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GOD is your HELPER!:)
So sad. Someone who calls herself a christian and can't understand simple humor and comic relief. That is the work of a true christian.... bringing peace tova place of argument and indeed God is his helper. He is our helper
 
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In Internet Slang, a "troll" is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion, often for the troll's amusement.

BETTER YET!

A PERSON THAT "GOD HATES"

"A PROUD LOOK, A LYING TONGUE, AND HANDS THAT SHED INNOCENT BLOOD, AN HEART THAT DEVISETH WICKED IMAGINATIONS, FEET THAT BE SWIFT IN RUNNING TO MISCHIEF, A FALSE WITNESS THAT SPEAKETH LIES, AND HE THAT SOWETH DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN" (PROVERBS 6:17-19)!

I GIVE WORD!

WHAT DID YOU GIVE?

SOMETHING THAT SAYS "GOD'S WORD IS A TROLL?"

"BLASPHEMY" (MATTHEW 12:31-32)!
 

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You poor thing!

GOD LOVES JUDGMENT!

I Peter 4:17 "For the time is come that JUDGMENT must began at the house of GOD: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that OBEY NOT the gospel of GOD?"

not sure how to get that He loves judgement just because there is a time for it ?

it His strange work, Isaiah 28 -- He is just, and will not leave justice undone, yet desires mercy rather than sacrifice. He longed to gather them under His wing, but they would not.
 

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You poor thing!

GOD LOVES JUDGMENT!

I Peter 4:17 "For the time is come that JUDGMENT must began at the house of GOD: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that OBEY NOT the gospel of GOD?"

I want to be JUDGED according to HIS WORD! I JUDGE myself according to HIS WORD!

I Corinthians 6:3 "Know ye not that we shall JUDGE ANGELS? how much more things that pertain to this life?"

What you've been TAUGHT as being "Religiously correct" is what you don't see!

I OBEY THE WORD OF GOD!

Did you see GOD SAY "JUDGE?"

Sound like that's not what RELIGION has taught you!

I GIVE TRUTH!

I GIVE WORD!
Look, for someone who is unsure about her spiritual status... i suggest you stop criticising people and take a time for yourself to think and allow God to truly talk to you instead of making youraelf a troll in this place.. and tbh i have no idea what you posted.... i can't understand really... did God say judge as in?
 
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So sad. Someone who calls herself a christian and can't understand simple humor and comic relief. That is the work of a true christian.... bringing peace tova place of argument and indeed God is his helper. He is our helper
I LIKE "THE JOKSTER!"
 

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WERE YOU SENT BY GOD?

Luke 6:43-45 A Tree and Its Fruit “No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. FOR OUT OF THE OVERFLOW OF HIS HEART , HIS MOUTH SPEAKS..

WHO ARE CLAIMING TO BE “STILL SINNERS” OUT OF THE OVERFLOW OF THEIR HEART???

John 3:34 For the one whom GOD HAS SENT speaks the words of God,
for God gives the Spirit without limit.



This thread and it’s author implies that there’s no need for works to a FAITH ALONE that SAVES(faith void of works).

SALVATION IS NOT BY WORKS IF IT’S APART FROM FAITH (eph 2:8-9) JUST AS FAITH ALONE APART FROM WORKS OF LOVE,OBEDIENCE AND FAITH IS DEAD (james 2:14-26)

IF WE ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST WHOM HE WILL SAVE (eph 5:23) AREN’T WE EXPECTED TO OBEY HIS COMMANDS (john 14:12-15)AND DO HIS WORKS OF SALVATION (1cor 3:9, 12:28 mat 25:21-30, 9:37-38 eph 4:12-13, rom 12: 3-8, 1 tim 4:16) AS WE ARE TO DO HIS WILL HERE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN (mat 6:10)

John 4:34-38 “My food,” said Jesus, “is TO DO THE WILL OF HIM WHO SENT ME AND TO FINISH HIS WORK. Do you not say, ‘Four months more and then the harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. Even now the reaper draws his wages, even now HE HARVESTS THE CROP FOR ETERNAL LIFE, so that the sower and the reaper may be GLAD TOGETHER. Thus the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true. I SENT YOU to reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and YOU HAVE REAPED THE BENEFITS OF THEIR LABOR.”

John 5:36 “I have testimony weightier than that of John. For the very work that the Father has given me to finish, and WHICH I AM DOING, TESTIFIES that the Father has SENT me.

