUND in a FALLEN, SINFUL body of FLESH.........

PAUL said the EVIL that he does is SIN which dwells in him.....wake up people........it is only the spirit of GOD that is born of incorruptible seed that does not SIN because it is BORN of the HOLY SPIRIT!
I think you need to come down of ya high horse pal.. :)
 
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You generalize way too much pal.....but in all fairness...ANY group that adds works to faith for salvation will sing this version...regardless of their flavor and or denominational association. They will also be the "plenteous in number" <--many that go before the throne boasting of their works as their right to enter the kingdom....only to be rejected, denied entrance and cast from the presence of Jesus.....
Sounds like a load of vindaloo to me......... the father loves Good works but you my friend are over stepping the mark by defiling aa holy song with discraceful lyrics... sorry but you are and have..God bless
 
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well, if you think you can measure up to Paul and the Apostles , much less Christ himself, then you are delusional. or more delusional than you normally are.
It is sad you feel like this. Pauls heart was that he would be an example for others
to follow.

Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
1 Cor 11:1

Paul was passionate about love and dedication to our Lord.
Sounds like you are not capable of rising to his challenge, but rather
want to dismiss it as impossible. This is not walking in faith but
unbelief. Paul was the enemy of the church, killing and imprisoning
believers, putting them through terrible trials and some to their deaths.

This man God took to be our brother and example. So I encourage you
to listen to his words and take heart who the Holy Spirit is and what He
can do in our lives, Amen.

It is sad that so many accept your dismissive approach, just like the world
mocking Christ on the cross, not realising He had chosen this road.
 
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It is sad you feel like this. Pauls heart was that he would be an example for others
to follow.

Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
1 Cor 11:1

Paul was passionate about love and dedication to our Lord.
Sounds like you are not capable of rising to his challenge, but rather
want to dismiss it as impossible. This is not walking in faith but
unbelief. Paul was the enemy of the church, killing and imprisoning
believers, putting them through terrible trials and some to their deaths.

This man God took to be our brother and example. So I encourage you
to listen to his words and take heart who the Holy Spirit is and what He
can do in our lives, Amen.

It is sad that so many accept your dismissive approach, just like the world
mocking Christ on the cross, not realising He had chosen this road.
Yup Paul was devoted to his work..
 
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Sounds like a load of vindaloo to me......... the father loves Good works but you my friend are over stepping the mark by defiling aa holy song with discraceful lyrics... sorry but you are and have..God bless
Surely they have stores in England that sell nappies and binkis right?
 
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I dont know but we also have confession booths to show your self approved befor God for confessing to brothers.....
Yeah....UMMMM....I do not need a booth or confess to some dude with a white collar!
 

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Originally Posted by BillG

If I didnt know his love in my heart and his healing in my even though I seek is so badly does that mean I don't know his resurrection life.

Even if I believe Jesus is the son of God who died and rose again for my sin.

Even though I don't get why




All we know is where we have got to, not if there is a bottom or a floor, and this is it.
So it struck me, maybe I have finally seen healing and been straightened out, and know
how to love. I saw a few months ago I am to carry hurts inflicted by others and say Amen,

God bless, I forgive you, to carry their sin and love them back as Jesus did for me.
I see what you are saying and I like what you have said.

I would just like to ask you one question though.

You say you have finally seen healing and know how to love.
You then say you carry inflicted hurts and carry their sin.

Do you not feel that God can heal your inflicted hurts against you?
Why carry their sin and not give it up to God?

Can we truly love people as Jesus does if we carry hurts they have inflicted on us. If we have hurts do we not put barriers up.
We can't carry another persons sin, only Jesus can do and did that.

Just thought I'd ask
 
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Yeah....UMMMM....I do not need a booth or confess to some dude with a white collar!
Dude is bad then ?... It doesnt have to be a white collar it can be a believer... in a confession booth in the house Of God...
 
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Dude is bad then ?... It doesnt have to be a white collar it can be a believer... in a confession booth in the house Of God...

I have a mediator in heaven in the presence of GOD...his name is JESUS...the one and ONLY ONE mediator between GOD and MEN....you should try him....by faith!
 
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I see what you are saying and I like what you have said.

I would just like to ask you one question though.

You say you have finally seen healing and know how to love.
You then say you carry inflicted hurts and carry their sin.

Do you not feel that God can heal your inflicted hurts against you?
Why carry their sin and not give it up to God?

Can we truly love people as Jesus does if we carry hurts they have inflicted on us. If we have hurts do we not put barriers up.
We can't carry another persons sin, only Jesus can do and did that.

Just thought I'd ask
Hurt is and can also be a scar... some scars are deep and dont fully come to the service for years...

Scars that are mental traumas are diffrent..... they are not your average scar.... they can be a deep scar that needs to come to the service for you to function but has to wait until you can function befor they do or maybe they dont wait....

Maybe they just come out of the blue and over time you start to heal... But even when your healing that scar you have may just suddenly reapear like an unwanted spot..
 
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I have a mediator in heaven in the presence of GOD...his name is JESUS...the one and ONLY ONE mediator between GOD and MEN....you should try him....by faith!
I have never asked to be joined in unity without praying to the lord first... I have only one mediator... Just because i ask for my prayer to be sent to believers or just because i ask the lord to commune with saints whilst im in unity has nothing to do with mediating with someone else befor God..

Its you who needs try it not me...
 
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I have never asked to be joined in unity without praying to the lord first... I have only one mediator... Just because i ask for my prayer to be sent to believers or just because i ask the lord to commune with saints whilst im in unity has nothing to do with mediating with someone else befor God..

Its you who needs try it not me...
Why would I want to do something false like that.....why would I need a prayer SENT to believers......not hardly.......!