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    Today is my cake day hahha 51 years young

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    Today is my cake day hahha 51 years young
    Still a baby but congrats.
    "To err is human; to forgive divine."

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    Quote Originally Posted by John146 View Post
    Yes, but the statement in James is a fact. The judge is standing at the door. His return is near not nearer.

    Paul says Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father.
    No one denies the judge is at the door.....the difference is simple...those in Christ by faith are not CONDEMNED BY THE JUDGE, but rather rewarded (misthos ->pay or wages for service rendered) by the judge at the BEMA seat of Christ......those NOT IN CHRIST BY FAITH are condemend as guilty and cast from his presence at the Great White throne judgement of the lost......JAMES IS NOT ABOUT FAITH PLUS WORKS justifying a man before God....it is about a claim of faith being able to be seen by Men based upon said works which are a direct result of the SALVATION AND BORN AGAIN STATE one possesses in Christ by faith already!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John146 View Post
    Paul wrote to the church, the body of Christ and would not be applicable to those outside the body. James' doctrine is not applicable to me. I do not need my soul saved.

    The rich are condemned in James epistle. That's not church doctrine. Paul told the rich to be ready to distribute and be a blessing to others.
    Is this doctrine for the body of Christ today? Really?

    14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
    15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

    Also...

    17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.
    aka tribulation
    18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.

    Why Elias? Because he will be there in the trib preaching the coming of the King proving himself through miracles.

    Revelation 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
    James wrote to the 12 tribes scattered abroad.........Paul addressed churches........

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    Quote Originally Posted by slave View Post
    So, you are untrustworthy in Christ? And that is O.K to remain that way - in Christ? when you ask, "..or is it in self." Who is self in Christ? Your own identity or Christ's? If you have faith in Jesus He will produce His fruit in you! Not from working for it, but in being obligated in love and dead to the right to yourself as He is faithful to you in your faithfulness to Him..

    Satan loves the game of semantics doesn't he?
    I have no idea what your talking about.
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    Eternally Grateful for the grace God has shown a wretched soul such as myself.

    Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    Today is my cake day hahha 51 years young
    Happy Birthday

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HvYgke2fBeg
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    Today is my cake day hahha 51 years young

    Happy cake day bro!
    Eternally Grateful for the grace God has shown a wretched soul such as myself.

    Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,

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    Happy birthday to you.. now give me some cake..

    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    Today is my cake day hahha 51 years young


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    Blue_ladybug is innocent, as we know in scripture " all people who like orange tabbies are innocent."

    Quote Originally Posted by TruthTalk View Post

    I love "Orange Tabbies" , God created the world and then, "Orange Tabbies" .....

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    Imagine Blue Ladybug and an orange kitty army!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    Today is my cake day hahha 51 years young
    You're an old fart now.
    People are offended that God is God.

    Oh, my brethren! bold-hearted men are always called mean-spirited by cowards. - Charles Spurgeon

    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

    A god who can be fashioned by our own thoughts is no more a god than an image produced by our own hands. - Charles Spurgeon

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    Today is my cake day hahha 51 years young
    How many cakes on your cake day????
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    Joefizz- king of randomness -making others laugh is his hobby.

    I'm a smart idiot that serves God and I'm determined to keep to a future I believe in and trolls don't like me.

    If you don't believe in true love then please don't tell me not to believe in it because I believe it to be real.

    You are perfect?
    self righteousness is as filthy rags the bible says.
    You might wanna reconsider that ideal.

    We are all family in God's eyes,so please at least try to get along,sincerely, a child of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joefizz View Post
    How many cakes on your cake day????
    one for every post on this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester View Post
    On the contrary, Ephesians 2:8 that you underlined and bolded, says that we are saved "by grace through faith". It does not say we are saved by faith alone.


    I counter contrary with counter contrary.

    Saved by faith as a result of the grace of God and not of works.

    We are saved as a result of the grace of God which leads to faith which leads to the works prepared for us before we walk in them.
    We cannot reverse it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ2 View Post
    power?? Tell us about this "power" that your faith only theology has over any other gospel. We are all in the same boat, each of us searching for the truth. Some more then others but searching nevertheless. The Pharisees were pushing garbage, as are the followers of faith alone regeneration theology. A different type of garbage but still garbage.
    When I see the blood I will pass over you <--applied by faith Pelican....maybe your god is weak and ineffectual...Mine is of power and keeps his word and saves by faith......

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    Quote Originally Posted by star View Post
    Still a baby but congrats.
    Given that we are gonna live forever, we will be forever young.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillG View Post
    Given that we are gonna live forever, we will be forever young.
    what about the elders?

    maybe they are forever old

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoNameMcgee View Post
    what about the elders?

    maybe they are forever old
    There's always some smart ass in the office
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillG View Post
    There's always some smart ass in the office
    Just wish I was as smart.
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    Probably just the moderators .
    Blessings
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    God's Grace is sufficient.

    God wants full custody of your children.
    Not just weekend visits.

    We are entertaining the goats while we should be feeding the sheep.
    Charles Spurgeon

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillG View Post
    Just wish I was as smart.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laish View Post
    Probably just the moderators .
    Blessings
    Bill
    Gasp two Bills!
    Joefizz- king of randomness -making others laugh is his hobby.

    I'm a smart idiot that serves God and I'm determined to keep to a future I believe in and trolls don't like me.

    If you don't believe in true love then please don't tell me not to believe in it because I believe it to be real.

    You are perfect?
    self righteousness is as filthy rags the bible says.
    You might wanna reconsider that ideal.

    We are all family in God's eyes,so please at least try to get along,sincerely, a child of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laish View Post
    Probably just the moderators .
    Blessings
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    hahaha you caught my follow up before i deleted it

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