John 6:39-40 And this is the will of him who SENT me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and BELIEVES IN HIM, SHALL HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, and I will raise him up at the last day.”

John 7:18 HE WHO SPEAKS ON HIS OWN does so to gain honor for himself, but HE WHO WORKS FOR THE HONOR OF THE ONE WHO SENT HIM IS A MAN OF TRUTH; there is nothing false about him.

John 9:4-5 As long as it is day, WE MUST DO THE WORK OF HIM WHO SENT ME. Night is coming, when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”

John 17:18 As you sent me into the world, I have SENT THEM into the world.

John 20:21-22 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I AM SENDING YOU.” And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 28:19-20 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and TEACHING THEM TO OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

ONE SURE WAY TO RECOGNIZE THOSE WHO WERE NOT SENT ACCORDING TO THE VERSES ABOVE IS TO KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

DO THEY PREACH AGAINST THE WORKS THAT GOD HAS PREPARED IN ADVANCE FOR US TO DO BY SAYING THAT: “FAITH ALONE SAVES AND IT IS VOID OF WORKS.”?

DO THEY PREACH THAT; “WORKS ARE WORKS ARE WORKS.”?
THAT OBEDIENCE TO GOD’S COMMANDMENTS CANNOT SAVE EVEN THOSE BELIEVERS WHO CONFESS WITH THEIR MOUTHS THAT JESUS IS LORD AND BELIEVE IN THEIR HEARTS THAT GOD RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD.

DO THEY PREACH THAT SINCE THEY WERE ALREADY SAVED, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE SAVED REGARDLESS OF THEIR WILLFUL AND CONTINUOUS SINNING(manifested by their arguments against those who push for continuous faith and are against willful sinning).

DO THEY PROMOTE SIN BY SAYING THAT THOSE WHO ARE CLAIMING THAT THOSE BORN AGAIN IN THE SPIRIT IS A NEW CREATION AND THEREFORE MUST NOT SIN OR CEASE FROM SINNING, ARE LIARS ACCDG. TO 1JOHN 1:8 WHICH THEY LOVE TO QUOTE BUT REJECTING THE WHOLE TRUTH EXPRESSED IN THE BIBLE? WHICH ONLY PROVES THIS VERSES BELOW TO BE TRUE:

Romans 8:5-9 Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds SET ON WHAT THE SPIRIT DESIRES. The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. IT DOES NOT SUBMIT TO GOD’S LAW, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God. You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, HE DOES NOT BELONG TO CHRIST.

WOULD THE SPIRIT OF GOD DESIRE SIN?

Galatians 2:17-18 “If, while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes EVIDENT that we ourselves are SINNERS, does that mean that Christ PROMOTES SIN? Absolutely not! If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker.

Romans 6:15 What then? SHALL WE SIN because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!

1 Corinthians 6:17 But he who unites himself with the Lord is ONE WITH HIM IN SPIRIT.

John 16:13 But when he, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11,15-20 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? DO NOT BE DECEIVED: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. AND THAT IS WHAT SOME OF YOU WERE. But you were WASHED, you were SANCTIFIED, you were JUSTIFIED in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

Galatians 6:7-8 DO NOT BE DECEIVED, GOD CANNOT BE MOCKED. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

1 John 2:3-6 We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.

John 14:31 but the world must learn that I love the Father and that I DO EXACTLY WHAT .MY FATHER HAS COMMANDED ME. “Come now; let us leave.

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were STILL SINNERS, Christ died for us.

Romans 6:21-23 What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ASHAMED OF? Those things result in death! But NOW that you have been SET FREE FROM SIN and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to HOLINESS, and the result is ETERNAL LIFE. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life IN CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD.

Romans 1:32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only CONTINUE TO DO these very things but also APPROVE of those who practice them.

John 15:22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin.

Psalm 49:13-14 This is the fate of those who trust in themselves, and of THEIR FOLLOWERS, who APPROVE their sayings. Selah Like sheep they are destined for the grave, and death will feed on them. The upright will rule over them in the morning; their forms will decay in the grave, far from their princely mansions.

THEREFORE:

Romans 10:14-15 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? AND HOW CAN THEY PREACH UNLESS THEY ARE SENT? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”
 
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You're not "agreeing with *me*, I GIVE WORD and either you AGREE WITH GOD or go; in "UNBELIEF" (Hebrews 3:19)!
Agreeing with you and agreeing with God are not one in the same, dear. And please, you really need to lay off the exclamation point key. :D

Baptized by the Holy Spirit with dreams following (Daniel 4; Isaiah 61)!
You're taking Scripture out of context.

