It is evident by the example of Judas, and nothing more needs to be said: but we also should understand the invented word "suicide" itself was invented to replace "self-murder" (which by the way is still used in many countries until now); but they [whoever they are] wanted to replace self-murder with something more clinical sounding and not harsh sounding as self-murder. As for self-murder being a sin, you must know that it is by its very nature; in addition self-murder is a sin in which the person cannot repent of! Notwithstanding [for me anyway] the matter is between that person and God, and we who remain can only hope for that person receiving pardon from God.
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This is a common statement
Now tell me: Will ALL who commit ANY sin and die before they say "sorry Lord, forgive me" go to hell according to your bible?
I know you didn't say "go to hell", but you suggest not being forgiven by God, which is basically going to hell.
If you wrong your friend in the morning, and you are in an accident in the afternoon and die before you apologize, do you genuinely believe you go to hell? If not, why do you condemn others?
Now tell me: Will ALL who commit ANY sin and die before they say "sorry Lord, forgive me" go to hell according to your bible?
I know you didn't say "go to hell", but you suggest not being forgiven by God, which is basically going to hell.
If you wrong your friend in the morning, and you are in an accident in the afternoon and die before you apologize, do you genuinely believe you go to hell? If not, why do you condemn others?
Hi! As one who struggles with thoughts of suicide, suicidal ideation as my psychologist calls it, I understand, perhaps more than others not afflicted, what a battle this can be for a Christian. I read all the posts and I think they thoroughly covered the subject and had some good thoughts and advice. One person said that the motivation behind your asking the question is important - it's crucial. So it is important for you to know exactly why you are asking the question and as suggested if you need help get help: go to your primary doctor and just be honest.
We are created in God’s image. We are greater than the animals and the Angels and will be given great responsibilities and opportunities in the kingdom. I for one would just as soon skip the part that involves our living in a fallen world. My problem comes from chemical imbalances that are genetic. If I am off my meds, things can get real bad real fast. Even when I am on my meds I can have a down spiral – very wicked.
But my struggles have taught me and continue to teach me that if I am alive it is because God has a purpose for my life. The more I go to work for the benefit of his kingdom, while staying on my medical regimen, the more opportunity I have to see my worth to God and to others (and to feel good about myself – no sin in that).
Christians accept Jesus Christ as their Lord. The implications of that simple sentence are vast. We are not our own we have been bought with a price. One can get technical as to whether suicide is specifically mentioned in the Bible, but killing is killing and murder is murder. Murder, killing the self, is trying to circumvent God’s plan for us on this earth. Get help if you need it and get your mind in the word - Romans 8 has much to offer. Read the Gospel of John. God bless you.
We are created in God’s image. We are greater than the animals and the Angels and will be given great responsibilities and opportunities in the kingdom. I for one would just as soon skip the part that involves our living in a fallen world. My problem comes from chemical imbalances that are genetic. If I am off my meds, things can get real bad real fast. Even when I am on my meds I can have a down spiral – very wicked.
But my struggles have taught me and continue to teach me that if I am alive it is because God has a purpose for my life. The more I go to work for the benefit of his kingdom, while staying on my medical regimen, the more opportunity I have to see my worth to God and to others (and to feel good about myself – no sin in that).
Christians accept Jesus Christ as their Lord. The implications of that simple sentence are vast. We are not our own we have been bought with a price. One can get technical as to whether suicide is specifically mentioned in the Bible, but killing is killing and murder is murder. Murder, killing the self, is trying to circumvent God’s plan for us on this earth. Get help if you need it and get your mind in the word - Romans 8 has much to offer. Read the Gospel of John. God bless you.
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The temptation to commit suicide is very real for many people. There are Christians who struggle with the temptation. Jesus was tempted (remaining sinless) to throw himself off the pinnacle of the temple. I do not believe that God's judgement is like a cookie cutter yet I am sure God judges each individual case and looks at the evidence of each person individually. In court automatic sentences generally are not used; the judge looks at each individual situation and weighs motives, evidence, remorse et cetera. I do not condone suicide, at the same time have had to cope with the suicides of many other people.
Samson had his eyes gouged out and was made to perform in a heathen temple. He asked God for the strength to push down the supporting pillars in order to kill himself and the Philistines for the sake of his two eyes - God gave him the strength and Samson died along with many people. I don't believe this is a concession to commit suicide for it is written:
"If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy that person; for God's temple is sacred, and you together are that temple." 1 Corinthians 3:17 (NIV)
Under the New Covenant we are not to be like Samson for it is written: "the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them."
Judges 16:28-30 New King James Version (NKJV)
Then Samson called to the LORD, saying, “O Lord God, remember me, I pray! Strengthen me, I pray, just this once, O God, that I may with one blow take vengeance on the Philistines for my two eyes!” And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars which supported the temple, and he braced himself against them, one on his right and the other on his left. Then Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines!” And he pushed with all his might, and the temple fell on the lords and all the people who were in it. So the dead that he killed at his death were more than he had killed in his life.
Samson had his eyes gouged out and was made to perform in a heathen temple. He asked God for the strength to push down the supporting pillars in order to kill himself and the Philistines for the sake of his two eyes - God gave him the strength and Samson died along with many people. I don't believe this is a concession to commit suicide for it is written:
"If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy that person; for God's temple is sacred, and you together are that temple." 1 Corinthians 3:17 (NIV)
Under the New Covenant we are not to be like Samson for it is written: "the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them."
