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    And there you go again..proving my point.. Actually, I DON'T hate what you share on here. I enjoy reading your posts, but what I DON'T like is the way they are conveyed.. that's all.. And that is something that we ALL could work on, right?

    You ask if I'm content to stay as I am right now. My answer to that is NO. I'm not content at all with where I am right now. :/ I have MANY, MANY things to work on, to get myself back on the path with God. I've never denied that. Some people just move slower than others. And with a broken back, I'm moving more like a turtle, rather than a ladybug. LOL

    I've had many people here tell me that I'm an inspiration to them, but ya know what? I don't feel like a very inspiring (or inspired) person. So I am always amazed and humbled when someone tells me that they read a post or testimony of mine, and it helped them. However, as inspiring as I may be, it's not of MY own accord. It's because of GOD.


    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJens View Post
    blue - you hate what I share, it is obvious.
    I just share from my heart of how I feel about God.

    I do not know what you are in your own walk with Christ. If you are confessing sin
    about swearing, anger, lust, what am I meant to say? I have the same issues and
    react in the same way. I have to deal with the same triggers but I do deal with it
    differently.

    I am not being superior or judgmental. Do you expect to stay as you are till the
    day you die? I am always addressing things in my life and working on different
    things. It is just what for me it means to walk with Christ.

    Now if I was the only one who truly knew Christ I would be heart broken, on a
    christian web site, it would be a denial of my faith in God himself.

    I am sure you know Christ, and you have been a blessing to many, so I would
    desire to encourage you in your walk. There is always more in Christ than we
    can even imagine or think about

    Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us
    Eph 3:20





    Quote Originally Posted by pottersclay View Post
    Blue_ladybug is innocent, as we know in scripture " all people who like orange tabbies are innocent."
    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    LOL.. I'll use that defense the next time I get accused of something.. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJens View Post
    I do that for an hour at the beginning of the day, I was just not including everything, lol.
    I figured you probably did, lol..just being helpful.,,looking for that lost something....

    Seems like a lot.,wonder how you find so much time on here...

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    What exactly do you do in that hour? I try to do it, but get distracted after literally two seconds.. :/


    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJens View Post
    I do that for an hour at the beginning of the day, I was just not including everything, lol.





    Quote Originally Posted by pottersclay View Post
    Blue_ladybug is innocent, as we know in scripture " all people who like orange tabbies are innocent."
    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    LOL.. I'll use that defense the next time I get accused of something.. lol


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    A spirit of criticism

    It is easy to take a few lines of contribution and spin some negative take on it.
    What are we commanded to do.

    Therefore encourage one another and build each other up
    1 Thessalonians 5:11

    My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ
    Col 2:2

    Finally, brothers and sisters, rejoice! Strive for full restoration, encourage one another, be of one mind, live in peace.
    2 Cor 13:11

    So encourage one another in the love we have for Christ, and not
    continually look for things to pull others apart on.

    It would seem people would rejoice in a totally lost sinner than
    a redeemed saint, go figure.
    I share "Jesus Christ and him crucified" 1 cor 2:2
    "He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." 1 cor 15:57

    The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    And there you go again..proving my point.. Actually, I DON'T hate what you share on here. I enjoy reading your posts, but what I DON'T like is the way they are conveyed.. that's all.. And that is something that we ALL could work on, right?

    You ask if I'm content to stay as I am right now. My answer to that is NO. I'm not content at all with where I am right now. :/ I have MANY, MANY things to work on, to get myself back on the path with God. I've never denied that. Some people just move slower than others. And with a broken back, I'm moving more like a turtle, rather than a ladybug. LOL

    I've had many people here tell me that I'm an inspiration to them, but ya know what? I don't feel like a very inspiring (or inspired) person. So I am always amazed and humbled when someone tells me that they read a post or testimony of mine, and it helped them. However, as inspiring as I may be, it's not of MY own accord. It's because of GOD.
    1. You're an inspiration to many? Do I detect pride???

    2. You have to work on yourself because you fall short?
    Oh. I thought it was Jesus WORKING THROUGH YOU. So He must have failed terribly.
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    I think people are finding it hard to accept things from a behavior that slanders some one - calls them names like heretic, satanic, disobedience to Jesus. haters of God's word and hater of those that say we are to walk righteously....and other such garbage.

    Then in the next breath say "we are to walk righteously and with purity of heart."

    James 3:8-10 (NASB)
    8 But no one can tame the tongue; it is a restless evil and full of deadly poison.

    9 With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the likeness of God;

    10 from the same mouth come both blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be this way.
    The new man in Christ - the new creation that is created in righteousness and

    holiness hears the heart voice of the Spirit and not an old head noise of the letter

    of the word. The Pharisees knew "bible knowledge" but they did not

    know God's heart and so they erred in really understanding what the

    scriptures were saying.


