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    They're hard to park...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMBO43 View Post
    ok then would it be fair to say that the enemy has an unfair advantage on the unsaved
    what the Lord has decreed and allowed is perfectly fair.


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    > 100% ???

    more human than human?

    nope that you could be tricked by a demon to believe a lie

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    take me to your Leader


    hungry cat.jpg
    Take me to your feeder
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMBO43 View Post
    i think the demons must be here for a reason then and maybe they didnt fall after all maybe thats a lie too
    everything is for a reason. that doesn't mean nothing is fallen.

    the fall is for a reason too;

    it's written, '
    God has shut up everyone under disobedience so that He may show mercy to all' - but then you said you don't believe what's written, didn't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMBO43 View Post
    nope that you could be tricked by a demon to believe a lie
    about that Leader tho

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    Bring on the fish...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88 View Post
    Bring on the fish...
    chicken is more healthy for them but they really do love fish.
    My life's testimony seems to have helped many people so I am going to put it here http://christianchat.com/testimonies...-new-post.html

    When the hearts of God and a child of his make that special intimate connection a wondrous power is born and a flame ignites that can never be put out

    Jesus knew more than anyone of us-Love hurts

    A fired up Christian shouldn't be that big a deal. Our love should be an overpowering burning desire to serve and be in His presence

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMBO43 View Post
    nope that you could be tricked by a demon to believe a lie
    as though possible

    For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders,
    so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

    (Matthew 24:24)

    however the apostle, writing to those in Christ:

    And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you.
    (Philippians 3:15)

    oh whoops but these things are also written, and i'm using them to talk.
    do you believe them or not, Jimbo? or does your
    free will get to decide what is right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88 View Post
    Bring on the fish...
    My lunch today was fish tacos
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    Off to Red Lobster...
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    tuna salad is almost ready. then bed.

    early AM tomorrow for post

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    free will to change my work schedule. unless you count quitting.))
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    Are they legal...
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    Night post. Have a restful sleep and a blessed day tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel82 View Post
    My lunch today was fish tacos
    fish-tacos.jpg
    eeewwwwwww I hate fish, make that taco a chicken taco oo or even better steak taco mmmmm....
    My life's testimony seems to have helped many people so I am going to put it here http://christianchat.com/testimonies...-new-post.html

    When the hearts of God and a child of his make that special intimate connection a wondrous power is born and a flame ignites that can never be put out

    Jesus knew more than anyone of us-Love hurts

    A fired up Christian shouldn't be that big a deal. Our love should be an overpowering burning desire to serve and be in His presence

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    Quote Originally Posted by posthuman View Post
    as though possible

    For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders,
    so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

    (Matthew 24:24)

    however the apostle, writing to those in Christ:

    And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you.
    (Philippians 3:15)

    oh whoops but these things are also written, and i'm using them to talk.
    do you believe them or not, Jimbo? or does your
    free will get to decide what is right?

    common sence tells me something diffrent that once saved allways saved but yet it seems after jesus has cast out demons from a person that person is not saved as the demons can come back.

    just logic tells me that was there any point to saving him in the first place as where also told that no one snatches one of mine away so there ya goo the bible as i know it is it diffrent to how you know it and there are lies in it i fear and sadly i fear that where all being led a stray by words of deception people like you who think its ok god has allowed it

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    1. Jesus doesn't cast out demons from people He doesn't also saved, so your logic is flawed.

    However, pretenders with do this "miracle" to amass power, money and prestige and demons will pretend to further deceive. The whole angel of light phenomenon.

    2. Once saved always saved is dependent that people are actually saved and not pretenders. That they actually have the Holy Spirit protecting, guiding and teaching them. That they heard and believed the true Gospel not the lies and false gospel of works or unrepentant materialism and emotionalism that many falsely claim to be the gospel but are really just candy coated dung.that they have humble and repentant hearts that truly seek God through His grace and not prideful harden hearts that seek only power or control over others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMBO43 View Post
    common sence tells me something diffrent that once saved allways saved but yet it seems after jesus has cast out demons from a person that person is not saved as the demons can come back.

    just logic tells me that was there any point to saving him in the first place as where also told that no one snatches one of mine away so there ya goo the bible as i know it is it diffrent to how you know it and there are lies in it i fear and sadly i fear that where all being led a stray by words of deception people like you who think its ok god has allowed it
    hi, i'm back for a bit while i have breakfast. told you it was an early AM!

    i think you may not quite understand what i think.

    you're quoting John 10:28, that His sheep know His voice, and come to Him, and no one can snatch them away.
    but did you also read John 10:26 ?
    to the people He was talking to when He said this, He said:

    But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep.

    so not everyone is His sheep. what then, if the judgement of heaven is that God gives over to darkness the people who hate the light?

    and what if the voice that tells you the Bible is peppered with lies is actually the voice that is lying?
    hmm why would a demon do that - why would a demon want you to doubt the word of God?
    someone once said, "
    did God really say ... ?"

    He really said that not everyone who says "
    Lord, Lord" enters His kingdom. He really said that some people are not His sheep. the reality is that the light shined among men and men hated it. so, if you're thinking demons must be good after all because everyone is saved, everyone is His sheep, therefore the scripture is lying, well..
    the problem is that no, not everyone is saved. no, not everyone is His sheep. therefore no, the scripture is not lying -- not on that basis.

    the King is coming back, and He will sit in judgement. how will He judge if there is nothing to be judged?

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    When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house swept clean and put in order. Then it goes and takes seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first.
    (Luke 11:24-26)

    amen, yes.

    but what if the house is not unoccupied when that evil spirit returns?
    what if it is occupied now by something greater than any devil? greater than 7,000 devils?



    probably the lesson here is that it is useless to cast demons out of someone and leave the house empty. maybe even worse than useless: a person can wind up with 8 demons instead of just the one. wonder how that man possessed by a legion of devils came to have so many? heh.
    Christ said this when they accused Him of casting out demons by the Devils power. well, this is what happens if that is the case. using devils to cast out devils doesn't help anyone out but the devils themselves, in the long run.

    but is the help of Christ effective or not???
    for His own sheep. but for those that hate Him, His help will rise up and condemn them - are they better off remaining blind then they are seeing, and refusing what they see?

    so, more important is that the house becomes occupied, so it is secure. and this then is how no one can snatch His own sheep from His hand: because His hand remains with them. this is the Shepherd, the Good One: the one who does not abandon His sheep, but when they wander off, He goes after them, and finds them. a bad shepherd would shrug his shoulders and just chalk off anyone missing as lost, never leaving the comfort of the campfire.



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    its all gone quiet so a quick post befor a coco then sleepy boes
    Well i suppose it must be for the individual to ask jesus in if all this is true in scripture but i really struggle with this sripture it really is mind blowing.

    And are theese conditions that one must ask with a sincere heart for Jesus to dwell with in like the Holy Spirit can be every where so does the holy spirit flee from demons ?


    Because where im looking at it is that how can a demon possessed person ask for jesus its crazy but true and how can temptation of a child be a good thing ?
    as it really cant be verry popular in the parenthood thats why you go at great lenghts to protect your child.

    But then seeing satan hates God he hates you just as bad as seen in this scripture
    Ephesians 6:12New International Version (NIV)

    12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

    So im stilll on the fence that theres more to it than whats written in the bible

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