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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMBO43 View Post
    my motive is to rid the world of demons but thats really hard there loved so much by people
    Jesus will come and do that.

    Haven't read/understood your whole post yet,but will pray for you and your brother.

    3 possibilities:

    1. You are are troll.
    2. You are serious and honest but mentally ill.
    3. You are undergoing spiritual attack and need spiritual guidance and prayers.

    Since I can't help with first 2, I will choose to speak as if you are the third and pray with you.

    Dear Heavenly father: we ask for Your presence and blessings. Destroy the spiritual forces of wickedness that try and act upon our lives. Show us Your Truth and give us faith and peace and joy to rest upon Your promises. In Jesus Holy name we pray, amen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMBO43 View Post
    when satan wants you dead your dead he wont stop at nothing till he gets what he wants and he can do it.
    remember mob had thousand of demons and i know from my own experience that the demons in side one man can protect him by apearing as your friend to make you blame others befor you blame the person who is possessed,. there cleaver and the fact that they can take up the form of people your friends means they have super natural powers that are far more advanced then you or i and its easy to be decieved as you wouldnt think your best friend would lie to you..
    2 timothy 2: and they may come to there sences of the snare of the devil having been held captive by him to do his will...

    which means possession and sinning whilst in his snare which as you know a snare is a trap that animals can not flee from there is no escape from satans angels and aldults may be more knowledgable and spot it but children will be more mislead and even killed by the snare of the devil as Gods detests this i fear this sin would be high on satans agenda.

    i think God is powerless to destroy satan and never will as he would of allready if he could and we all need to find the truth.
    Wow so much wrong with this post and makes it sound that you worship Satan and think him more powerful than God.

    You are wrong.

    Satan has tried to kill me many times, but God keeps me alive. He is more powerful and until God calls me home. I won't be killed by demons or anything of this world.

    Elisa and Enoch did not die. God called them home....

    Haven't address all the lies in this post just the major one that jumped out as lies from those demons you are listening too more than God and His truth.

    Read the Bible more and pray for His revelation and guidance. Find a good pastor to pray with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMBO43 View Post
    Hi all and greetings i come in peace all tho some of my susspicions may cause un rest i mean nO harm i take stuff with aN enduring heart as i am called to endure so to are you.

    I have many un answered questions my first susspicion is that there are spirituals realms where good spirits hang out and bad spirits i fear have there own realm.

    my knowledge of demons IS one one that apearded as my best friend no doubt trying to get me and my brother to argue and hate each other i now this to be tru as i could see him and my brother couldnt it also turned nasty and changed apearence as I spoke to it but my brother could not hear it or see it i susspect that the demon thought it would get a way with it.

    my believe is that jesus christ came to defeat the devil but yet we where told he will be finaly defeated one day and this i feal is absolutely crazy as demons can ensnare your soul as written in the bible not only this they can make you stumble and sin to much more also they can go undetected in a person all his life and more to the point they can resemble your best friend.

    like as i was talking to it it said very hatefull and knowingly that i was the bady and made reference that i was nothing.
    my best mate being frinds with my brother and not me and i fear that my family members may still be possesed maybe me too as demons can come and go as they please.

    now to my beliefs why IS THIS BEING ALLOWED TO HAPPEN ??????????

    WHERE TOLD that it must be this way till the day of judgement ?? and whats happens to the living who have been possesed all there life who have never been free ?where told how to rid demons from people and we must believe that we can but i know that i still hear that annoying little bad thought that comes in telling you to be horrible or envious or jeolouse or greedy or what ever.
    I think the best way to be is to want for peole to be happy as in my book its just good medacine.

    Theese horrible demons are being allowed to kill to steal to do what ever they like where is our saviour where is he ??

    my suspicions are that we are still yet to reveal hidden scripture from the saints or saints to come.

    and that not all that is written is true but from the words of the scribes to do what a demon did to me and that is to decieve so he can get a way with decieving as after all we are talking a bout a great deciever.

    i fear that are spirit becomes bad or good but the question i have on my heart is it possible that we are sorrounded by negitive energies and positive energies that is a door way to spiritual realms
    The only reason I respond is because of this statement:

    my believe is that jesus christ came to defeat the devil but yet we where told he will be finaly defeated one day


    Focus on that one true statement.