Judges 16:28-30 New King James Version (NKJV)
Then Samson called to the LORD, saying, “O Lord God, remember me, I pray! Strengthen me, I pray, just this once, O God, that I may with one blow take vengeance on the Philistines for my two eyes!” And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars which supported the temple, and he braced himself against them, one on his right and the other on his left. Then Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines!” And he pushed with all his might, and the temple fell on the lords and all the people who were in it. So the dead that he killed at his death were more than he had killed in his life.
We can leave out the sin part and just look at suicide itself. Suicide is a way of solving your problems, by escaping from them. Not being alive equals no problems one might think. But never forget that we are Children of the most high. Is there any problem our Father can not handle? Why would someone rather take his own precious life than trust God and ask Him for help?
Also dcontroversal watch this video please: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOYy8iCfIJ4
Also dcontroversal watch this video please: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOYy8iCfIJ4
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In the book of Acts one man's close suicide attempt turned into the opportunity for salvation for a whole household. Notice Paul didn't say: "Don't harm yourself or else you are going to hell." He said: "Don't harm yourself because we are all here." I believe there is a lesson here, more than a lesson. The same man who was suicidal in one moment, was at the next moment ready to bring his whole household to Christ Jesus. We cannot judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart of those who have been tempted to commit suicide and nor those who have passed away. Only God knows their hearts.
Additionally, the next time we talk to someone who is suicidal we might follow Paul's example by saying: You do not need to harm yourself, I am here, and God is here for you through Christ Jesus.
Acts 16:25-33 King James Version (KJV)
And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them. And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed. And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled. But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here. Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
Additionally, the next time we talk to someone who is suicidal we might follow Paul's example by saying: You do not need to harm yourself, I am here, and God is here for you through Christ Jesus.
Acts 16:25-33 King James Version (KJV)
And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them. And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed. And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled. But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here. Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
As the one, only, and sole determining factor of salvation is belief in Christ, no, suicide does not condemn you to hell. BUT even tho you still are saved, you will still be judged for it. And let us not forget that we live in a world who's aim is to push us in that direction:
John 15:19
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
John 12:25
Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
2 Corinthians 12:10
That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
1 Corinthians 4
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwelling place; [SUP]12 [/SUP]And labor, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: [SUP]13 [/SUP]Being defamed, we entreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the off scouring of all things unto this day. [SUP]14 [/SUP]I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you."
Matthew 5
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. 5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. 6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. 7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. 8 Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. 9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. 10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Matthew 10
22 You will be hated by everyone because of Me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Philippians 1
21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. 22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; 24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. 25 Convinced of this, I know that I will remain, and I will continue with all of you for your progress and joy in the faith
1 Thessalonians 3
7 Therefore, brothers and sisters, in all our distress and persecution we were encouraged about you because of your faith. 8 For now we really live, since you are standing firm in the Lord.
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That feeling that you don't belong in this world? It's because you don't belong to this world. The fact that you suffer in it says you must be doing something right. God says to persevere. Paul said he would. Shall we do any less?
John 15:19
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
John 12:25
Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
2 Corinthians 12:10
That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
1 Corinthians 4
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwelling place; [SUP]12 [/SUP]And labor, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: [SUP]13 [/SUP]Being defamed, we entreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the off scouring of all things unto this day. [SUP]14 [/SUP]I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you."
Matthew 5
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. 5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. 6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. 7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. 8 Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. 9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. 10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Matthew 10
22 You will be hated by everyone because of Me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Philippians 1
21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. 22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; 24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. 25 Convinced of this, I know that I will remain, and I will continue with all of you for your progress and joy in the faith
1 Thessalonians 3
7 Therefore, brothers and sisters, in all our distress and persecution we were encouraged about you because of your faith. 8 For now we really live, since you are standing firm in the Lord.
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That feeling that you don't belong in this world? It's because you don't belong to this world. The fact that you suffer in it says you must be doing something right. God says to persevere. Paul said he would. Shall we do any less?
2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive his due for the things done in the body, whether good or bad.
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Every time the person taking heroin knows he might not come out alive. They say there have been more heroin od;s than motor vehicle accidents. The suicide bomber who thinks he's getting a reward blowing himself and taking other lives is deceived.
The word says Satan comes to rob steal and destroy.. When a life is taken as in self destruction, the brother, mother, who ever has been robbed of the gift God has created and given them. A homicide detective who is called on these cases to investigate whether it was planned or made to look as it, some will tell you those who have changed their mind at the end with all their finger nails broken trying to get the rope off around the neck, and some found dead with their fingers in it in an attempt to live. The word also says there is an appointed time for man to die. Lose of hope is the loss of reasoning and in a world that renounces God and prayers in schools, where satanic clubs are forming in the elementary schools to get the minds when their vulnerable and pure, and the cult leader states the schools have nothing to stand on restricting faith in an almighty God, people want something to believe in the truth out and believe in a deception. Not only does the person die, but as so many have said they died within them self a part also. This person asking is seeking help, and I ask you Father God, to break the spirit of death depression and despair on this person, and the darkness be enlightened by your holy spirit in Jesus name.
I have known people who have used heroin. NoOne that I know of used "heroin" in order to end their lives. But there may be a few.
May I ask, were you one of them too ->
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I have known people who have used heroin. NoOne that I know of used "heroin" in order to end their lives. But there may be a few.
May I ask, were you one of them too ->
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