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    Can someone please tell me which part of the bible mentions suicide being a sin. Directly , not how you can interperate it but in black and white , a sin


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    There isn't any specific passage. Suicide as a sin is a carry-over from when the Protestants broke from the RCC. Some folks twist Exodus 20:13 and 21:23 to say suicide = murder, but there isn't any specific, explicit passage that references suicide as a sin in the entire Bible.
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    As the scriptures says those who endure to the end shall be saved. As much as tragic suicide is it's not enduring. God can help us through whatever we face in life. He wants us to rely on him & not take matters in our own hands. He loves us & doesn't want us to do that to ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troubled2 View Post
    Can someone please tell me which part of the bible mentions suicide being a sin. Directly , not how you can interperate it but in black and white , a sin

    King Saul comitted suicide or had an assisted a.suicide depends u know you believe the soldier who cut his head off that said he asked to be killed.

    Assisted suicide is definitely condemned and punished by death of that solider by order of King David.

    Some say Judas the betrayer committed suicide.

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    What's suicide? The sin as the self murder KJVGalatians5;21,21. Envying, murders, drunkenness,revellings, and such like; of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.;What kind of personal conditions lead to suicide? Depression,wounded spirit,hopelessness,despair,a broken heart,and all accompanying thoughts of death, self-harm, and self-destruction.
    KJVPsalm55;22 Cast thy burden upon the Lord, and he shall sustain thee; he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved.

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    Most interpret Exodus 20:13 "Thou shalt not murder" as being all inclusive. Murder is taking an innocent life, your own or someone else. "Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?" (1 Corinthians 6:19-20).

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    Some folks, ironically mainly those grace-only folks, will say "Thou shalt not kill" is making reference to suicide also. Why they do this is beyond me when they tell any child of God who teaaches obedience that they are under the law inferring they do not know Jesus Christ.

    There is only one sin unpardonable, and that is (may be) the blaspheming of the Holy Ghost.
    Several times in the Word it is writtne, God will not turn away a broken heart.. I believe this, and I believe it for real since a close relative of mine did die by his own hand. I was led to one of the places the mention is made of God not turning away ever a broken heart...........I always believe God before I believe any holier-than thou merciless interpretations of the Word.

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    Can someone please tell me which part of the bible mentions suicide being a sin. Directly , not how you can interperate it but in black and white , a sin

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    As you see, people will merely twist other scripture to mean what they want it to mean when this question is asked,

    There is no verse specifically saying it is a sin, and certainly no verse saying it sends you straight to hell as some here would have you believe.

    That being said: God loves us, we are his children. I am certain no sane parent would want their children to kill themselves.

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    The more important question is, why are you asking this? Is it just for an understanding on doctrine, someone you know went through with it, or are you, yourself, contemplating doing it? There is a life to live that God has planned for your life, and the lives of others. Each and everyone one of those lives touches multiple lives as a result of living and so it continues to multiply. As we live our lives impact the lives of others, even so to the degree that our lives and obedience to God's plan for our lives can effect people's eternity. You and no one are a mistake.

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    Suicide is murder. After all the person is killing one of Gods children. I do think though that if a person has an unbalanced mind, or some kind of chemical unbalance God would judge with that in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troubled2 View Post
    Can someone please tell me which part of the bible mentions suicide being a sin. Directly , not how you can interperate it but in black and white , a sin

    "Do not murder." Murder is taking human life without God's permission (police, judges, and armies have God's permission in the line of duty). You did not create yourself, and therefore have no right to kill yourself.

    Scenario: There are two kids on the beach building sandcastles- a boy and a girl. After building his castle, he goes and stomps all over it. Another kid tattles on him to his dad. His dad says "That's ok, he built it, he can take it down if he wants to." Then after trampling his own castle, the boy goes over and tramples the girl's castle. His father sees this, and tells him he had no right to destroy that girl's castle, and procedes with disciplining the boy.

    You did not create yourself, you have no right to destroy a person God created. Anyone who takes human life without God's permission will surely be punished. They are a murderer, and murderers will be tormented in hell for all eternity.

    I dont know what the problem is, but murder by suicide will not solve it, but make it much worse. Better go with plan B- get professional help. These people are highly skilled and highly trained to help those with suicidal thoughts. You can either google "suicide help" to get the hotline number, or you can call 911 and they will get you to the right people.
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    Well, I would have to say that suicide is a sin, because if it isn't, why not kill yourself right after you are saved so you will gain early access to heaven? However, (almost) nobody does that, so I would say yes, it's a sin.

    ...But I haven't read much of the Bible yet (still on Genesis...), so you will have to see for yourself.

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    Most are aware that Jesus Christ equates hatred of a person to murder. If this is the case, suicide cannot be murder. It results most often if not always from heartbreak.

    Quote Originally Posted by OneFaith View Post
    "Do not murder." Murder is taking human life without God's permission (police, judges, and armies have God's permission in the line of duty). You did not create yourself, and therefore have no right to kill yourself.