Have "Spiritual gifts" of "laying on of hands, tongues, and wisdom and knowledge" in HIS WORD!

Speaks to me DIRECTLY (Jeremiah 31:34) giving word "Inhabicommunicable" - GOOGLE!
I googled it, and you've misspelled your gift.

Show me things to come!
OK, since I live in the Show Me State. Hmmmm. A vanishing act? :p

I don't know if this counts (I Can't remember ALL the benefits) but yesterday my girls took the kid's bike to the bicycle repairman who lives around the corner and I told her before she left "Joe might be dead because he is an old man" (around 75)! When she returned she said "Mama the house was locked and a sign on the door that said "Joe DOB/DOD"
WOW! A miracle! So exciting! Wait...never mind...

1) Do you think you killed Joe right then and there with your words?

2) You said he might be dead, not he is dead, thus you didn't perform a sign, wonder, miracle or prophesy.

3) If I say "There might be one more cold Coke left in the fridge" and go check, and there is, I didn't perform a miracle.

It's too many things to remember! Everyday things! They come so frequently they're just a part of life now!
No no, dear. Tell us more. You're just being bashful. They happen so often, as you say, please tell us many more. Like start with maybe 10?

JESUS IS ALIVE! JESUS IS WORKING! JESUS IS REAL!
Yes.

Matthew 11:25 "I thank thee, O Father, LORD of heaven and earth, because thou hast HID these things from the wise and the prudent, and REVEALED them unto babes."
What's the context of that passage in Matthew 11:25-30? Context shows us what the verse means. We should stick to context. Matthew 11:25: Is it about miracles? Signs? Wonders?

THANK YOU JESUS!
I agree.
 
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not sure how to get that He loves judgement just because there is a time for it ?

it His strange work, Isaiah 28 -- He is just, and will not leave justice undone, yet desires mercy rather than sacrifice. He longed to gather them under His wing, but they would not.
HE SURE WON'T "LEAVE JUSTICE UNDONE" FOR HE SENT ME TO "JUDGE" WITH HIS WORD!

"THE WAY OF PEACE THEY KNOW NOT; AND THERE IS NOT *JUDGMENT* IN THEIR GOINGS: THEY HAVE MADE CROOKED PATHS: WHOSOEVER GOETH THEREIN SHALL NOT KNOW PEACE" (ISAIAH 59:8)!

BLESSINGS:)
 
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Thank you Preacher; 4 days of her taking over this thread and every one is taking the bait, good grief. All we have heard from her for 4 days is insults and condemnation of the lovely brother's and sister's on this forum, just a shameless individual. If she has not been reported to the moderator's yet, I pray someone will. God bless you Preacher.
Good to see you brother TT. God bless!
 
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Agreeing with you and agreeing with God are not one in the same, dear. And please, you really need to lay off the exclamation point key. :D



You're taking Scripture out of context.



I googled it, and you've misspelled your gift.



OK, since I live in the Show Me State. Hmmmm. A vanishing act? :p



WOW! A miracle! So exciting! Wait...never mind...

1) Do you think you killed Joe right then and there with your words?

2) You said he might be dead, not he is dead, thus you didn't perform a sign, wonder, miracle or prophesy.

3) If I say "There might be one more cold Coke left in the fridge" and go check, and there is, I didn't perform a miracle.



No no, dear. Tell us more. You're just being bashful. They happen so often, as you say, please tell us many more. Like start with maybe 10?



Yes.
Matthew 11:25 "I thank thee, O Father, LORD of heaven and earth, because thou hast HID these things from the wise and the prudent, and REVEALED them unto babes."[/quote]

What's the context of that passage in Matthew 11:25-30? Context shows us what the verse means. We should stick to context. Matthew 11:25: Is it about miracles? Signs? Wonders?



I agree.[/QUOTE]

GOD "HATES" MESS AND YOU'RE A MESS (PROVERBS 6:16-19)!
 
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GOD "HATES" MESS AND YOU'RE A MESS (PROVERBS 6:16-19)!
Oh, I see. The passage in Matthew there means that God hates me? I never knew that. Does that make you happy?

Allow me to ask; are you here because you wish to see others burn in hell, or are you here to win others to Christ?
 

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Matthew 11:25 "I thank thee, O Father, LORD of heaven and earth, because thou hast HID these things from the wise and the prudent, and REVEALED them unto babes."
What's the context of that passage in Matthew 11:25-30? Context shows us what the verse means. We should stick to context. Matthew 11:25: Is it about miracles? Signs? Wonders?



