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stonesoffire

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By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

New Living Translation
When God speaks of a "new" covenant, it means he has made the first one obsolete. It is now out of date and will soon disappear.

English Standard Version
In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Berean Study Bible
In speaking of a new covenant, He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

Berean Literal Bible
In saying, "new," He has made obsolete the first; and that which is growing old and aging is near vanishing.

New American Standard Bible
When He said, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear.

King James Bible
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
By saying, a new covenant, He has declared that the first is old. And what is old and aging is about to disappear.

International Standard Version
In speaking of a "new" covenant, he has made the first one obsolete, and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

NET Bible
When he speaks of a new covenant, he makes the first obsolete. Now what is growing obsolete and aging is about to disappear.

New Heart English Bible
In that he says, "new," he has made the first old. But that which is becoming old and grows aged is near to vanishing away.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
In that he said, “New”, he has made the first old, and that which is outdated and old is near destruction.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
God made this new promise and showed that the first promise was outdated. What is outdated and aging will soon disappear.

New American Standard 1977
When He said, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear.

Jubilee Bible 2000
In that he says, New, he has made the first old. Now that which decays and waxes old is ready to vanish away.

King James 2000 Bible
In that he says, A new covenant, he has made the first old. Now that which decays and grows old is ready to vanish away.

American King James Version
In that he said, A new covenant, he has made the first old. Now that which decays and waxes old is ready to vanish away.

American Standard Version
In that he saith, A new covenant he hath made the first old. But that which is becoming old and waxeth aged is nigh unto vanishing away.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Now in saying a new, he hath made the former old. And that which decayeth and groweth old, is near its end.

Darby Bible Translation
In that he says New, he has made the first old; but that which grows old and aged [is] near disappearing.

English Revised Version
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. But that which is becoming old and waxeth aged is nigh unto vanishing away.

Webster's Bible Translation
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and groweth old is ready to vanish away.

Weymouth New Testament
By using the words, "a new Covenant," He has made the first one obsolete; but whatever is decaying and showing signs of old age is not far from disappearing altogether.

World English Bible
In that he says, "A new covenant," he has made the first old. But that which is becoming old and grows aged is near to vanishing away.

Young's Literal Translation
in the saying 'new,' He hath made the first old, and what doth become obsolete and is old is nigh disappearing.
 

loveme1

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Here's another gem from the scripture that most people never heard.


The piece of cloth that covered Jesus's face was not a napkin that is at the table. It was a cloth used to catch sweat from a man at work. Found separated from the linen cloth that covered His body.

Now tell me this doesn't speak of rest from labors that Jesus brought to mankind? The Spirit is our refreshing, and we have sat down in the heavenly realm with Jesus above all that is earthly. That we might partake of all that is heavenly.

Come up a little higher.

1 Corinthians 15

50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal mustput on immortality. 54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.


read all but the last line speaks of our labour in the Lord which is what we do while we abide.. labour in love..
 

stonesoffire

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I may not agree with DC on much either.. but was he born to kill in the name of peace and safety of a nation? Paul before conversion and what he believed prior comes to mind.. afterwards He was persecuted.. tell me at what point did believers go from being killed for the Faith to killing for country?

You have a Christian in One country believe he fights for GOD and country and a Christian in another Country of the same belief.. they come against each other because their nations are at war.. which one is a Christian and should prevail?


I speak these things because the day is coming when many will put country first and do things for people that deceive them.. yes.. the day is here but in the last many will live by rather than die by the sword having been deceived that they had a GOD given right to..

May it not be so for any here.. May it not be so.

Be Faithful unto death my friends.. let not the blood be on your hands for the evil rebellion play on your prideful flag covered hearts.
My word you are so mixed up.

You think that the Lord doesn't care for the nations and which god is their God?

Islam has infiltrated where you live. They want to take you and our God out of the world that 'satan" might be king.

You think we should just roll over and allow it?

I feel so sorry for you and the brethren I know from facebook from England. I love England...it's my heritage. Grandparents came from there and my maiden name is very English.

But, Islam is now in your government and you all will feel the effects of this. The royal rule tried to keep it out with Diana, though I don't agree at all how it was done.

But, she was bringing in an influence that they were against.

Eyes need opened.
 

Rosemaryx

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Amazing Grace from an Amazing GOD.

it is lovely today.. such joy.. thanks for sharing .. I welled up .. I’m such a softy.
Awww thank you loveme1, thank you for rejoicing ...xox...
 

stonesoffire

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Well, what are you doing in your labor there loveme?

How do you labor?
 

loveme1

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By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

New Living Translation
When God speaks of a "new" covenant, it means he has made the first one obsolete. It is now out of date and will soon disappear.

English Standard Version
In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Berean Study Bible
In speaking of a new covenant, He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

Berean Literal Bible
In saying, "new," He has made obsolete the first; and that which is growing old and aging is near vanishing.

New American Standard Bible
When He said, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear.

King James Bible
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
By saying, a new covenant, He has declared that the first is old. And what is old and aging is about to disappear.

