Carry your cross, follow Jesus, die to self -- for eternal life

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With Christ we have a new spirit as the Holy Spirit now dwells with our spirit,
but we will not receive a new body until Jesus returns.
Here is where the battle lies. A new born again spirit living in a still sinful flesh.
The more we follow the leadership of the Holy Spirit the greater our victory over the flesh.
But sometimes we fail to heed the leadership of the Holy Spirit and the flesh wins---we sin.
The Spirit convicts, we repent, God forgives, and the battle begins again.
Yes, thanks ... this is what it is all about.
 
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Wow..... And I thought I was harsh the past couple of days.:(
The false "believers" are the ones who will gladly hand you over to Satan's henchmen to be beheaded
... when that time comes soon ... it's called heavy-duty persecution of the true believers.

The parallel is back hundreds of years ago ...
when the RCC killed many thousands who truly believed in the whole counsel of God.
 
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Y'all both need to forgive each other and place one another on ignore
if you can't see each other as brothers.
Me, I don't see those as my brothers ... who insist on rejecting and ignoring
Jesus' commandments, many warnings about not sinning, and many etc.

I see them as agents of Satan who are being used to destroy the faith of others.

There are wheat and there are tares (weeds).
There are sheep and there are goats.

The tares and the goats are not my brothers.
But, Jesus said to let them be ... they will be dealt with ...
His angels will throw them into the fire @ the end of the age.
 
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And you are pretty good at it too! Remember this one.....



Nice huh? :)
You are correct. I should not have said that you lied, called you a liar, a false teacher, and an agent of Satan.
I should has said that you falsely accused, I believe you teach a false Gospel, that I believe you have been deceived by Satan, and I believe that you are being used by Satan.
Sorry for the harsh words.
 

NayborBear

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False.......Eternal life is given upon belief and acknowledgement of Jesus...being a disciple makes one a learner of one's doctrine...discipleship is an ongoing process and has NOTHING TO DO WITH GAINING and or KEEPING eternal life...more works heresy...nothing more


To add to, as in agreement with ya...One, having believed and accepted Jesus as Lord and Saviour....What does that make one?.....A "babe" IN Christ, correct?.........And, what does a "babe" wear for clothing?.....NOTHING! Tiz ONLY WHEN
one starts "picking up one's cross", and following Christ does one start becoming "Clothed in righteousness"! (meaning) THESE are the "clothes" we'll be wearing in the coming earth/heaven age! (meaning) There WILL be some who "think" they are dressed much more then they actually are. Yes!...Eternal life has been secured! What ISN'T, is how well dressed one shall be IN the eternity!
 

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[for me anyway] To deny ourselves is to disown our own will; and to take up our cross is to carry our load and own our sins (even daily).
 
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You are correct. I should not have said that you lied, called you a liar, a false teacher, and an agent of Satan.
I should has said that you falsely accused, I believe you teach a false Gospel, that I believe you have been deceived by Satan, and I believe that you are being used by Satan.
Sorry for the harsh words.
That's alright, I understand why you guys can't control yourself. As I've also come to expect them harsh words from the super duper grace camp. But you have a nice eternity anyway now ya hear! :)
 
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I just proved you wrong by scripture again, and you say I call Jesus a liar? How childish. Jesus also said the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak in the garden before the apostles were born again of the Spirit and empowered from on high, so that don't fly either. Anyone who is born again of the Holy Spirit would know that we do not have a dual nature and the confusion of a "disassociated identity" crisis as you phonies believe. LOL

You reprobates believe your spirit is perfect BUT you are still trapped in a sinful body, which is why you say you cannot stop sinning. You guys are not sealed by the Holy Spirit, and so you are WIDE OPEN for attack. Good luck wit dat. :)
The highlighted section proves you are blind and your theology is false...they were ALREADY born of the spirit, saved, had given fruit worthy of repentance, immersed and called out by Christ.....You have no clue what your talking about...still a novice and blind at that
 
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That's alright, I understand why you guys can't control yourself. As I've also come to expect them harsh words from the super duper grace camp. But you have a nice eternity anyway now ya hear! :)
No worries we will...good luck bragging on your works and self righteousness before Christ...he speaks of you concerning those who will come before him boasting of all that they have done......not a good day for you
 
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The highlighted section proves you are blind and your theology is false...they were ALREADY born of the spirit, saved, had given fruit worthy of repentance, immersed and called out by Christ.....You have no clue what your talking about...still a novice and blind at that
That is a good one, me thinks you don't understand....(notice I use the words of God to prove my points) :)

John 7:39
(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)


John 20:22
And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:


Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Luke 24:49
And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.


Acts 1:4
And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
 
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No worries we will...good luck bragging on your works and self righteousness
Christ is my righteousness, as I have come in His name. What does it say about those who reject the ones who Jesus sends in His name? :)
 
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Awakened

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A Christian is called to carry his cross daily while dying to self – to receive eternal life. ZacharyB
(reference: the NT).[/QUOTE]


Do you believe salvation is instantaneous or progressive? ☺
 
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There WILL be some who "think" they are dressed much more then they actually are.
Gee, you must be referring to the Laodicean church (Rev 3).
Jesus tells us all about their deplorable condition.
But, He doesn't come right out and say they're going to Hell.
 
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Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Luke 24:49
And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

Acts 1:4
And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
I'm curious ... do you understand what these verses are talking about?
E.G. What is the power that is promised? ... And what is the promise?
Hint: The promise is not capitalized.
 
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Salvation is instantaneous----God's work in our lives is progressive (growing in Grace)...
 
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A Christian is called to carry his cross daily while dying to self – to receive eternal life. ZacharyB
(reference: the NT).

Do you believe salvation is instantaneous or progressive?
Salvation obviously is progressive ... dozens of NT verses teach this.
Where have you been the last few weeks?
 

Awakened

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Salvation obviously is progressive ... dozens of NT verses teach this.
Where have you been the last few weeks?
I understand that salvation is instantaneous and sanctification is progressive. Is that not correct?

We no longer have to manage sin for the purposes of salvation, but we do have to consider our spiritual hygiene.
 

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That is walking daily with the Lord---full of the Spirit---full of fire...