Goat demons

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

marknoo

Junior Member
Sep 9, 2016
5
0
0
#1
I am trying figure out what is going on with non-Christian worship?

Leviticus 17:7
They shall no longer sacrifice their sacrifices to the [a]goat demons with which they play the harlot. This shall be a permanent statute to them throughout their generations.”’

Corinthians 1:10
No, but I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons.


Corinthians 10:14
Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry.

1 Timothy 4:1-2
But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will [a]fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron,

Exodus 20:5

You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, . . .


Does this mean places like (Mosques, Hindu and Buddhist temples, or anything that is not our Triune God) are places of devil worship, even if it is being done unwittingly, through lack of knowledge.

Do demons attach themselves to places to receive this worship?

The Spirit, through the Bible, is talking about "doctrine" I think teaching and adoration goes on in most Temples or Mosques, or whatever.
The Spirit speaks of "jealousy". Among humans that is normally close and personal.
To "flee" is to run away. Normally done because of danger.

We all know about the prohibitions of actually making an idol.

Anyway, are demons hanging around these places and soaking up the worship?
Are there any Bible verses that would support the notion that they are attaching themselves to these places. I am looking for something authoritative but will settle for persuasive (even a preponderance of evidence is fine)

I tend to think they do hang around those places but I have no "smoking gun"

Thank you for considering this question
 

mcubed

Senior Member
Dec 20, 2013
1,449
218
63
#2
I honest love this. It made me dig in my Scripture and pray and think.

I don’t believe it is not so much the type of music that is being played that influences the spiritual realm, or necessarily the lyrics play a role, but a person’s heart. Even the most beautiful Christian song can be sung in pure pride to bring glory to oneself rather than to God. I would find that far more likely to conjure demons.



The best Scripture to affirm this is David, when he played music for King Saul. His heart was so in love with G-d his music brought peace to Saul. The demonic influence is the inverse of someone’s heart toward G-d. ​
 

OneFaith

Senior Member
Sep 5, 2016
2,270
369
83
#3
I am trying figure out what is going on with non-Christian worship?

Leviticus 17:7
They shall no longer sacrifice their sacrifices to the [a]goat demons with which they play the harlot. This shall be a permanent statute to them throughout their generations.”’

Corinthians 1:10
No, but I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons.


Corinthians 10:14
Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry.

1 Timothy 4:1-2
But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will [a]fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron,

Exodus 20:5

You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, . . .


Does this mean places like (Mosques, Hindu and Buddhist temples, or anything that is not our Triune God) are places of devil worship, even if it is being done unwittingly, through lack of knowledge.

Do demons attach themselves to places to receive this worship?

The Spirit, through the Bible, is talking about "doctrine" I think teaching and adoration goes on in most Temples or Mosques, or whatever.
The Spirit speaks of "jealousy". Among humans that is normally close and personal.
To "flee" is to run away. Normally done because of danger.

We all know about the prohibitions of actually making an idol.

Anyway, are demons hanging around these places and soaking up the worship?
Are there any Bible verses that would support the notion that they are attaching themselves to these places. I am looking for something authoritative but will settle for persuasive (even a preponderance of evidence is fine)

I tend to think they do hang around those places but I have no "smoking gun"

Thank you for considering this question
Yes, such things and places are tainted by sin- which worshiping other than the true God is sin. The Bible says hate WHAT is evil and cling to WHAT is good. Remember how on the Christmas Carol (the story of Scrooge) how Tiny Tim's little cane was cherished because it reminded them a good soul? That's clinging to what is good.

I saw a Hallmark movie once where this mother had her newborn baby kidnapped, it was a true story. As soon as she saw her baby again, she took off her clothes- because the kidnapper put them on her. That is hating what is evil. Those clothes were tainted because they represented a sin in that mother's mind.

The places and items used to worship false gods are tainted with evil. However, do not call unclean what God has made clean. The very building that was once used to promote falsehood was purchased by our congregation, which then became a place of truth and prayer.

And yes, these are places demons thrive. Demons do go to good, to tempt, but as a visit. But they live where spiritual filth thrives. And where demons thrive, so do diseases that are meant to punish sin. These diseases are not always obvious, but can effect the mind, in worse cases with depravity.
 
Last edited:
Jan 25, 2015
9,213
3,188
113
#4
Interesting, I also notice on the games how the bad guys are always something like spiders, goats, demons, gargoyles etc.

The pattern keeps on going in circles :)
 

88

Senior Member
Nov 14, 2016
3,517
77
48
#5
The devil seeks direct worship---- evil spirits are involved in false doctrine (doctrines of demons)------false religions all have active evil sprits operating---- Paul taught worshipping idols was worship of demons-----the devil is involve in religious strife to bring confusion and every evil work---- I will try to go into more Scriptural detail later ...
 
Jan 25, 2015
9,213
3,188
113
#6
The devil seeks direct worship---- evil spirits are involved in false doctrine (doctrines of demons)------false religions all have active evil sprits operating---- Paul taught worshipping idols was worship of demons-----the devil is involve in religious strife to bring confusion and every evil work---- I will try to go into more Scriptural detail later ...
Cool, can't wait.
 

tanakh

Senior Member
Dec 1, 2015
4,635
1,040
113
76
#7
I believe that Demons are the Souls of the Nephelim (Giants of Genesis). Demons prefer a body to manifest themselves. People are the main targets or animals but they will use objects as well. In the case of objects what better than to reside in an Idol. Some Hindu cults go as far as washing and dressing Idols as though they are living things.
 

Demi777

Senior Member
Oct 13, 2014
6,877
1,949
113
Germany
#8
Why so much focus on demons and none on God?
 
