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Hi Incognito, you've been here on Christianchat for 3 full days, I would recommend that you try to make friends first before asking someone if they are "Satan" or maybe you just like to disrupt a peaceful Christian forum. Make friends first.
I don't know about YOU but I tell my "friends" TRUTH!

I work for GOD and if HE SAYS then I say!
 

LW97

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salvation depends on God, fellowship on us

 
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Ariel82

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Don't know about you but my salvation depends upon Jesus because if it depended upon me, then I am already sunk.
 

Shamah

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GOOD GRIEF!

[video=youtube;bmATcGJ3uJE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmATcGJ3uJE[/video]



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAM9zWbbOc8
Yah can proptec anyone from anything He choses, however the ver "tead on poision sknkws" is added to the word, it is a forgery... Also going out of onw whay to be in harm is testing Yah IMO.
 
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Ariel82

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I have found that people often allow whispers and lies to separate then from the flock. Wolves will lure a lone sheep away for the slaughter.

A common appeal is to their pride...to tell them they have secret wisdom that others don't and make them feel superior or distrusting or others.

It's sad to see.

All one can say is don't wander away with the shining stranger and then pray.
 

Shamah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 6:46, “But why do you call Me ‘Master, Master,’ and do not do what I say?”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 12:25-26, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it remains alone. But if it dies, it bears much fruit. He who loves his life shall lose it, and he who hates his life in this world shall preserve it for everlasting life." Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.”
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 3:36, “He who believes in the Son possesses everlasting life, but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of Yah remains on him.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 5:28-30, “Do not be astonished at this-for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice, and will come forth. Those who have practiced righteousness will be resurrected in order to live; and those who have practiced wickedness will be resurrected in order to be damned."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 16:27, “For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His malakim; and then He will reward every man according to his works."

I know many disagree wit the Messiah, but those are His words, He is the One we MUST OBEY according to the Word;
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Shamah

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He is the SENT ONE we MUST OBEY:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 7:37-38, “This is the Mosheh who said to the children of Yisra’yl, ‘יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Mighty One shall raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brothers. Him you shall hear.’ This is he who was in the assembly in the wilderness with the Messenger who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers, who received the living Words to give to us.”[/FONT][/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 5:46-47, "For had you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, for he wrote about Me*. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"

*Mosheh wrote:

Deuteronomy 18:18-19, “I (YHWH) will raise up for them a Prophet (Yahshua/Jesus) like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it.”

"listen" is word #8085 - שָׁמַע[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]shama` {shaw-mah'}

Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1) to hear, listen to, obey[/FONT][/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 12:48, “He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 3:22-23, “For Mosheh truly said to the fathers, ‘יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Mighty One shall raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brothers. Him you shall hear according to all matters, whatever He says to you. And it shall be that every being who does not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.”[/FONT][/FONT]
 
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joefizz

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I have found that people often allow whispers and lies to separate then from the flock. Wolves will lure a lone sheep away for the slaughter.

A common appeal is to their pride...to tell them they have secret wisdom that others don't and make them feel superior or distrusting or others.

It's sad to see.

All one can say is don't wander away with the shining stranger and then pray.
Yes secret wisdom that they don't "keep a secret" unfortunately lol.
 
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joefizz

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Well this a first!
For once it's not "crowded" in here observe the list of names not there!
 

BillG

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"Salvation" as HE SAID depends on us (Mk 16:26-20; I Corinthians 12:7-10;13; Acts 1:5; 8), then you can have "fellowship with GOD!"
Sorry not getting the point based on the verses you quoted above.

What is Mk 16:26-20?

1 Corinthians 12:7-10
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: 8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, 10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.

1 Corinthians 12:13
13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit.

Acts 1:5
5 for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”

Acts 1:8
8 But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”

I can't see how salvation depends on us given the above verses.

Am I missing something?
 

VCO

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Why would you call someone a "troll" when they give THE WORD OF GOD? I'm just repeating what GOD SAID and because your VICEGERENT has NEVER taught you TRUTH you call GOD "a troll!"

Didn't GOD SAY "one baptism" (Ephesians 4:5)?

Then why do you call HIM "A LIAR" and say TWO?

Does that make sense?

Yet *I* am "the troll?"

What do you think GOD SAYS about that?

Ephesians 4:5 (HCSB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] one Lord, one faith, one baptism,

I have already explained the ONE BAPTISM, and it is not Christian Water BAPTISM.

It is Spiritual BAPTISM, where the Holy Spirit IMMERSES you into the Spiritual Body of Christ.


Galatians 3:27 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.


ALL OF YOU did not include Christian water Baptism of the THIEF ON THE CROSS, and so is every other deathbed confession.

HOWEVER,
all of you DOES INCLUDE IMMERSION INTO THE SPIRITUAL BODY OF CHRIST.


1 Corinthians 12:13 (NKJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--
whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit.
Colossians 1:18 (HCSB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] He is also the head of the body, the church; He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He might come to have first place in everything.

Colossians 1:18 (YLT)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] And himself is the head of the body--the assembly--who is a beginning, a first-born out of the dead, that he might become in all things --himself--first,

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NOW,
JUST IN CASE YOU WERE SERIOUS:


Acts 28:3-5 (HCSB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] As Paul gathered a bundle of brushwood and put it on the fire, a viper came out because of the heat and fastened itself to his hand.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] When the local people saw the creature hanging from his hand, they said to one another, “This man is probably a murderer, and though he has escaped the sea, Justice does not allow him to live!”
[SUP]5 [/SUP] However, he shook the creature off into the fire and suffered no harm.


Paul was accidentally bitten, HE DID NOT DELIBERATELY PUT HIMSELF IN HARMS WAY AS THE APPALACHIAN PENTECOSTAL CHURCH DOES. GOD FORBID PEOPLE TO DELIBERATELY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARMS WAY TO TEST GOD, as JESUS HIMSELF was the Example.


Luke 4:9-12 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] So he took Him to Jerusalem, had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down from here.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For it is written: He will give His angels orders concerning you, to protect you,
[SUP]11 [/SUP] and they will support you with their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.”
[SUP]12 [/SUP] And Jesus answered him, “It is said: Do not test the Lord your God.”
 

Studyman

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Yah can proptec anyone from anything He choses, however the ver "tead on poision sknkws" is added to the word, it is a forgery... Also going out of onw whay to be in harm is testing Yah IMO.
Very good point Shamah,

Hits me between my eyes.

thank You.
 
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joefizz

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Sorry not getting the point based on the verses you quoted above.

What is Mk 16:26-20?

1 Corinthians 12:7-10
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: 8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, 10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.

1 Corinthians 12:13
13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit.

Acts 1:5
5 for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”

Acts 1:8
8 But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”

I can't see how salvation depends on us given the above verses.

Am I missing something?
(mortal kombat? couldn't resist lol)
 

BillG

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I don't know about YOU but I tell my "friends" TRUTH!

I work for GOD and if HE SAYS then I say!
Does not everyone here do the same.
After all why post something that you do not believe to be the truth?

The only reason to do so would be to sow discord.

Not saying you are doing so but just want to make the point that how one interprets scripture may be different from someone else.
 
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joefizz

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Does not everyone here do the same.
After all why post something that you do but believe to be the truth?

The only reason to do so would be to sow discord.

Not saying you are doing so but just want to make the point that how one interprets scripture may be different from someone else.
No kidding precisely why we have to always "include" God in our findings and posts.