    The Lord wants us to look through His eyes and to live from His heart towards

    people, towards Him and towards ourselves as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJens View Post
    I like your style, defame others before the have a chance to respond.
    Works are irrelevant, so if you got assaulted by a brother you would forgive
    them and forget about it? Or if a sister became a prostitute, no problems, there
    heart was in the right place.

    You do not know the kingdom if you cannot uphold Gods will and call evil evil
    acts. Lawlessness has always been the enemy of the kingdom, but maybe one
    day you will see. I fear the hatred felt against people in their past will destroy their
    souls, and they will not know it.
    How does this relate to what Dcon said?

    Seems kind of extreme scarecrow making.

    1. How is he defaming anyone?

    2. Works are irrelevant TO SALVATION...because we are saved by grace thru faith in Jesus...however the Holy Spirit leads people to live godly lives.

    3.you wonder why folks get mad at you? Is cuz you accuse them of promoting sin and they consider that slander/libel.
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    FranC, Blue shared from her heart, why are you biting at her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    What exactly do you do in that hour? I try to do it, but get distracted after literally two seconds.. :/
    Have you ever had ADHD diagnosis or investigation done?
    If you cannot focus that quickly you may have some underlying condition.

    I spend most of my time reading scripture and getting a better understanding in my
    heart of what God has to say to me. I will spend time working through issues in my
    life, praying through people, and interactions which are troubling, where I want to see
    blessing etc. It varies depending on the day.

    I used to get distracted. It sometimes helped to work through the issues and put them
    into perspective, rather than fight them. If I am stressed, some things come more easily
    than others.
    blue_ladybug, FranC and Rosemaryx like this.
    I share "Jesus Christ and him crucified" 1 cor 2:2
    "He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." 1 cor 15:57

    The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel82 View Post
    FranC, Blue shared from her heart, why are you biting at her?
    Oh.
    It's just WHAT I FEEL LIKE DOING.

    You know, like instead of sitting here taking it, I've decided to give some back.
    Is it Christianly of me?
    I don't think so.

    But so what. We DO NOT HAVE TO DO WORKS.

    And God is WORKING THROUGH US, so if I mess up, it's really Jesus messing up.

    (this is what is being taught on this forum)
    Walk till you Run
    And don't look back
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel82 View Post
    How does this relate to what Dcon said?

    Seems kind of extreme scarecrow making.

    1. How is he defaming anyone?

    2. Works are irrelevant TO SALVATION...because we are saved by grace thru faith in Jesus...however the Holy Spirit leads people to live godly lives.

    3.you wonder why folks get mad at you? Is cuz you accuse them of promoting sin and they consider that slander/libel.
    Are you, like, the Mother Hen?

    You protect all your friends here?

    That's very nice of you.
    If we all acted like CHISTIANS ARE SUPPOSED TO ACT,
    NO ONE would need any protecting...


    Is this what you teach children?
    That they don't have to give GOD back anything in return?
    Maybe it'll make them feel like they could be promiscuous, or maybe try drugs, who knows what else these days.

    Maybe they'll watch Harry Potter and learn all about withcraft.
    Anyway, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO WORKS.
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    As usual, you assume too much. Read what I said AFTER I said that people say I'm an inspiration. I SAID I DON'T feel like an inspirational person. That is being humble, not prideful..


    And of course Jesus works through me. I've NEVER stated otherwise.. Just who do you think lifts me out of bed when my back is out? Hint: it's NOT ME


    But YOU sound prideful, when you make comments such as "I (meaning you) know the bible very well" and "you (meaning me) know NOTHING about Christianity and aren't very bible smart".. These are quotes of yours, Fran, and they reek of pride.. Or your comment to Magenta last night when you said "you should see how many likes I get".. And your comment to her today where you said "look what the cat dragged in".

    You talk about me and what my actions say. Look in the mirror, honey and take a look at what YOUR actions say. Because you have laid it all out on different threads here for everyone to see. And if your actions were kind and gentle, then someone wouldn't have sent Magenta a picture of a wolf in sheep's clothing and referred to it as you. :/


    Quote Originally Posted by FranC View Post
    1. You're an inspiration to many? Do I detect pride???

    2. You have to work on yourself because you fall short?
    Oh. I thought it was Jesus WORKING THROUGH YOU. So He must have failed terribly.





    Quote Originally Posted by pottersclay View Post
    Blue_ladybug is innocent, as we know in scripture " all people who like orange tabbies are innocent."
    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    LOL.. I'll use that defense the next time I get accused of something.. lol


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    Really y'all don't speak "Peternese" yet?..

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJens View Post
    smh - I have to admit, I do not like the constraints of language.

    The cross is everything, in Christ we see healing, eternity reflected in History, victory
    over sin, the eternal God made man, humbling Himself like no other being could that
    we might taste eternity and His heart.
    each of these words represent a different concept to Peter and you would have to go phrase by phrase to really get what he is saying.

    I could probably give scriptures to help understand what he means but it would be better for him to do his own homework...


    It is like the word love - a flimsy soppy sentimental love of dependency between two
    strangers who will never become one.
    how the world,defines love....