    The rest is mixed up with the demonic lies being whispered in your ear.

    You need much Bible study to be able to discern truth from lies.
    .I will try and make time to address each lie being whispered to you with scripture if I get a chance to later.

    Have a meeting I need to attend first and kids supper, etc.

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    I am going to edit and address your words. Your writing reminds me of my brother in law who has a hard time writing and spelling too.

    Quote Originally Posted by JIMBO43 View Post
    Hi all and greetings, i come in peace. Although some of my suspicions may cause unrest, i mean nO harm.
    Good to know...


    i take stuff with an enduring heart as i am called to endure so to are you.
    nice reminder, but psalm 101 tells us some things we should not endure like a prideful person

    I have many unanswered questions. my first suspicion is that there are spirituals realms where good spirits hang out and bad spirits. i fear they have their own realm.
    yes there are spiritual realms but why are you afraid?

    my knowledge of demons is of one that apearred as my best friend no doubt trying to get me and my brother to argue and hate each other.

    i know this to be true as i could see him and my brother couldnt. it also turned nasty and changed apearence as I spoke to it but my brother could not hear it or see it. i suspect that the demon thought it would get a way with it.
    So you have seen and spoken to a demon who wanted to be Your best friend. Before I came to Christ I had a few myself hanging around me, but after they recognize the HOLY spirit within me and flee. However they still cause havoc in others lives and have built spiritual strongholds in my life and others that have to be torn down through prayer and study of the Bible.

    Will post this and continue in another post.

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    my belief is that jesus christ came to defeat the devil but yet we where told he will be finaly defeated one day.
    true. Christ defeated Satan and got kicked from heaven. Says it in Revelation 11. Revelation 20 is the final battle and when this earth and heaven is destroyed and replaced.

    and this i feel is absolutely crazy as demons can ensnare your soul as written in the bible.
    where does it say that? We need to examine these bible verse in more detail.

    not only this they can make you stumble and sin to much more also they can go undetected in a person all his life and more to the point they can resemble your best friend.
    not undetected, the stinky bad fruit of demonic possession is evident to everyone and those whom God has given the gift of spiritual discernment.

    like as i was talking to it it said very hatefull and knowingly that i was the bady and made reference that i was nothing.
    my best mate being frinds with my brother and not me and i fear that my family members may still be possesed maybe me too as demons can come and go as they please.
    First, demons lie....that is why Satan is called the Father of lies.

    2, don't believe their lies....you are not a 'bady" or bad person if you are saved and washed clean by the blood of the Lamb, you are redeemed by Christ..are you?

    3. You can pray for your family members. Are they saved? Are you saved?

    4. Demons can't come and go as they please. Jesus gives us the power through His Holy Spirit to cast out demons. The question is can you handle the after math?

    If a demon is cast from a person who does not accept Jesus and thus filled with the HOLY spirit for protection...7 more demons will come and the person will be worst off and more hateful and sinful and anger...so first the gospel must be preached and the soul must repent and call for help.

    now to my beliefs why IS THIS BEING ALLOWED TO HAPPEN ??????????
    eventually it will stop when God destroys this world.
    Okay post then continue on next post....

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    We're TOLD that it must be this way till the day of judgement ?
    Yes

    and whats happens to the living who have been possesed all their life who have never been free?
    I don't know but we are called to preach the gospel and help set the captives free when and however we can.


    we're told how to rid demons from people and we must believe that we can.
    true. Do u believe?

    but i know that i still hear that annoying little bad thought that comes in telling you to be horrible or envious or jeolouse or greedy or what ever.
    may be a demon, may be Your flesh..,,Satan spoke to Jesus...follow His example and rebuke the lies with scripture.
    I think the best way to be is to want for people to be happy as in my book its just good medicine.
    wishing for people to happy is good. I pray that people develop a relationship with God and know His love, joy and peace.
    Got to give bedtime kisses to kids, be back soon.