I agree.[/QUOTE]

GOD "HATES" MESS AND YOU'RE A MESS (PROVERBS 6:16-19)![/QUOTE]

So you're saying God hates him?
 

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HE SURE WON'T "LEAVE JUSTICE UNDONE" FOR HE SENT ME TO "JUDGE" WITH HIS WORD!

"THE WAY OF PEACE THEY KNOW NOT; AND THERE IS NOT *JUDGMENT* IN THEIR GOINGS: THEY HAVE MADE CROOKED PATHS: WHOSOEVER GOETH THEREIN SHALL NOT KNOW PEACE" (ISAIAH 59:8)!

BLESSINGS:)
Woman! What part of the bible does it say that God uses human to judge? How can flesh judge flesh? If he sent human to judge what's the point of the judgement day and it means you're equal with God cause only God can judge and you being given the task of judging others makes you equal with God.
I can clearly rember jesus telling his disciples to go into the world and preach the gospel and baptize men with the holy spirit. He didn't say go into the world and judge men of their iniquities neither did he say baptize men with the holy spirit and judge does that do not.
 
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Are you okay? :confused:

Your posts are very worrisome.

HE SURE WON'T "LEAVE JUSTICE UNDONE" FOR HE SENT ME TO "JUDGE" WITH HIS WORD!

"THE WAY OF PEACE THEY KNOW NOT; AND THERE IS NOT *JUDGMENT* IN THEIR GOINGS: THEY HAVE MADE CROOKED PATHS: WHOSOEVER GOETH THEREIN SHALL NOT KNOW PEACE" (ISAIAH 59:8)!

BLESSINGS:)
 
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originally posted by Seohce


WERE YOU SENT BY GOD?

Luke 6:43-45 A Tree and Its Fruit “No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. FOR OUT OF THE OVERFLOW OF HIS HEART , HIS MOUTH SPEAKS..

WHO ARE CLAIMING TO BE “STILL SINNERS” OUT OF THE OVERFLOW OF THEIR HEART???

John 3:34 For the one whom GOD HAS SENT speaks the words of God,
for God gives the Spirit without limit.



This thread and it’s author implies that there’s no need for works to a FAITH ALONE that SAVES(faith void of works).

SALVATION IS NOT BY WORKS IF IT’S APART FROM FAITH (eph 2:8-9) JUST AS FAITH ALONE APART FROM WORKS OF LOVE,OBEDIENCE AND FAITH IS DEAD (james 2:14-26)

IF WE ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST WHOM HE WILL SAVE (eph 5:23) AREN’T WE EXPECTED TO OBEY HIS COMMANDS (john 14:12-15)AND DO HIS WORKS OF SALVATION (1cor 3:9, 12:28 mat 25:21-30, 9:37-38 eph 4:12-13, rom 12: 3-8, 1 tim 4:16) AS WE ARE TO DO HIS WILL HERE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN (mat 6:10)

John 4:34-38 “My food,” said Jesus, “is TO DO THE WILL OF HIM WHO SENT ME AND TO FINISH HIS WORK. Do you not say, ‘Four months more and then the harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. Even now the reaper draws his wages, even now HE HARVESTS THE CROP FOR ETERNAL LIFE, so that the sower and the reaper may be GLAD TOGETHER. Thus the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true. I SENT YOU to reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and YOU HAVE REAPED THE BENEFITS OF THEIR LABOR.”

John 5:36 “I have testimony weightier than that of John. For the very work that the Father has given me to finish, and WHICH I AM DOING, TESTIFIES that the Father has SENT me.

John 6:39-40 And this is the will of him who SENT me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and BELIEVES IN HIM, SHALL HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, and I will raise him up at the last day.”

John 7:18 HE WHO SPEAKS ON HIS OWN does so to gain honor for himself, but HE WHO WORKS FOR THE HONOR OF THE ONE WHO SENT HIM IS A MAN OF TRUTH; there is nothing false about him.

John 9:4-5 As long as it is day, WE MUST DO THE WORK OF HIM WHO SENT ME. Night is coming, when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”

John 17:18 As you sent me into the world, I have SENT THEM into the world.

