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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMBO43 View Post
    Do we yeah ha... I think youll find your in fantasy wonder land... propper english is all rite der mate.....
    That depends in what part of Blighty one lives in.

    But me thinks our American friends like the so called English accent.

    Maybe we should introduce them to the hard Glaswegian accent, or the scouser accent along with the geordie accent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJV1611 View Post
    Those verses don't address this - "Jesus chose us, because He knew we would choose Him."
    Dare I say it, but it is obvious is it not.
    God is not going to choose people who reject Him because that would be
    pointless. His whole reason for choosing people is because they will respond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magenta View Post
    Do you have pics?

    This is my daughter's pride and joy:


    Attachment 169914

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    Wow those are really nice pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJens View Post
    Dare I say it, but it is obvious is it not.
    God is not going to choose people who reject Him because that would be
    pointless. His whole reason for choosing people is because they will respond.
    Yes but we need to be careful not to judge those that we think will not come to Christ.
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    oooooo before i worked in a factory i was so happy
    Last edited by NoNameMcgee; 1 Week Ago at 05:14 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoNameMcgee View Post



    oooooo before i worked in a factory i was so happy
    oooh your so cute, what happened
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillG View Post
    oooh your so cute, what happened
    the factory......
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoNameMcgee View Post
    the factory......
    Very funny, me is laughing here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel82 View Post
    Wow those are really nice pictures.
    Thank you Ariel. Do you have any pets? My daughter loves her doggies She works as a vet assistant... when I was much younger, really quite young actually, I thought I wanted to work with animals, but it occurred to me eventually that being a vet or something similar would mean I was dealing with sick, injured, and dying animals, and I found that disturbing enough, that after three years of wanting to be a vet, I changed my mind at eight years old and decided to be a social worker. That sat well with me for about five more years, until around the age of thirteen, it was too apparent to me how messed up people were, and how powerless I was to fix them, so again I changed my vocational ideas were rearranged.

    I am really proud of my daughter for taking such good care of her pets. Maybe when I retire, and that gets closer all the time, I will work with sick and injured animals, helping to restore them to a healthy happy joy filled life where they are loved and cared for. I have seen many videos recently about animal rescues... this is one of my favourites... the shelter worker wrote and performed the song on this video story...





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    Quote Originally Posted by BillG View Post


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    1 Peter 4:17-19 For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And, “If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?” So then, those who suffer according to God’s will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJens View Post
    Dare I say it, but it is obvious is it not.
    God is not going to choose people who reject Him because that would be
    pointless. His whole reason for choosing people is because they will respond.
    No it's not obvious at all. God can and apparently did according to the bible, choose people and ORDAINED them to bring forth fruit.

    John 15:16 KJV
    Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

    Further, God chose us from the beginning FOR salvation by the sanctification of the spirit and BELIEF of the truth. Correct me with biblical evidence if I'm wrong, but we have NOTHING to do with our salvation. What are your thoughts? Did God choose us in his sovereign will or did we choose him?

    2 Thessalonians 2:13 KJV
    But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
    Psalm 12:6 KJV
    The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    More fallacy here in this post...WE are not doing anything...It is Jesus who is doing the works through us as a living sacrifice....exactly why ALL GLORY GOES TO GOD
    Its impossible to be doing nothing, your only fooling yourself....You understand partially Philippians 2-13, but ignore verse 12, both are active dynamics in salvation...its man WORKING TOGETHER with God to achieve a relationship of love that can by NO MEANS be achieved through any other fashion...The apostle Paul said on 3 occasions that we are workers together with HIM..
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    The avatars, videos, and pictures posted here are an indicator of the worldliness of many on this forum..

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    I didn't realise that the council of Trent was the Catholic response to the reformation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willybob View Post
    Its impossible to be doing nothing, your only fooling yourself....You understand partially Philippians 2-13, but ignore verse 12, both are active dynamics in salvation...its man WORKING TOGETHER with God to achieve a relationship of love that can by NO MEANS be achieved through any other fashion...The apostle Paul said on 3 occasions that we are workers together with HIM..
    In Philippians 2:12, notice that it says, "work out" your salvation not "work for" your salvation. This cannot refer to salvation by works (Ephesians 2:8-9), but it does refer to the believer's responsibility for active pursuit in the process of ongoing sanctification. Verse 13 continues, after a comma, "for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose."
    I'm not a bad guy. I'm just misunderstood.

    Galatians 6:14 - But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FranC View Post
    You see Dcon,
    here's your problem.
    You've become like a parrot --- you just keep repeating the same stuff over and over again.
    But do not supply any substance.
    I felt it was important to say this...

    Here's my post to which you're replying:

    Originally Posted by FranC View Post

    So you're answer is NO.
    We are NOT to do works.

    Then why did JESUS say this:

    John 15:14-15 Amplified Bible (AMP)

    14 You are my friends if you keep on doing what I command you.


    Now read your reply to me.

    I don't hear Jesus saying anything about salvation.
    I don't believe He ever said that word once. Could you post if He did?

    What He DID say was how we are to BEHAVE (haven't seen much good behavior here by a few)
    And how we are to DO (which means works)

    Mathew 5:2-10
    Mathew 5:2-11
    Mathew 6:48
    Mathew 7:5
    Mathew 7:21
    Mathew 7.24
    Mathew 15:11
    Mathew 19:28
    Mathew 22:21
    Mathew 22:37-40
    Mathew 25:35-36

    Jesus said:
    IF YOU KEEP ON DOING WHAT I COMMANDED YOU.

    This is a command. Not a request.
    It means if you don't do it.... Jesus will not be too pleased.

    You should read those verses.



    Kind of like you...continuing to spew a works based pseudo salvation that can be lost right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magenta View Post
    Her works here stink. So do yours. But you are blind. Oh well. Have fun in your ditch

    your disposition is distasteful, vexing of the spirit, while lacking temperance and self control..... out of the mouth speaketh the abundance of the heart,no?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willybob View Post
    Its impossible to be doing nothing, your only fooling yourself....You understand partially Philippians 2-13, but ignore verse 12, both are active dynamics in salvation...its man WORKING TOGETHER with God to achieve a relationship of love that can by NO MEANS be achieved through any other fashion...The apostle Paul said on 3 occasions that we are workers together with HIM..
    Not hardly pal...Jesus saves and then works through us as a living sacrifice.....the root produces the fruit not the branches....your false theology rejects the clear evidences from both Creation and the Word

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