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    These horrible demons are being allowed to kill to steal to do what ever they like where is our saviour where is he ??
    physically He is in heaven. His angels guard and protect us and if we pray we gain wisdom and insight into the spiritual war around us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMBO43 View Post
    when satan wants you dead your dead he wont stop at nothing till he gets what he wants and he can do it.
    remember mob had thousand of demons and i know from my own experience that the demons in side one man can protect him by apearing as your friend to make you blame others befor you blame the person who is possessed,. there cleaver and the fact that they can take up the form of people your friends means they have super natural powers that are far more advanced then you or i and its easy to be decieved as you wouldnt think your best friend would lie to you..
    2 timothy 2: and they may come to there sences of the snare of the devil having been held captive by him to do his will...

    which means possession and sinning whilst in his snare which as you know a snare is a trap that animals can not flee from there is no escape from satans angels and aldults may be more knowledgable and spot it but children will be more mislead and even killed by the snare of the devil as Gods detests this i fear this sin would be high on satans agenda.

    i think God is powerless to destroy satan and never will as he would of allready if he could and we all need to find the truth.
    You need psychiatric help. Please get some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blain View Post
    It's kind of hard to understand you as I am guessing english is not your first language but in the spiritual realm yes there are both good and evil however what you describe about your friend is not demonic possession it's something called human nature we are argue and even attack and kill each other.

    We don't need satans help to do great evil we humans seem to be pretty good at doing that by ourselves, this is not to say that the enemy doesn't have his hand in things but most of the time when we can try to blame it on the devil it's really our doing as humans. And I don't know if your friend is a Christian or not but there are rules even and especially in the spiritual realm and especially with possession.

    A spirit cannot simply take any body they choose they require permission of sorts, firstly if a person has the holy spirit in them the demon cannot enter because only one spirit apart from our own is allowed inside a vessel unless of course a demonic spirit makes home there then that spirit can call several spirits to join them but that would require a very powerful spirit to call that many.
    A spirit can enter a person when a door is opened, many would say it's sin but it's not that simple other wise a spirit could take any body they please which they can't. For instance they require an invitation of sorts like an ouija board for instance, when a person seeks out a spirit using methods such as that they are opening a door of invitation I was lucky and was spared this when I tried the ouja board in my youth but not everyone is so lucky. anther thing to be careful of is being arrogant and straight up challenging the devil, I used to watch this pastor doing live videos and I don't what he was thinking but in his fiery preaching he said I dare the devil no I double dare the devil to attack this vessel of God and the instant he did that the cross on his wall went flying and he was stunned and lost color in his face for like five minutes and then stopped his live streaming.

    But regardless of who is possessed they can only be possessed if they allow permission and demons know this so often times they need to be sneaky and trick the person into giving it even if it's under the guise of being courageous in God. It doesn't matter if a believer cannot be possessed challenging any kind of spirit is a door you never want to open because once you do it may not be so easy to close
    English is the first language in the UK. They speak English more than we do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wwjd_kilden View Post
    While demons are real, what you describe is in no way biblical.

    You need to seek professional help.

    Mental health helplines - Stress, anxiety and depression - NHS Choices
    ok cleaver clogs then you explain this scripture as many have tried to but failed
    1 Samuel 28


    Saul and the Medium at Endor

    3 Now Samuel was dead, and all Israel had mourned for him and buried him in his own town of Ramah. Saul had expelled the mediums and spiritists from the land.

    4 The Philistines assembled and came and set up camp at Shunem, while Saul gathered all Israel and set up camp at Gilboa. 5 When Saul saw the Philistine army, he was afraid; terror filled his heart. 6 He inquired of the Lord, but the Lord did not answer him by dreams or Urim or prophets. 7 Saul then said to his attendants, “Find me a woman who is a medium, so I may go and inquire of her.”

    “There is one in Endor,” they said.