John 20:21-22 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I AM SENDING YOU.” And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 28:19-20 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and TEACHING THEM TO OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

ONE SURE WAY TO RECOGNIZE THOSE WHO WERE NOT SENT ACCORDING TO THE VERSES ABOVE IS TO KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

DO THEY PREACH AGAINST THE WORKS THAT GOD HAS PREPARED IN ADVANCE FOR US TO DO BY SAYING THAT: “FAITH ALONE SAVES AND IT IS VOID OF WORKS.”?

DO THEY PREACH THAT; “WORKS ARE WORKS ARE WORKS.”?
THAT OBEDIENCE TO GOD’S COMMANDMENTS CANNOT SAVE EVEN THOSE BELIEVERS WHO CONFESS WITH THEIR MOUTHS THAT JESUS IS LORD AND BELIEVE IN THEIR HEARTS THAT GOD RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD.

DO THEY PREACH THAT SINCE THEY WERE ALREADY SAVED, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE SAVED REGARDLESS OF THEIR WILLFUL AND CONTINUOUS SINNING(manifested by their arguments against those who push for continuous faith and are against willful sinning).

DO THEY PROMOTE SIN BY SAYING THAT THOSE WHO ARE CLAIMING THAT THOSE BORN AGAIN IN THE SPIRIT IS A NEW CREATION AND THEREFORE MUST NOT SIN OR CEASE FROM SINNING, ARE LIARS ACCDG. TO 1JOHN 1:8 WHICH THEY LOVE TO QUOTE BUT REJECTING THE WHOLE TRUTH EXPRESSED IN THE BIBLE? WHICH ONLY PROVES THIS VERSES BELOW TO BE TRUE:

Romans 8:5-9 Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds SET ON WHAT THE SPIRIT DESIRES. The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. IT DOES NOT SUBMIT TO GOD’S LAW, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God. You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, HE DOES NOT BELONG TO CHRIST.

WOULD THE SPIRIT OF GOD DESIRE SIN?

Galatians 2:17-18 “If, while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes EVIDENT that we ourselves are SINNERS, does that mean that Christ PROMOTES SIN? Absolutely not! If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker.

Romans 6:15 What then? SHALL WE SIN because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!

1 Corinthians 6:17 But he who unites himself with the Lord is ONE WITH HIM IN SPIRIT.

John 16:13 But when he, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11,15-20 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? DO NOT BE DECEIVED: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. AND THAT IS WHAT SOME OF YOU WERE. But you were WASHED, you were SANCTIFIED, you were JUSTIFIED in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

Galatians 6:7-8 DO NOT BE DECEIVED, GOD CANNOT BE MOCKED. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

1 John 2:3-6 We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.

John 14:31 but the world must learn that I love the Father and that I DO EXACTLY WHAT .MY FATHER HAS COMMANDED ME. “Come now; let us leave.

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were STILL SINNERS, Christ died for us.

Romans 6:21-23 What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ASHAMED OF? Those things result in death! But NOW that you have been SET FREE FROM SIN and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to HOLINESS, and the result is ETERNAL LIFE. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life IN CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD.

Romans 1:32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only CONTINUE TO DO these very things but also APPROVE of those who practice them.

John 15:22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin.

Psalm 49:13-14 This is the fate of those who trust in themselves, and of THEIR FOLLOWERS, who APPROVE their sayings. Selah Like sheep they are destined for the grave, and death will feed on them. The upright will rule over them in the morning; their forms will decay in the grave, far from their princely mansions.

THEREFORE:

Romans 10:14-15 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? AND HOW CAN THEY PREACH UNLESS THEY ARE SENT? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”
Why do you give "a sermon" and HALF the Scriptures you give DON'T APPLY TO one who hasn't ACTUALLY been filled by the Holy Spirit the way JESUS SAID (Mark 16:16-20; I Corinthians 12:7-10; 13; Acts 1:5; 8)?

"A Tree" is one that has been planted by the Holy Spirit [baptism] with "GOD [not you] WORKING IN THEM" (Philippians 2:13)

Therefore, John 3:34 DOESN'T APPLY!

Ephesians 2:8-9 DOESN'T APPLY; JAMES 2:14-26; JOHN 14:12-15; I COR 3:9; 12:28; MATTHEW 25:21-30; 9:37-38; EPHESIANS 4:12-13; ROMANS 12:3-8; I TIMOTHY 4:16; MATTHEW 6:10; JOHN 4:34-38; 5:36; 6:39-40; 7:18; 9:4-5; 17;18; 20:21-22; MATTHEW 28:19-20 (WHY IT DOESN'T APPLY); ROMANS 8:5-9; GALATIANS 2:17-18; ROMANS 6:15; I CORINTHIANS 6:17; JOHN 16:13; I CORINTHIANS 6:9-11; 15-20; GALATIANS 6:7-8; I JOHN 2:3-5 (APPLIES), JOHN 14:31; ROMANS 5:8; 6:21-23; 1:32;JOHN 15:22; PSALM 49:13-14 (APPLIES) NOR ROMANS 10:14-15 APPLIES!