International Standard Version
In speaking of a "new" covenant, he has made the first one obsolete, and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

NET Bible
When he speaks of a new covenant, he makes the first obsolete. Now what is growing obsolete and aging is about to disappear.

New Heart English Bible
In that he says, "new," he has made the first old. But that which is becoming old and grows aged is near to vanishing away.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
In that he said, “New”, he has made the first old, and that which is outdated and old is near destruction.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
God made this new promise and showed that the first promise was outdated. What is outdated and aging will soon disappear.

New American Standard 1977
When He said, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear.

Jubilee Bible 2000
In that he says, New, he has made the first old. Now that which decays and waxes old is ready to vanish away.

King James 2000 Bible
In that he says, A new covenant, he has made the first old. Now that which decays and grows old is ready to vanish away.

American King James Version
In that he said, A new covenant, he has made the first old. Now that which decays and waxes old is ready to vanish away.

American Standard Version
In that he saith, A new covenant he hath made the first old. But that which is becoming old and waxeth aged is nigh unto vanishing away.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Now in saying a new, he hath made the former old. And that which decayeth and groweth old, is near its end.

Darby Bible Translation
In that he says New, he has made the first old; but that which grows old and aged [is] near disappearing.

English Revised Version
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. But that which is becoming old and waxeth aged is nigh unto vanishing away.

Webster's Bible Translation
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and groweth old is ready to vanish away.

Weymouth New Testament
By using the words, "a new Covenant," He has made the first one obsolete; but whatever is decaying and showing signs of old age is not far from disappearing altogether.

World English Bible
In that he says, "A new covenant," he has made the first old. But that which is becoming old and grows aged is near to vanishing away.

Young's Literal Translation
in the saying 'new,' He hath made the first old, and what doth become obsolete and is old is nigh disappearing.

Indeed not like the one one they broke but where GOD’s Law is written in our heart and put on our mind... now if you read and believe the Lord’s Testimony .. it is no surprise that He Teaches us to Keep and teach the Commandments.. to Love GOD and each other.. what of the 10 is broke? Love fulfills the Law of GOD.. GOD said He shows mercy to those who love and Keep them.. it is all there for us to read and believe.
 

stonesoffire

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Indeed not like the one one they broke but where GOD’s Law is written in our heart and put on our mind... now if you read and believe the Lord’s Testimony .. it is no surprise that He Teaches us to Keep and teach the Commandments.. to Love GOD and each other.. what of the 10 is broke? Love fulfills the Law of GOD.. GOD said He shows mercy to those who love and Keep them.. it is all there for us to read and believe.
~Rom_5:5


  And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

Do you have the Holy Ghost?

~
2Pe_1:3  According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain


unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

Do you have the Holy Ghost?

~
Rom 6:3  Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into union with the Messiah Jesus were baptized into his death? 


Rom 6:4  Therefore, through baptism we were buried with him into his death so that, just as the Messiah was raised from the dead by the Father's glory, we too may live an entirely new life. 

Were you baptized into His death? Risen with Him by resurrection life? Do you have an entirely new life?

How does one live this new life? Is it not in the Holy Ghost given to us who believe He will do this if we ask? A good thing not a stone, or a snake, or a demonic spirit that the very Spirit of God Himself?

Do you have the Holy Ghost?















 

gb9

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On defining sin, what is odd is how a believer thinks sin is so hard to define.

God make it clear and gave us commands to that we might get the idea of what
is sinful and what is not.

Now clearly some people believe just being alive is sinful, which is why they hold
we can never be truly cleansed, pure and holy.

But this contradicts scripture.

If you do not know how to define sin I suggest you do a bible study on this subject.
Hebrew word for sin-chata. definition - to miss. sin in Aramaic is defined as do wrong, commit a mistake or make an error, to miss the mark to miss the way, fail to find or have. it can also mean imperfect.

there you have it. so, if you disagree , take it up with strong's, not me. that is not my opinion, that is how the word is defined.
 

stonesoffire

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Indeed not like the one one they broke but where GOD’s Law is written in our heart and put on our mind... now if you read and believe the Lord’s Testimony .. it is no surprise that He Teaches us to Keep and teach the Commandments.. to Love GOD and each other.. what of the 10 is broke? Love fulfills the Law of GOD.. GOD said He shows mercy to those who love and Keep them.. it is all there for us to read and believe.
We cannot enter the kingdom of heaven, nor have the kingdom of God within us unless we obey His first command.

Ye must be born again.

Then comes the second command. Wait for the power.

Did you obey?
 

loveme1

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My word you are so mixed up.

You think that the Lord doesn't care for the nations and which god is their God?

Islam has infiltrated where you live. They want to take you and our God out of the world that 'satan" might be king.

You think we should just roll over and allow it?

I feel so sorry for you and the brethren I know from facebook from England. I love England...it's my heritage. Grandparents came from there and my maiden name is very English.

But, Islam is now in your government and you all will feel the effects of this. The royal rule tried to keep it out with Diana, though I don't agree at all how it was done.

But, she was bringing in an influence that they were against.

Eyes need opened.