    Scenario: There are two kids on the beach building sandcastles- a boy and a girl. After building his castle, he goes and stomps all over it. Another kid tattles on him to his dad. His dad says "That's ok, he built it, he can take it down if he wants to." Then after trampling his own castle, the boy goes over and tramples the girl's castle. His father sees this, and tells him he had no right to destroy that girl's castle, and procedes with disciplining the boy.

    You did not create yourself, you have no right to destroy a person God created. Anyone who takes human life without God's permission will surely be punished. They are a murderer, and murderers will be tormented in hell for all eternity.

    I dont know what the problem is, but murder by suicide will not solve it, but make it much worse. Better go with plan B- get professional help. These people are highly skilled and highly trained to help those with suicidal thoughts. You can either google "suicide help" to get the hotline number, or you can call 911 and they will get you to the right people.
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    This could be suneasily. If you believe we are saved by grace, then how can you mention sin, for the only manner in which sin can be held against anyone is if that person is under the law because sin is breaking the law.

    If any wish to say sin, say it with mercy, justice and faith. If you do this, then if the subject is a sin, it may be forgiven, quite readily.

    I refuse to judge anyone to damnation due to a suicide....this shows no mercy. If we do not show mercy it will not be shown to us.


    Quote Originally Posted by WineRose View Post
    Well, I would have to say that suicide is a sin, because if it isn't, why not kill yourself right after you are saved so you will gain early access to heaven? However, (almost) nobody does that, so I would say yes, it's a sin.

    ...But I haven't read much of the Bible yet (still on Genesis...), so you will have to see for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troubled2 View Post
    Can someone please tell me which part of the bible mentions suicide being a sin. Directly , not how you can interperate it but in black and white , a sin

    You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.' Luke 18:20 RSV

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    1 Corinthians 6:19-20
    Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the HolySpirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.

    I think this scripture speaks for its self to the saved individual.

    Now addressing the issue of the unregerated...well that is a matter for God.

    For the saved...let it be known that we have not been given a spirit of fear.
    ...that there is no situation that's not been given a means of escape.
    ....that the holy spirit convicts..and leads to repentance...but the father of lies condemned and leads to destruction.

    If this is for the o.p rest assured that if you are saved God is very aware of your situation and will restore you in ...rest in him.
    For the unregerated....God is extending his arms right now to receive you ...to rescue you to love you and call you his own. All you need is to repent and believe.
    "All who call upon the Lord's name shall be saved"....
    Taking your life does not resolve anything ...you are precious in his sight. You have a loving God waiting to respond....trust in him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneFaith View Post
    "Do not murder." Murder is taking human life without God's permission (police, judges, and armies have God's permission in the line of duty). You did not create yourself, and therefore have no right to kill yourself.
    That is hypocrisy. If suicide is murder, so is taking any life for any reason, no matter how much of a policeman or soldier you are
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    Quote Originally Posted by buddyt View Post
    Suicide is murder. After all the person is killing one of Gods children. I do think though that if a person has an unbalanced mind, or some kind of chemical unbalance God would judge with that in mind.
    People, believers, often like to make caveats on how God will judge a person but the problem with this is that these special case scenarios are irrelevant in that Jesus already paid the price for sin. If suicide is a sin, did not Christ pay the penalty of all sin on the cross?

    Of course this isn't an endorsement to commit suicide, but if you look at the Gospel and what Jesus accomplished through His death and resurrection you cannot argue that suicide leads to eternal damnation if suicide is a sin. Why? Because, Jesus is the propitiation for the sins of the world, He is the appeasement to God's righteous judgement. His blood is sufficient.

    One must keep in mind that if a, truly, born-again Christian commits suicide God already knew that was coming and chose to save them. Just like every one of us, God already knows the sins we will be committing and yet He gave us new life. He took us who were dead in our sins and gave us life in Christ unto good works.

    You see, thats the sad thing about suicide. Those good works never come to be that could've possibly been. How many people could've they encountered and the Holy Spirit convict, to bring to Christ? So many possibilities lost. Suicide as awful as it is does not supersede Christ's finished work on the cross. Its awful, its sad, but its not damnable. Jesus reigns supreme, He loses none that are His.

    PS: A person contemplating suicide is in dire need of hope and purpose. These God offers, just simply seek His will for your life. If you are in Christ, if you are a believer, then you have a purpose within the body of Christ as one of its many members. Each part being essential to its respective role, you are invaluable. Jesus died for you. Take that to heart, and instead of taking your life maybe you'll rather give it to Jesus.
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    To whom does your life belong? Does it belong to you? Does it belong to God? Life is a gift from God. Use it for His glory and be blessed. There is nothing you can do that God cannot forgive you for. God has a purpose and plan for every life on the planet. If you will lay your life down for Him yield your life to His purposes you will be blessed.

    Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

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