YOU "FORGET!"

YOU HAVE TO BE "A MEMBER OF THE BODY OF CHRIST" (I CORINTHIANS 12) AND BAPTISM BY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS WHAT MAKES YOU "A MEMBER" BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE "LIKE JESUS SAID" (MARK 16:16-20; I CORINTHIANS 12:7-10; 13; ACTS 1:5; 8)!

UNTIL THEN, YOU'RE JUST GIVING "LIP SERVICE" (MATTHEW 5:8)!

I KEEP TELLING YOU "GOD WORKS IN US" (PHILIPPIANS 2:13) "PRODUCING OUR WORKS!" JESUS DIDN'T DO "ANYTHING" UNLESS HE HEARD FROM "THE FATHER" AND THAT'S THE WAY WE ARE!

TAKE ABRAHAM! HE "HEARD A WORD FROM GOD" TO GO "SACRIFICE ISSAC!" IT'S NOT SOMETHING *HE* THOUGHT OF BUT "HE HEARD A WORD FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT" IT IS *THEN* OR *AFTERWARDS* "HE WORKED!" THAT'S WHY "FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD!" YOU'VE GOT TO "HEAR" FROM GOD BEFORE YOU MOVE!

OUR JOB IS TO HAVE "FAITH" IN WHAT HE SAID SO INTENSELY UNTIL THE ACTIONS IS MANIFESTED! ABRAHAM HAD "FAITH" IN WHAT GOD HAD PREVIOUSLY TOLD HIM THAT "HIS SEED WOULD BE GREAT" AND THE ONLY WAY "HIS SEED WOULD BE GREAT" WAS THROUGH ISSAC! SO HE TOLD HIS WIFE "WE'LL BE BACK!"

NOW THAT'S FAITH! ABRAHAM DID WHAT GOD SAID BECAUSE HE *KNEW* GOD WOULD PROVIDE "A RAM IN THE BUSH" FOR SACRIFICE!

WE HEAR, BELIEVE, HAVE FAITH, AND IT'S MANIFESTED!

THAT'S "OUR" WORKS!
 

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Good to see you brother TT. God bless!
Thanks Preacher I'm doin' okay and I put this post on report for being rude and obscene. The question, "are you Satan?" was directed at poster Budman. No one should have to be subject to these types of obscenities, just shameful.

Be well my friend.....:)

From thread; Not by works: Post #61167
"Are you Satan?" I Cor 10:21 and I Thess 5:19!
When you don't know if Holy Spirit sent or not, it's best you be quite!
 
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Woman! What part of the bible does it say that God uses human to judge? How can flesh judge flesh? If he sent human to judge what's the point of the judgement day and it means you're equal with God cause only God can judge and you being given the task of judging others makes you equal with God.
I can clearly rember jesus telling his disciples to go into the world and preach the gospel and baptize men with the holy spirit. He didn't say go into the world and judge men of their iniquities neither did he say baptize men with the holy spirit and judge does that do not.
What?

How can A MAN "baptize another with the Holy Spirit?" What is wrong with you?

THE SPIRIT works THROUGH an individual and it's NOT THEM; BUT GOD!

Let me give you some Scriptures to read; re: JUDGMENT!

I guess you FORGOT there is a Book called JUDGES?

"The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment." (Psa. 37:30).

Amos 5:14-15; I Cor 1:10; 2:15; 6:3;

There are too MANY to list!

GOOGLE "Is it right to judge" for scriptures!

Matthew 7:1 has been TAUGHT as a LIE because it's an IMPERATIVE SENTENCE meaning "YOU" judge not but we are to JUDGE WITH HIS WORD or else we can't tell anyone about their UNRIGHTEOUSNESS according to what GOD SAID!
 
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"Blessed and Highly Favoured" you say...... and sent by GOD my, my... such a high calling ... well having read all your posts.... I am still wondering if you are okay?

I am concerned that you have fallen for some false teacher?


You've never known one "SENT" (Romans 10:14-15) by GOD; that's why!

I'm BLESSED AND HIGHLY FAVORED! Thank you!:)