I fear that you are deceived that Trump and the gang that side are any different to May and the gang here.. Islam is the fall guy.. keep believing the lie.. the dark force of Islam is behind many.. yes even those who you believe are good.. sorry but you will see when they all unite in peace and safety blaming religion and then proposing common good for mankind.. it is already taking place..
 

Hizikyah

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We cannot enter the kingdom of heaven, nor have the kingdom of God within us unless we obey His first command.

Ye must be born again.

Then comes the second command. Wait for the power.

Did you obey?
None canenter with flesh bodies;

This is born again;

1 Corinthians 15:51-55, “See, I speak a secret to you: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible has to put on incorruption, and this mortal to put on immortality. And when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall come to be the word that has been written, “Death is swallowed up in overcoming. O Death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your overcoming?”

what most poeple consider born again is actually this;

1 John 3:24, “And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”


Ezekiel 36:26-28, "A new heart, will I also give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the heart of stone out of your flesh, and will give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments, and do them. And you will dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and you will be My people, and I will be your Father."

Ezekiel 11:19-21, “And I shall give them one heart, and put a new spirit within you. And I shall take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh, so that they walk in My laws, and guard My right-rulings, and shall do them. And they shall be My people and I shall be their Strength. But to those whose hearts walk after the heart of their disgusting matters and their abominations, I shall recompense their deeds on their own heads,” declares the Master יהוה.”

Jeremiah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israyl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."

Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”

 

loveme1

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We cannot enter the kingdom of heaven, nor have the kingdom of God within us unless we obey His first command.

Ye must be born again.

Then comes the second command. Wait for the power.

Did you obey?

I believed.. and was set free to love and obey by a Gracious GOD.. and when you are picked up from off your knees having despair and guilt removed far by Christ whom you called upon to help.. that Love I never knew existed.. I never deserved.. I’m forever grateful and Love my Lord and Hear His voice.. and all I desire is to love and obey Him out of grattitude for saving me.
 

gb9

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I fear that you are deceived that Trump and the gang that side are any different to May and the gang here.. Islam is the fall guy.. keep believing the lie.. the dark force of Islam is behind many.. yes even those who you believe are good.. sorry but you will see when they all unite in peace and safety blaming religion and then proposing common good for mankind.. it is already taking place..
I would suggest you read the quran and then re-vist this statement. they are doing as their god tells them in his book. tommy robinson is right. you all should listen to him, he is trying to help you.
 

stonesoffire

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Not Trump. Now if you want to blame Bush, yes I will agree with you. I heard with my own ears HW Bush speak of the coming New World Order. We were deceived by George W. Bush, thinking he was a Christian.

But, not Trump. You all are deceived by the news media. I listen to the prophets. Trump was declared President years ago before he ever came on the scene.

This is why Trump is so hated. Judgement however is falling right and left and its' being revealed who the evil is in govt.

But, we are off topic.
 

loveme1

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And you misjudge my motives. I am trying to get you to think about these scriptures.
Be not a judge but a doer of the Royal Law.. provoking each other to Love and do good works.. the work the Lord Commanded.. now my Lord will not be fooled for He knows my heart and I’m content to wait for my moment before Him..
 

Hizikyah

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I fear that you are deceived that Trump and the gang that side are any different to May and the gang here.. Islam is the fall guy.. keep believing the lie.. the dark force of Islam is behind many.. yes even those who you believe are good.. sorry but you will see when they all unite in peace and safety blaming religion and then proposing common good for mankind.. it is already taking place..
I think she is saying that the harlot and beast are using Islam as a sort of "attack dog" only to eventually qwell; the violence and usher in their one world religion, you know because all religions will have to answer for what islam does.

If you study how islam originated, the catholic church created islam and used them as an attack dog for taking jerusalem, only the attack dog got out of control, with modern day weapons it is much easier to control large groups of violent people...
 

loveme1

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I would suggest you read the quran and then re-vist this statement. they are doing as their god tells them in his book. tommy robinson is right. you all should listen to him, he is trying to help you.
Who wrote their quran? Are the Muslims the only religion in unbelief? I think not.. I will never read their quran.. I have no need I stick to my Heavenly Father’s Truth who said Isaac.. but just as they be unbelieving are many..

In high places posing to be good.. and we all know the good guy needs a bad guy.. but my word what the good guy will do while you all watch the bad guy be overcome.. well the end is that they will unite and show you all that religion must be eradicated.. beliefs controlled and denounced to be part of their New world order.. all for peace.. and that is why I hope many will not partake in the ways of the world.
 

Hizikyah

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I think she is saying that the harlot and beast are using Islam as a sort of "attack dog" only to eventually qwell; the violence and usher in their one world religion, you know because all religions will have to answer for what islam does.

If you study how islam originated, the catholic church created islam and used them as an attack dog for taking jerusalem, only the attack dog got out of control, with modern day weapons it is much easier to control large groups of violent people...
I have no affilation with this denomanation or any, but this video contains much truth.

[video=youtube;QCmSBfVXEmA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCmSBfVXEmA[/video]