    8 So Saul disguised himself, putting on other clothes, and at night he and two men went to the woman. “Consult a spirit for me,” he said, “and bring up for me the one I name.”

    9 But the woman said to him, “Surely you know what Saul has done. He has cut off the mediums and spiritists from the land. Why have you set a trap for my life to bring about my death?”

    10 Saul swore to her by the Lord, “As surely as the Lord lives, you will not be punished for this.”

    11 Then the woman asked, “Whom shall I bring up for you?”

    “Bring up Samuel,” he said.

    12 When the woman saw Samuel, she cried out at the top of her voice and said to Saul, “Why have you deceived me? You are Saul!”

    13 The king said to her, “Don’t be afraid. What do you see?”

    The woman said, “I see a ghostly figure[a] coming up out of the earth.”

    14 “What does he look like?” he asked.

    “An old man wearing a robe is coming up,” she said.

    Then Saul knew it was Samuel, and he bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground.

    15 Samuel said to Saul, “Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?”

    “I am in great distress,” Saul said. “The Philistines are fighting against me, and God has departed from me. He no longer answers me, either by prophets or by dreams. So I have called on you to tell me what to do.”

    16 Samuel said, “Why do you consult me, now that the Lord has departed from you and become your enemy? 17 The Lord has done what he predicted through me. The Lord has torn the kingdom out of your hands and given it to one of your neighbors—to David. 18 Because you did not obey the Lord or carry out his fierce wrath against the Amalekites, the Lord has done this to you today. 19 The Lord will deliver both Israel and you into the hands of the Philistines, and tomorrow you and your sons will be with me. The Lord will also give the army of Israel into the hands of the Philistines.”

    20 Immediately Saul fell full length on the ground, filled with fear because of Samuel’s words. His strength was gone, for he had eaten nothing all that day and all that night.


    The Witch Of En Dor

    Although the Bible condemns spiritism, or the living talking to the dead, there is an episode in Scripture that seems to give some justification to this practice.

    Biblical Background

    The book of First Samuel gives us the account of the experience of King Saul with a medium at the city of En Dor. The prophet Samuel was dead, and the army of the Philistines had gathered to fight against Israel. Seeing the vast army of the enemy, Saul became afraid. He decided to inquire of the Lord. However God was no longer speaking to Saul because of his continual disobedience. The Bible says.
    And when Saul enquired of the LORD, the LORD did not answer him, either by dreams or by Urim or by the prophets (1 Samuel 28:6).
    Had Turned Back On Saul

    Since God had turned His back on Saul, the king decided to resort to spiritism. Saul had previously put all the witches out of the land.
    Now Samuel had died, and all Israel had mourned for him and buried him in Ramah, his own city. Saul had expelled the mediums and the wizards from the land (1 Samuel 28:3).
    Although all the mediums and spiritists had been driven out of the land, Saul asked his servants to find a medium he could consult about the future, seeing that God would tell him nothing. Discovering that there was a medium at the town of En Dor, Saul disguised himself to get information about the future.

    Consulting The Medium

    Saul came to the medium at En Dor at night. He asked her to bring up the prophet Samuel for him. The Bible says the following thing happened.
    When the woman saw Samuel, she cried out at the top of her voice and said to Saul, "Why have you deceived me? You are Saul!" The king said to her, "Don't be afraid. What do you see?" The woman said, "I see a spirit coming up out of the ground" (1 Samuel 28:12,13).
    Samuel spoke to Saul saying.
    Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up? (1 Samuel 28:15).
    Samuel complained about being disturbed from his place in the realm of the dead.

    Predicted Death

    Samuel then went on to predict that Saul would die the next day. The Scripture tells us that Saul did indeed die as Samuel predicted.
    The battle pressed hard upon Saul; the archers found him, and he was badly wounded by them. Then Saul said to his armor-bearer, "Draw your sword and thrust me through with it, so that these uncircumcised may not come and thrust me through, and make sport of me." But his armor-bearer was unwilling; for he was terrified. So Saul took his own sword and fell upon it. When his armor-bearer saw that Saul was dead, he also fell upon his sword and died with him (1 Samuel 31:3-5).

