The man of sin / the man of righteousness

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InSpiritInTruth

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If you abide in Adam you abide in the flesh………………………….If you abide in Christ you abide in the Spirit
If you abide in Adam you abide in sin………………………… If you abide in Christ you abide in righteousness.

If you abide in Adam you are carnally minded……………… If you abide in Christ you are spiritually minded.
If you abide in Adam you are of the world……………………… if you abide in Christ you are not of this world.
If you abide in Adam you abide in darkness………………………..if you abide in Christ you abide in the Light.

If you abide in Adam you are conformed to the image of the god of this world….if you abide in Christ you are transformed into image of God’s Son in heaven.

If you abide in Adam you are taught understanding in God’s words by men……If you abide in Christ you are taught understanding in God’s words by God.

If you abide in Adam you are of the spirit of this world….if you abide in Christ you are of the Spirit of God.

If you abide in Adam you walk after the lusts of the flesh….if you abide in Christ you walk after the Spirit of God in holiness and righteousness.

If you abide in Adam you receive the mark of the beast………………. if you abide in Christ you are sealed by God’s Spirit.

If you abide in Adam you abide in the words of men and speak them……. if you abide in Christ you abide in the words of God and speak them.


If you abide in Adam you abide in the corruptible seed…….if you abide in Christ you abide in the incorruptible seed.

If you abide in Adam you abide in Death…………………………….if you abide in Christ you abide in Eternal life.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, …………… even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
 
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Thats all great. and no one would argue with you.

So, according to this list. Who is saved and who is not?

Or is this about how a child of God lives struggles?

or is this just another hypergrace attack thread?
 
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InSpiritInTruth said:
If you abide in Adam you abide in the flesh………………………….If you abide in Christ you abide in the Spirit
If you abide in Adam you abide in sin………………………… If you abide in Christ you abide in righteousness.

If you abide in Adam you are carnally minded……………… If you abide in Christ you are spiritually minded.
If you abide in Adam you are of the world……………………… if you abide in Christ you are not of this world.
If you abide in Adam you abide in darkness………………………..if you abide in Christ you abide in the Light.

If you abide in Adam you are conformed to the image of the god of this world….if you abide in Christ you are transformed into image of God’s Son in heaven.

If you abide in Adam you are taught understanding in God’s words by men……If you abide in Christ you are taught understanding in God’s words by God.

If you abide in Adam you are of the spirit of this world….if you abide in Christ you are of the Spirit of God.

If you abide in Adam you walk after the lusts of the flesh….if you abide in Christ you walk after the Spirit of God in holiness and righteousness.

If you abide in Adam you receive the mark of the beast………………. if you abide in Christ you are sealed by God’s Spirit.

If you abide in Adam you abide in the words of men and speak them……. if you abide in Christ you abide in the words of God and speak them.


If you abide in Adam you abide in the corruptible seed…….if you abide in Christ you abide in the incorruptible seed.

If you abide in Adam you abide in Death…………………………….if you abide in Christ you abide in Eternal life.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, …………… even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
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I would conclude this with what Jesus said. Without me ye can do nothing.
 
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isit I know you won't say yes but I simply have to ask.... Do you purposely make threads to cause war?
 
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isit I know you won't say yes but I simply have to ask.... Do you purposely make threads to cause war?
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No, I post threads to edify the body of Christ, but the red people will persecute the blue anyway. :)
 
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No, I post threads to edify the body of Christ, but the red people will persecute the blue anyway. :)
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hm.. Trying to think of the last thread ISIT posted which was not an attack thread, But just a thread to Edify?

Nope. can't think of one..

Everyone would agree with the points ISIT made. But he will make sure to judge people as not believing them.
 
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InSpiritInTruth said:
No, I post threads to edify the body of Christ, but the red people will persecute the blue anyway. :)
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hmm... well I suppose the motive to edify is pure intention however the fruits of it are lacking, the only fruit I have ever seen from your threads are an all out war never any edifying. Perhaps instead of making so many topics the same thing and about sin make some that would help others and encourage them? People need help to be able to stand and need words of encouragement and hope and light and love far more than they need to be spoken to about sin
 
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How do we get from Adam to the Lord Jesus Christ?

Paul shows us the way. It is all by grace through faith in His finished work on the cross and resurrection. Eph. 2:8-9

It is from start to finish - all by grace through faith alone in Christ's finished work. Right believing will produce the manifestation of His life in and through us to show His love and grace for others in this hurt and dying world.

The process is:

1) we hear the message of Christ

2) we believe the message of Christ

3) we become in manifestation what Christ is now because we see Him for who He really is. We are transformed to reflect in our outward behavior the life of Christ Himself by beholding the glory/goodness of the Lord by the Holy Spirit. 2 Cor. 3:17-18

We can see this being done in Eph. 1:13 when we first received Christ.

Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, ( 1)the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, ( 2) you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, ( 3)
 
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Blain said:
hmm... well I suppose the motive to edify is pure intention however the fruits of it are lacking, the only fruit I have ever seen from your threads are an all out war never any edifying. Perhaps instead of making so many topics the same thing and about sin make some that would help others and encourage them? People need help to be able to stand and need words of encouragement and hope and light and love far more than they need to be spoken to about sin
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Amen, seek the things of the spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh.. Seeking things of God is what helps us grow once we are saved, Not constantly being told to stop sin.. A true child of God knows about sin, He does not have to constantly be judged about sin over and over.. Thats NOT how you have victory over sin,
 
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Blain said:
hmm... well I suppose the motive to edify is pure intention however the fruits of it are lacking, the only fruit I have ever seen from your threads are an all out war never any edifying. Perhaps instead of making so many topics the same thing and about sin make some that would help others and encourage them? People need help to be able to stand and need words of encouragement and hope and light and love far more than they need to be spoken to about sin
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What part of the OP offends you? And no doubt reproving the world of sin causes offense to many, but it is usually the sinners who are offended. The Holy Spirit reproves the world of sin, is the Holy Spirit offensive to you?
 
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InSpiritInTruth said:
What part of the OP offends you? And no doubt reproving the world of sin causes offense to many, but it is usually the sinners who are offended. The Holy Spirit reproves the world of sin, is the Holy Spirit offensive to you?
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I am not offended I am just trying to help guide you in the way to go. You say you want to help edify the church and that is a gift God has given me in great abundance and so I am showing you how to do it the right way.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Amen, seek the things of the spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh.. Seeking things of God is what helps us grow once we are saved, Not constantly being told to stop sin.. A true child of God knows about sin, He does not have to constantly be judged about sin over and over.. Thats NOT how you have victory over sin,
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Indeed I am all to aware of my own sins and if I keep focusing on them I end up not being able to keep my eyes on God rather I only see my own filth and weakness. However when My hearts eyes are set upon him alone everything changes the sins I sturggled with so badly have little to no power anymore and I am just happy and uplifted in general it's like when we think about and focus on sin and our own weaknesses everything is like a rainy day with gloomy skies and crashing thunder but when we focus on him it's like spongebob vision everything is rainbows and sunshine and even when the hard times come which they will we can stand strong
 
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Galatians 5:

16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.


According to Galatians 5:16, as we walk in the Spirit we shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

And according to Galatians 5:17, the flesh lusteth against the Spirit.

So we can abide in Christ which, according to the first line in the OP, means we abide in the Spirit and still have the flesh lusting.

So to walk in the Spirit does not mean the flesh won't "lust" against the Spirit.


To walk in the Spirit means we have the resources at hand to not fall victim to the lusts of the flesh. God provides us a way to escape (1 Cor 10:13). We endure the temptation as we hold fast to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. In His grace, mercy, and lovingkindness, He gives us the strength to endure. In Heb 2:10, He is called the captain of our salvation and in Heb 2:18 we are told He is able to succour (help, bring aid) them that are tempted.
 
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I quite like his posts.. and don't understand how so many are offended..Take the verses and run with them..
 
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Indeed I am all to aware of my own sins and if I keep focusing on them I end up not being able to keep my eyes on God rather I only see my own filth and weakness. However when My hearts eyes are set upon him alone everything changes the sins I sturggled with so badly have little to no power anymore and I am just happy and uplifted in general it's like when we think about and focus on sin and our own weaknesses everything is like a rainy day with gloomy skies and crashing thunder but when we focus on him it's like spongebob vision everything is rainbows and sunshine and even when the hard times come which they will we can stand strong
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It is sort of like part of what the OP posted. Being in Christ.. It is kind of hard to sin against a person when you are focused on loving them.

it is when we take our eyes of God and others that we start to think of self. and this is when sin enters in. And if we allow yourself to focus on that, We will crash and burn.. (I have done it and witnessed it far to many times)

Thats where grace comes in, If you fall. Get up Admit you have sinned, Get your eyes back on God (our abba Father) and refocus on loving others.
 
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HisHolly said:
I quite like his posts.. and don't understand how so many are offended..Take the verses and run with them..
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His posts can be good to soak in but the main issue is that they always seem to have this pointing the finger at the reader to them, his words and the scriptures he posts are indeed edifying however the heart behind them is what makes them ineffective
 
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I quite like his posts.. and don't understand how so many are offended..Take the verses and run with them..
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It is his past and his reputation which precedes him..

When you have a habit of doing things, You sort of LOSE you defectiveness and trustworthiness.
 
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His posts can be good to soak in but the main issue is that they always seem to have this pointing the finger at the reader to them, his words and the scriptures he posts are indeed edifying however the heart behind them is what makes them ineffective
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Yes, And he never explains the post or the verses to give us his interpretation, Just expects us all to know what he is tryign to say, And when someone questions him, he gets upset.

Again, That makes all the passages he posts meaningless.
 
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