    Or is it the foundation of the universe which will conquer the heights and depths of creation,
    that mean we will die at the hands of evil people, but still praise the Lord who deems us worthy
    so share in His suffering without flinching or running away.
    how God defines love...

    So in all things what is the point, you do not have the skills or ability to find me or my knowledge
    of Christ my Lord.
    he expects to be misunderstood...


    And the thing is I am not worried, because you drive me deeper into His and
    His glorious riches, Amen, God bless you.
    He is gonna trust God instead of trying to explain himself...

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    No, I don't have ADHD.. lol.. It's just that I find reading the bible, boring after a few minutes, and my brain is focused on getting ready to do all of what I have to do.. Do you use study aids or anything?


    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJens View Post
    Have you ever had ADHD diagnosis or investigation done?
    If you cannot focus that quickly you may have some underlying condition.

    I spend most of my time reading scripture and getting a better understanding in my
    heart of what God has to say to me. I will spend time working through issues in my
    life, praying through people, and interactions which are troubling, where I want to see
    blessing etc. It varies depending on the day.

    I used to get distracted. It sometimes helped to work through the issues and put them
    into perspective, rather than fight them. If I am stressed, some things come more easily
    than others.





    Quote Originally Posted by pottersclay View Post
    Blue_ladybug is innocent, as we know in scripture " all people who like orange tabbies are innocent."
    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    LOL.. I'll use that defense the next time I get accused of something.. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    As usual, you assume too much. Read what I said AFTER I said that people say I'm an inspiration. I SAID I DON'T feel like an inspirational person. That is being humble, not prideful..


    And of course Jesus works through me. I've NEVER stated otherwise.. Just who do you think lifts me out of bed when my back is out? Hint: it's NOT ME


    But YOU sound prideful, when you make comments such as "I (meaning you) know the bible very well" and "you (meaning me) know NOTHING about Christianity and aren't very bible smart".. These are quotes of yours, Fran, and they reek of pride.. Or your comment to Magenta last night when you said "you should see how many likes I get".. And your comment to her today where you said "look what the cat dragged in".

    You talk about me and what my actions say. Look in the mirror, honey and take a look at what YOUR actions say. Because you have laid it all out on different threads here for everyone to see. And if your actions were kind and gentle, then someone wouldn't have sent Magenta a picture of a wolf in sheep's clothing and referred to it as you. :/
    Oh.
    Remind me to be worried about that wonderful image that wonderful Christian sent to Magenta and how wonderful it was for her to share.

    You know what should be shared on this thread?
    God's Love.

    Have you ever heard of it???


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    Quote Originally Posted by FranC View Post
    Oh.
    It's just WHAT I FEEL LIKE DOING.

    You know, like instead of sitting here taking it, I've decided to give some back.
    Is it Christianly of me?
    I don't think so.

    But so what. We DO NOT HAVE TO DO WORKS.

    And God is WORKING THROUGH US, so if I mess up, it's really Jesus messing up.

    (this is what is being taught on this forum)
    That is not being taught at all. THAT is a false straw man.
    .no one teaches that folks are robots or zombies being controlled by the Holy Ghost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    No, I don't have ADHD.. lol.. It's just that I find reading the bible, boring after a few minutes, and my brain is focused on getting ready to do all of what I have to do.. Do you use study aids or anything?
    You find the bible boring????
    No wonder you don't understand it.

    You should make an effort and ready it on your own.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FranC View Post
    Oh.
    Remind me to be worried about that wonderful image that wonderful Christian sent to Magenta and how wonderful it was for her to share.

    You know what should be shared on this thread?
    God's Love.

    Have you ever heard of it???
    You slammed me just yesterday for talking about God's love.

    Could you make up your mind? No? Okay, Fran, have your little hissy fit.
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    Fran, no one here is saying that we don't have to do works. Of course we do.

    But those works are not what saves us. GOD saves us. I don't know why you refuse to believe this.

    Of course Jesus works through us. The bible says, "For WITH God, nothing shall be impossible". It also says that WITHOUT God we are nothing and CAN DO nothing. That means we need Jesus' help every day, whether it's to get a tough chore done, or to get to a destination safely.

    Either you believe Jesus or you don't. And if you don't then you are lost. And you've made it obvious you don't believe Him, because you have admitted to us that you do NOT believe that works don't save us, you do NOT believe in eternal salvation, and you do NOT believe that God inspired men to write the bible. These are things that you have told us, so I'm not just assuming here.

    So what, if anything, DO you believe about Jesus?





    Quote Originally Posted by pottersclay View Post
    Blue_ladybug is innocent, as we know in scripture " all people who like orange tabbies are innocent."
    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    LOL.. I'll use that defense the next time I get accused of something.. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel82 View Post
    That is not being taught at all. THAT is a false straw man.
    .no one teaches that folks are robots or zombies being controlled by the Holy Ghost.
    Sure sounds like it.
    Do you read the posts here?

    This one's for you:



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