    Number Of Questions To Answer

    There are a number of questions to answer concerning this account: Who appeared to Saul? Was it the prophet Samuel? If it was not Samuel who appeared to Saul, then what happened? Was it a trick by the witch, some sort of demonic manifestation, or some hallucination by Saul? If it was Samuel, then how was he able to appear? Did God allow him to speak to Saul, or did the witch have the power to call up the righteous dead.

    The questions have been long-debated with advocates to be found for each point.

    Option 1: Samuel Did Not Appear

    It is possible that Samuel did not appear to Saul. There are many arguments that are raised against an actual appearance of Samuel. They are as follows:

    1. Why Speak To Saul This Way?

    Saul had earlier attempted to inquire of the Lord but He would not speak to him through the biblically ordained means? Why then would the Lord speak to Saul through a medium at a seance?

    2. Bible Condemns Mediums

    God has always spoken against consulting mediums in the strongest of terms. Why would He act contrary to what He had previously revealed? Since God does not change, this could not have been an authentic appearance of Samuel.

    3. Strange Place For Miracle

    This would have been a strange place for God to perform a miracle. There is no similar example in Scripture of God speaking His Word in the midst of such an obvious evil situation.

    4. Prophecy Did Not Come To Pass

    Some have argued that the prediction did not come to pass. Saul was not killed by his enemies, rather he killed himself. Therefore the prophecy was false. Since it was a false prophecy, it could not have been given by God.

    5. Dead Cannot Return

    Furthermore, the Bible teaches that the dead cannot return to the living. After the death of his son, David testified that the child could not return to him.
    But now that he is dead, why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me (2 Samuel 12:23).
    Since the Bible teaches the dead cannot return, this could not have been the appearance of dead prophet Samuel.

    6. Seems To Give Credence For Spiritism

    A final objection to the genuine appearance of Samuel is that it seems to give some sort of credence to the living talking to the dead. If God allowed it on this one occasion, why wouldn't He do it on other occasions? This opens the door for believers to dabble into areas in which God expressly forbids them.

    What Did Happen?

    If this is the case, then there are basically three things that could have happened when Saul met the medium.

    1. A Demonic Spirit Spoke To Saul

    It has been argued that the witch actually called up a spirit from the afterlife, but that spirit was not Samuel. It was a demon impersonating Samuel. This demon, impersonating Samuel, told Saul only part of the truth. The Bible teaches that demons are able to utter half-truths. The Book of Acts tells us that a woman who was possessed with an evil spirit followed the Apostle Paul.
    While she followed Paul and us, she would cry out, "These men are slaves of the Most High God, who proclaim to you a way of salvation" (Acts 16:17).
    Part of what she said was true - the apostles were proclaiming the true way of salvation. However her overall message was one of deception.

    Response

    The text does not represent this as a demon impersonation. If it was a demonic spirit instead of Samuel, why did this spirit tell the entire truth? There were no-half truths in the response of this personage to Saul. This is not consistent with the way demon spirits work. The message sounded like something Samuel himself would have said, if he were still alive. This is one of many signs in the account that it was an authentic appearance of Samuel.

    2. It Was A Fake Appearance

    There is also the view that the witch faked Samuel's appearance. Saul was tricked into believing that it was really Samuel when it was only some type of deception on the part of the witch. The arguments for this are as follows:

    Woman Called A Ventriloquist

    The Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Old Testament, uses the word eggastrimuthos (ventriloquist) to describe the woman (verse 9) and those who practice the same type of divination. This indicates that she had the ability to deceive people into thinking there was some other personage present by the throwing of her voice.

    Probably Recognized Saul

    Though she pretended ignorance, she probably recognized Saul from the beginning. We should not assume that his disguise fooled her.

    Saul Prevented From Viewing Samuel

    In addition, it was only she that saw Samuel. Saul did not. He was prevented from viewing the spirit. Consequently she only pretended to be surprised by the appearance of Samuel when, most likely, she saw nothing.

