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    In my view, it is not. Rather than calling it backsliding,
    I believe that it has never been. It is possible to read
    the words, intellectually believe the words; but not
    inherit the Kingdom of God through His Spirit. Once we
    have surrendered to Him, there is no going back. What
    is there to go back to since His Kingdom is paradise and
    if paradise penetrates the soul; thoughts of the flesh no
    longer exist.

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    Is it possible for a Christian to be immature, confused, unsure, deceived?

    “How foolish can you be? After starting your new lives in the Spirit, why are you now trying to become perfect by your own human effort?”
    Gal 3:3



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    yes I believe you can, by this verse and others

    2 Peter 2:20-22English Standard Version (ESV)

    20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. 21 For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.”

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    Yes you can backslide. None of us are perfect and won't be until those in Christ receive their immortal incorruptible bodies.God forgives backsliders if they confess and repent for their ways.
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    Romans 10:13 - For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
    Acts 3:19 - Repent therefore and turn to God, so that your sins may be blotted out, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord.
    Ephesians 6:11 - Put on the whole armor of God, so that you can stand firm against the schemes of the devil.

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    "If paradise penetrates the soul; thoughts of the flesh no longer exist" is not biblical, and I don't think it is biblically sound. Paul didn't write, "wretched man that I was" in Romans 7. John did write, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

    Increasing sanctification, increasing conformity to Christ, decreasing overt sin, increasing sensitivity to our failures, yes. Sinless perfectionism in this life, which is what the OP appears to assert, no. The more I grow in Christ, the more I see just how much I need His mercy... continuously.
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    His sheep know His voice, and follow Him.

    If ever you hear Him speak, His voice will penetrate to the very depths of your being.

    My mind scrambled, and I faltered. I did not want to believe it was even possible.

    And yet everything within me knew that God had spoken to me.

    The same God I had been running from for the majority of my life was the One
    Who repeatedly showed up as I sought the Truth behind that which is seen.

    For me, it was a fearful thing to fall into His hands. Yet now I know
    I have nothing to fear, for His perfect love has cast fear out.

    People sometimes wonder, why does He not speak to them? We are to live by faith.

    When God revealed Himself to me I was on the precipice of death,
    willfully running from Him in rebellion and defiance. God is not slack.

    As much as I tried to rationalize away the experience and find some other
    explanation that was more acceptable to my natural mind, I could not.

    I was forty eight years old when that happened.
    A year later I was water baptized into the body of Christ


    Embrace the Grace and Rejoice in His Everlasting Mercy and Love

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeNChrist View Post
    Is it possible for a Christian to be immature, confused, unsure, deceived?
    Happens all the time

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    Answer to the OP... Yes.

    Unless you have a different understanding of the term "backsliding" than I do.
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    No man is really saved unless he is in his heart obedient to Christ. C.H. Spurgeon

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeNChrist View Post
    Is it possible for a Christian to be immature, confused, unsure, deceived?
    (Warning: do not have any liquids in your mouth when reading the next line. It hurts too much coming out the nose.)

    It is possible for any Christian but MEEEEE!!!!
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    And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. Rom. 8:28

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyRhodes View Post
    In my view, it is not. Rather than calling it backsliding,
    I believe that it has never been. It is possible to read
    the words, intellectually believe the words; but not
    inherit the Kingdom of God through His Spirit. Once we
    have surrendered to Him, there is no going back. What
    is there to go back to since His Kingdom is paradise and
    if paradise penetrates the soul; thoughts of the flesh no
    longer exist.
    Nice dream.

    Not my reality.
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    Lynn

    Still woman, but no lady.

    And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. Rom. 8:28

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    If backsliding is a momentary lapse? Yes. If backsliding is to leave Him altogether? No.
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    Jeepers Creepers...we gotta get new peepers.

    Mat 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyRhodes View Post
    In my view, it is not. Rather than calling it backsliding,
    I believe that it has never been. It is possible to read
    the words, intellectually believe the words; but not
    inherit the Kingdom of God through His Spirit. Once we
    have surrendered to Him, there is no going back. What
    is there to go back to since His Kingdom is paradise and
    if paradise penetrates the soul; thoughts of the flesh no
    longer exist.
    People endure hardships that are beyond their understanding, and in the midst of their confusion they become weak in faith, if not flat out discouraged or worse. They feel cheated or abandoned and walk away from having an active relationship with God. That backsliding. It is when the dust settles one way or another that they once again draw near to God. Sadly, not everyone returns to having faith in and a relationship with God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utah View Post
    People endure hardships that are beyond their understanding, and in the midst of their confusion they become weak in faith, if not flat out discouraged or worse. They feel cheated or abandoned and walk away from having an active relationship with God. That backsliding. It is when the dust settles one way or another that they once again draw near to God. Sadly, not everyone returns to having faith in and a relationship with God.
    Peter the night Jesus was arrested.
    His world fell apart and he did not understand what was happening.
    Yes, backsliding is possible.
    We are all in danger at any time.
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    Can we be destroyed by what we do in this earth by living by the flesh instead of the spirit? Try taking up shooting heroin in your arms every day and you will see the Lord before your time.
    The new man in Christ - the new creation that is created in righteousness and

