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    Default European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    I have found this article on the internet:
    Frost: Why Do Europeans Have So Many Hair and Eye Colors?

    " If the sexual selection hypothesis is true, MC1R and OCA2 variability should have developed almost entirely during this time window (c. 25,000 - 10,000 BP)"

    How you, who believe in a recent creation, explain the diversity of the European race hair and eye colors in your short time view?
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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    why do people give creator God such little credit.

    He made the heavens and the earth in seven days, If he can do this, He can certainly code different color hair and eyes in the DNA genome..
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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by trofimus View Post

    How you, who believe in a recent creation, explain the diversity of the European race hair and eye colors in your short time view?
    I don't have a strong opinion on how long it is since creation but

    .... cats within one species can have different eye colours .... no one seems to think that is strange
    why is it so strange when we are talking about humans?

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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    Because when we are speaking of humans, some folks have to take God out of the equation and give all the credit to evolutionary changes. Funny though, after all these years, they can not yet find ONE species that evolved into a higher and entirely different species.
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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    Could you please at least read the article and then say what you think that happened and in what time span?

    Your responses "God did it" do not clarify anything.
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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by wwjd_kilden View Post
    I don't have a strong opinion on how long it is since creation but

    .... cats within one species can have different eye colours .... no one seems to think that is strange
    why is it so strange when we are talking about humans?
    If the cats all over the world were black and then on the small part of the planet they would be in all possible colors, it would be a strange thing too.

    What is your explanation for this and when did these variations took place?
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    God
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    Adaption


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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by p_rehbein View Post
    Because when we are speaking of humans, some folks have to take God out of the equation and give all the credit to evolutionary changes. Funny though, after all these years, they can not yet find ONE species that evolved into a higher and entirely different species.
    the Coywolf or grolar bear... Though not from one but two, just like anything it takes two to make a thing go right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by trofimus View Post
    I have found this article on the internet:
    Frost: Why Do Europeans Have So Many Hair and Eye Colors?

    " If the sexual selection hypothesis is true, MC1R and OCA2 variability should have developed almost entirely during this time window (c. 25,000 - 10,000 BP)"

    How you, who believe in a recent creation, explain the diversity of the European race hair and eye colors in your short time view?


    I have no doubt that some people are mixed with Neanderthals'...why there is proof right in this forum!


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    Quote Originally Posted by trofimus View Post
    If the cats all over the world were black and then on the small part of the planet they would be in all possible colors, it would be a strange thing too.

    What is your explanation for this and when did these variations took place?
    I think this poster caused it...yes, it was this poster.........


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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    from the article:

    But why is hair and eye color so much more diverse in Europe than elsewhere? Perhaps because sexual selection was much stronger among ancestral Europeans than in other human populations.
    don't you watch tv?

    it was the Vikings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwjd_kilden View Post
    God
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    Pretty much in short order, first the eyes need to adapt to their environment then they evolve into something that is compatible with that environment.. A example would be Asian eyes, because of the brightness of the sun shinning off the Pacific Ocean and being fishermen on the water their eyes adapted/evolved so they didn't have to use as many eyes muscles to see through the glare off the water...

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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by trofimus View Post
    I have found this article on the internet:
    Frost: Why Do Europeans Have So Many Hair and Eye Colors?

    " If the sexual selection hypothesis is true, MC1R and OCA2 variability should have developed almost entirely during this time window (c. 25,000 - 10,000 BP)"

    How you, who believe in a recent creation, explain the diversity of the European race hair and eye colors in your short time view?
    My grandfather was 5'6"
    My grandmother was 5'2"
    My mother was 5'1"
    My father was 5'9"
    I am 6'5"
    How do you explain that?

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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    That IS NOT EVOLUTION though.............is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeyondET View Post
    the Coywolf or grolar bear... Though not from one but two, just like anything it takes two to make a thing go right...
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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by trofimus View Post
    I have found this article on the internet:
    Frost: Why Do Europeans Have So Many Hair and Eye Colors?

    " If the sexual selection hypothesis is true, MC1R and OCA2 variability should have developed almost entirely during this time window (c. 25,000 - 10,000 BP)"

    How you, who believe in a recent creation, explain the diversity of the European race hair and eye colors in your short time view?

    Have you ever had a course of "genetics" .......It is that simple........

    Example: We all have a Blood type. That Blood types are A, B, O or AB. The A and B genes are dominant over the O gene.

    Each person has two genes associated with their Blood Type. If a person has type A blood, the two genes they have can be either AA or AO

    The same for the B genes you either have BB or BO

    The type AB genes are a little different. If a person has a type AB, their genes will be ???AB.....Since each A and B genes are dominate over O but not over each other the person's blood type will AB regardless of which position the genes are in (i.e. BA or AB are the same)

    The type O genes are recessive to A and B... Thus a person with a type O Blood type have two O genes.