Jan 25, 2015
9,213
3,188
113
#10
Why so much focus on demons and none on God?
For me, it is more about understanding... when I see these things in the cartoons I tell my son to switch to a different channel. We have to understand it but not lose our focus on God.

It is like you understanding that Jesus had two names so when somebody approach you in the name of Yeshua you are comfortable with that... when you don't understand it you might not be that open to the name Yeshua :)
 

Demi777

Senior Member
Oct 13, 2014
6,877
1,949
113
Germany
#11
Well I guess ill give some input here on the satanic knowledge or worship etc.
No matter where u worship or that you do. As soon as u get in touch with the spiritual relm you ( and that place ) will be brought to spiritual attention on all sides.
Who takes the overhand is the one who is worshipped wholeheartedly. You will find that if you go to a church with strong worship, the presence of the holy Spirit dwells in that place. If you go to a satanic church, the presence of demons dwell there. Demons attach themselves to these places that are intereating to then, not all do, but most do. Some watch and observe, others work.
The place where they get worship is their place of power and authority.

In short
Yes demons attach themselves to their worship places. Even places with satanic books or objects that are somewhere and have anything to do with them.

GOD BLESS!
 
Jan 25, 2015
9,213
3,188
113
#12
Yip, but the two can't mix :) so if the Spirit is present they can't be there.

Our pastor have two services on a Sunday. The mornings are for the whole congregation but the evenings are for the young people. One of my friends were picking up her daughter one night and while she was sitting outside she heard this unworldly shout. After the service her daughter came out of the church and she was upset. She told her mother that one of the girls was demon possessed and it manifested during the service but our pastor (being fluent in Hebrew) walked to this girl and started whispering to the demon in Hebrew. That thing went berserk and couldn't cope with it. He basically gave this scream and disappeared :)
 

Demi777

Senior Member
Oct 13, 2014
6,877
1,949
113
Germany
#13
Careful with that brother. Some manifest and some mix themselves in. That brings us to the discussion of legal rights. Ive been to a church that due to a handful of good christians the Holy Spirit was there but due to the rest being led by the antichrist spirit that was there also. Things can work parallel too. If it couldnt, barely ppl could get saved as no church is absolutely perfect.
Some demons cant stand worship and leave because they cant stand the presencence of the Lord. Others use it that people will be lulled in and pass out row after row. Its tricky. Id have to write a whole article on that one lol


Yip, but the two can't mix :) so if the Spirit is present they can't be there.

Our pastor have two services on a Sunday. The mornings are for the whole congregation but the evenings are for the young people. One of my friends were picking up her daughter one night and while she was sitting outside she heard this unworldly shout. After the service her daughter came out of the church and she was upset. She told her mother that one of the girls was demon possessed and it manifested during the service but our pastor (being fluent in Hebrew) walked to this girl and started whispering to the demon in Hebrew. That thing went berserk and couldn't cope with it. He basically gave this scream and disappeared :)
 

OneFaith

Senior Member
Sep 5, 2016
2,270
369
83
#15
Why so much focus on demons and none on God?

Actually, to know our enemy is focusing on God. How can you see the difference between light and darkness unless you know them both? Jesus says the devil is like a roaring lion- seeking whom he may devour. Why would He tell us that? Because you can't avoid the devils schemes unless you know how he operates. And you can't help those lost unless you can understand what's going on, and where their thinking went wrong.

Look at the temptations of Eve and of Christ, and ask yourself "What are the similarities?" And more importantly, "How did Christ pass the test and make Satan flee from Him, and Eve did not?"

It is knowing how theives think that causes us to lock our doors and add lighting. If you want to be holy you need to avoid evil, and you have to know how evil operates in order to avoid it, and to show others how to avoid it.

These people didn't come up with these ideas to worship falsely, they think it was their decision and that they are the ones who are right. When really they didn't have their guard up, and the ability to recognize falsehood, and the substance that fights against it- proper understanding of scripture. They do what feels right instead of what the Bible says is right.
 

Dan_473

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2014
9,054
1,051
113
#16
about the Holy Spirit and demons being in the same place, I think this is interesting

THE ACTS 16:16 As we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit of divination and brought her owners much gain by fortune-telling.
THE ACTS 16:17 She followed Paul and us, crying out, These men are servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to you the way of salvation.
 

88

Senior Member
Nov 14, 2016
3,517
77
48
#17
1 Corinthians 10:16-22. Things offered to idols are offered to demons....if you want more info. on challenging the works of darkness----witches---- evil priests...let me know...Grace and Peace
 

G00WZ

Senior Member
May 16, 2014
1,313
447
83
37
#18
Anything outside the spirit of God can be used as a proxy for demons to receive worship, and yes they do hide behind false idols and principalities. A fine example of why not to do this is simply to look at Haiti, they openly do 70+ types of voodoo and they have several demon "protectors".... A lot of churches fall because God is jealous, and will not be in the same category as pagan idols and principals that he does not agree with like (gay marriage) and such...
 

marknoo

Junior Member
Sep 9, 2016
5
0
0
#19
Deleted answer. answered by another person in thread
 
Last edited:

Demi777

Senior Member
Oct 13, 2014
6,877
1,949
113
Germany
#20
I answered most in my 2nd post. Demons attach themselves to places. All you can do is pray against it or leave it.


Briefly, I asked a question about whether or not demons attached themselves to places of worship to things other than our God.

Basically I wanted to know if demons attach themselves to Buddhist or Hindu temples. Or anyplace of worship that is not directed towards our God (our Triune God).

I want to know if the Buddhist temple a few blocks away from my house is a problem. If it is a problem, what should i do about it.