    Relied On What She Said

    Since the king saw and heard nothing, he had to rely on the woman to tell him what this spirit was saying. He did not converse directly to Samuel.

    Not A Great Prediction

    To say that Saul would die the next day in battle was not any great prediction seeing that they were outnumbered by the Philistines.

    Saul Killed Himself

    Finally, Saul did not die by the hand of the Philistines the next day, he killed himself after he had been wounded.

    All these arguments have lead many to assume we have a hoax on the part of the woman and not a genuine appearance of Samuel.
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    no many believe that the raised spirit was actually a demon resembling samuel and so do i as i have witnessed the same thing
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    no many believe that the raised spirit was actually a demon resembling samuel and so do i as i have witnessed the same thing
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    dont think it could be Woman Called A Ventriloquist as it clearly states that samuel said to paul

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    Your paranoia about demons around you have nothing to do with what is described in the bible.
    Have you talked to your minister about this since you are so certain about this? Or is it only online you air your views?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurenTM View Post
    ummmmm.......

    a little funky IMO

    will wait and see.........

    I'm probably 60%+ in favor of funky
    I'm leaning that way myself.
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    You need psychiatric help. Please get some.
    ...and strong medicine.
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    Originally Posted by Blain It's kind of hard to understand you as I am guessing english is not your first language but in the spiritual realm yes there are both good and evil however what you describe about your friend is not demonic possession it's something called human nature we are argue and even attack and kill each other.

    We don't need satans help to do great evil we humans seem to be pretty good at doing that by ourselves, this is not to say that the enemy doesn't have his hand in things but most of the time when we can try to blame it on the devil it's really our doing as humans. And I don't know if your friend is a Christian or not but there are rules even and especially in the spiritual realm and especially with possession.

    A spirit cannot simply take any body they choose they require permission of sorts, firstly if a person has the holy spirit in them the demon cannot enter because only one spirit apart from our own is allowed inside a vessel unless of course a demonic spirit makes home there then that spirit can call several spirits to join them but that would require a very powerful spirit to call that many.
    A spirit can enter a person when a door is opened, many would say it's sin but it's not that simple other wise a spirit could take any body they please which they can't. For instance they require an invitation of sorts like an ouija board for instance, when a person seeks out a spirit using methods such as that they are opening a door of invitation I was lucky and was spared this when I tried the ouja board in my youth but not everyone is so lucky. anther thing to be careful of is being arrogant and straight up challenging the devil, I used to watch this pastor doing live videos and I don't what he was thinking but in his fiery preaching he said I dare the devil no I double dare the devil to attack this vessel of God and the instant he did that the cross on his wall went flying and he was stunned and lost color in his face for like five minutes and then stopped his live streaming.

    But regardless of who is possessed they can only be possessed if they allow permission and demons know this so often times they need to be sneaky and trick the person into giving it even if it's under the guise of being courageous in God. It doesn't matter if a believer cannot be possessed challenging any kind of spirit is a door you never want to open because once you do it may not be so easy to close


    [/QUOTE]and do you think a child would follow all that you say ?? such as they can only be possessed if they allow it
    sorry but your sadly mistaken and do you think the denomic spirit would say rrrrrrrrrrr hes only a child we will leave him or her alone
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    ...and strong medicine.
    actualy i bet most would need psychiatric help after being on the recieving end of someone who is possessed especially a child who gets beat up daily by someone who is possessed and not only that they need prayer not insulting big mouths like you

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    Your paranoia about demons around you have nothing to do with what is described in the bible.
    Have you talked to your minister about this since you are so certain about this? Or is it only online you air your views?
    well then you must be reading a book of lies then

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMBO43 View Post
    actualy i bet most would need psychiatric help after being on the recieving end of someone who is possessed especially a child who gets beat up daily by someone who is possessed and not only that they need prayer not insulting big mouths like you
    We all are in need of prayer. I will say one for you.
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