    holiness hears the heart voice of the Spirit and not an old head noise of the letter

    of the word. The Pharisees knew "bible knowledge" but they did not

    know God's heart and so they erred in really understanding what the

    scriptures were saying.


    The Lord wants us to look through His eyes and to live from His heart towards

    people, towards Him and towards ourselves as well.

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    Perhaps this our individual experiences will define our answer to this OP? I've had this question come to me several times when my faith was questioned by the events of my life. Especially betrayal by loved loved ones. I had to answer where would I go?

    There is no other answer. Only He has the right answers for our lives, and waiting on Him to move changed the circumstances.
    Jeepers Creepers...we gotta get new peepers.

    Mat 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyRhodes View Post
    In my view, it is not. Rather than calling it backsliding,
    I believe that it has never been. It is possible to read
    the words, intellectually believe the words; but not
    inherit the Kingdom of God through His Spirit. Once we
    have surrendered to Him, there is no going back. What
    is there to go back to since His Kingdom is paradise and
    if paradise penetrates the soul; thoughts of the flesh no
    longer exist.
    "thoughts of the flesh no longer exist" -- ???? I have been a believer a long time and have not even come near to any sort of reality even close to this! I am very much living in my flesh and am very susceptible to thinking thoughts that are not of God. I would hope and pray I can come much closer to this reality, but I do not expect to find that such thoughts "no longer exist!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace777x70 View Post
    Can we be destroyed by what we do in this earth by living by the flesh instead of the spirit? Try taking up shooting heroin in your arms every day and you will see the Lord before your time.
    Fentanyl deaths are an epidemic here; two people a day dying from overdoses

    A friend of mine in the NA program used to say, we need to get ahold of these
    people before the devil puts them in the ground. That made a lot of sense to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester View Post
    "thoughts of the flesh no longer exist" -- ???? I have been a believer a long time and have not even come near to any sort of reality even close to this! I am very much living in my flesh and am very susceptible to thinking thoughts that are not of God. I would hope and pray I can come much closer to this reality, but I do not expect to find that such thoughts "no longer exist!"
    I'm with you Chester. Not proud of it , but just being honest with myself.
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    Ya'll are a bunch of reprobates and lovers of sinning!

    Just kidding.........we will have the flesh with us until we leave this earth suit. We don't "pretty up the flesh". The flesh will always be here with us and in that flesh is the law of sin.

    This is why we can see a seemingly mature Christian like a pastor for over 30 years all of a sudden do something that he hasn't done for decades. He failed to walk by the spirit and thus gave in to the deceitfulness of the sin that is in his flesh.

    We don't stop doing the works of the flesh to walk by the spirit. That's religion and backwards and that will never work. We can by our own will-power stop some things for awhile but they can creep back in.

    We walk by the spirit and thus not fulfill the lusts of the flesh to do "it's" desires.

    Galatians 5:16 (NASB)
    16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.


    Romans 13:14 (NASB)
    14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh in regard to its lusts.

    The truth is - we can be going to church every day that the doors are open, be pastoring a church, be reading the scriptures every day and still be in a "backslidden" place because we are not really walking by the spirit.

    There is "good-looking" flesh and "bad-looking" flesh depending on our religious beliefs but in the end - it is all flesh.

    Let's endeavor to learn how to walk by the spirit and put on Christ that is in us in our new creation - then people will see the love and grace of God towards them and God will be glorified in us as He bears His fruit in and through us.
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    The new man in Christ - the new creation that is created in righteousness and

    holiness hears the heart voice of the Spirit and not an old head noise of the letter

    of the word. The Pharisees knew "bible knowledge" but they did not

    know God's heart and so they erred in really understanding what the

    scriptures were saying.


    The Lord wants us to look through His eyes and to live from His heart towards

    people, towards Him and towards ourselves as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeNChrist View Post
    Is it possible for a Christian to be immature, confused, unsure, deceived?
    The Prodigal son.....and he was a son throughout the whole process............

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