    OK so far??????/...... Now you have two parents each with two sets of genes and to blood types. WHen they have a baby, each parent donates one set of genes to the baby. Which set of genes each parent gives to the bay will determine what the babies blood type is.

    In order to shorten this out, I'll do one example below. However, haircolor, eyes, etc all have two genes that determine what they are in a person. THIS IS NOT EVOLUTION!!!!!!/

    Parent #1 has A type blood with a phenotype of AO....
    Parent #2 has B type Blood with a phenotype of BO...

    Lets take for simplicity the first gene of each parent,, If the Baby has the A from P#1 and B fro P#2..
    the babies blood type will be AB

    Lets take the second gene of each parent.. O from P#1 and O from P#2,,,,Baby will be OO for a blood type of O

    Lets cross the 1 and 2 gene from each parent.... A from P#1 to O from P#2 ...Baby will be AO for a Blood type of A

    The last cross is..... B from P#2 to O from P#1....... The Baby will be BO for a Blood type of B

    Therefore each baby they have will have a 25% chance of having any of the above Bloodtypes. A, B, AB, O

    Again this is genetics,,,,NOT Evolution.....

    Besides, I just do not think I came from a ROCK millions of years ago.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Persuaded View Post
    My grandfather was 5'6"
    My grandmother was 5'2"
    My mother was 5'1"
    My father was 5'9"
    I am 6'5"
    How do you explain that?

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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by trofimus View Post
    I have found this article on the internet:
    Frost: Why Do Europeans Have So Many Hair and Eye Colors?

    " If the sexual selection hypothesis is true, MC1R and OCA2 variability should have developed almost entirely during this time window (c. 25,000 - 10,000 BP)"

    How you, who believe in a recent creation, explain the diversity of the European race hair and eye colors in your short time view?
    Jesus said is anything impossible with God,which He can create all this creation,birds of many sorts,cats of many sorts,dogs of many sorts,trees of many sorts,fish of many sorts,animals of many sorts,this of many sorts,and that of many sorts,this and that of many sorts,and that and this of many sorts,and people want to say how come Europeans have different hair color and eyes does that prove evolution.

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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Persuaded View Post
    My grandfather was 5'6"
    My grandmother was 5'2"
    My mother was 5'1"
    My father was 5'9"
    I am 6'5"
    How do you explain that?
    Persuaded where are your other grand parents..What about your GR-Grand-parents or their parents(GR-GR- Grand parents).

    You see when you back on that family tree, you pick up stuff (genes) one cannot account for unless they know what they were.
    Like the Bereans in Acts 17:11 (KJV) "These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

    With Jesus Christ as your savior, The Holy Spirit will teach you if you are willing to learn from Him. He will guide you in daily activities if you will listen to Him. He will protect and maintain your soul in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit if you will let Him.

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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    I'm mixed race, my mother was British, white, brown hair, brown eyes.
    Don't know who my father was but he gave me a nice suntan.

    Apart from the sun tan I look like my mum. Nuff said.

    God created Adam and Eve and the entire universe. If he can do all that, it's no
    stretch of the imagination to suppose he put in them the genetic diversity we see.


    Take a look at the link below to see how random genetics can be, this took just 9
    months, they did not evolve, they were born.

    Now just suppose Adam and Eve had the genetic diversity in their makeup, every
    child and subsequent grandchild etc could have looked different.

    Plus we know from the bible that different families settled in different parts of the
    country. Add to the picture that human beings naturally tend to be attracted to people
    who look like them and you can easily see how the different people groups in
    different places and different characteristics came about. It's nothing to do with evolution.
    We all come from the same race, the human race.

    Black and white twins: Meet the sisters who 'couldn’t look more different if they tried' - Mirror Online
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    we are not.

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    Default Re: European race diversity - a proof of evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miri View Post
    I'm mixed race, my mother was British, white, brown hair, brown eyes.
    Don't know who my father was but he gave me a nice suntan.

    Apart from the sun tan I look like my mum. Nuff said.

    God created Adam and Eve and the entire universe. If he can do all that, it's no
    stretch of the imagination to suppose he put in them the genetic diversity we see.


    Take a look at the link below to see how random genetics can be, this took just 9
    months, they did not evolve, they were born.

    Now just suppose Adam and Eve had the genetic diversity in their makeup, every
    child and subsequent grandchild etc could have looked different.

    Plus we know from the bible that different families settled in different parts of the
    country. Add to the picture that human beings naturally tend to be attracted to people
    who look like them and you can easily see how the different people groups in
    different places and different characteristics came about. It's nothing to do with evolution.
    We all come from the same race, the human race.

    Black and white twins: Meet the sisters who 'couldn’t look more different if they tried' - Mirror Online
    Yes, but angels breeding with humans could play a role in our diversity.

    Genesis 6.
    Mommy, where's fluffy?

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