UNDESERVED PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT

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[TD="class: yiv9034202300mcnTextContent, align: center"]…Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
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[TD="class: yiv9034202300mcnTextContent"][h=2]- JANUARY 15 -
GOD GIVES YOU UNDESERVED PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT[/h][HR][/HR]When you fly first class in an airplane, the cabin crew gives you first-class treatment. They ask you, “Is everything okay with you, sir?” They ask you what magazines you want to read. They give you a blanket if you are cold. They give you the best kinds of food. They give you preferential treatment compared to those traveling in economy class.
The grace of God is defined as “undeserved, unearned and unmerited favor”. And one of the definitions for favor is “preferential treatment”! Today, God wants you to know that you have His favor on you. He wants you to know that He gives you preferential treatment which you do not deserve. And He wants you to depend on and take full advantage of it in your life.
God also wants you to know that His favor in your life can be increased. You can experience more of His favor from day to day. How? The Bible tells us in 2 Peter 1:2 that God’s grace (or favor) is multiplied to us “in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord”. The more you behold Jesus and His love for you, the more you believe and confess that God’s favor is on you, the more you will see His favor work for you.
So if you are a doctor, you will find patients favoring you and you will have more patients than you can handle. If you are a businessman, you will find people just wanting to do business with you because they like you and feel good about you. Then, you will have more business than you can handle and you will need to plan for expansion!
When the favor of God shines on your church, you will find its premises too small for the people who queue up week after week to attend the services! So when people wonder and ask, “What is happening here?” you can tell them, “It is the favor of God multiplied all over us!” And it is all undeserved, unearned and unmerited!

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GOD GIVES YOU UNDESERVED PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT[/h][HR][/HR]When you fly first class in an airplane, the cabin crew gives you first-class treatment. They ask you, “Is everything okay with you, sir?” They ask you what magazines you want to read. They give you a blanket if you are cold. They give you the best kinds of food. They give you preferential treatment compared to those traveling in economy class.
The grace of God is defined as “undeserved, unearned and unmerited favor”. And one of the definitions for favor is “preferential treatment”! Today, God wants you to know that you have His favor on you. He wants you to know that He gives you preferential treatment which you do not deserve. And He wants you to depend on and take full advantage of it in your life.
God also wants you to know that His favor in your life can be increased. You can experience more of His favor from day to day. How? The Bible tells us in 2 Peter 1:2 that God’s grace (or favor) is multiplied to us “in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord”. The more you behold Jesus and His love for you, the more you believe and confess that God’s favor is on you, the more you will see His favor work for you.
So if you are a doctor, you will find patients favoring you and you will have more patients than you can handle. If you are a businessman, you will find people just wanting to do business with you because they like you and feel good about you. Then, you will have more business than you can handle and you will need to plan for expansion!
When the favor of God shines on your church, you will find its premises too small for the people who queue up week after week to attend the services! So when people wonder and ask, “What is happening here?” you can tell them, “It is the favor of God multiplied all over us!” And it is all undeserved, unearned and unmerited!

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While I appreciate your zeal....are you the press agent of Joseph Prince?
 

joaniemarie

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Even as i repost this i'm aware there will be a lot here who don't see Jesus this way. And that is really disappointing to me as a believer. It means the fellowship with some won't be sweet or free flowing. It also means many are not finding comfort in His free flowing love and grace (which is actually the same thing) His love is so much and so free IN Jesus Christ and there is no reason but lack of the truth and unbelief to stop any one of us from walking out the fullness of His love for us even this very day.

 

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No I'm seriously not
:) but can see why you and some have said that., but i don't care. Over the years I've gotten a hold of different preachers and teachers and go with them one at a time for a loooong run. Much like many of us appreciate our pastors at the church we go to. Also these particular devotional is the one I've been using for a few yrs now. Some days missed and some of the writings I've gotten more out of the 2nd and 3rd time around.

But more to the reason now is that I so appreciate and need the kind of preaching and teaching of this message of grace.

I need to be constantly reminded of my position in Jesus and that it is Him not me that determines God's acceptance of me. It just so happens that this grace preacher (who is among many) is the one I'm most familiar with. There are many good preachers
and teachers who preach grace and imputed righteousness. But I happen to have invested more time in Pastor Prince and we are creatures of habit. (I really am) :)

 

joaniemarie

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While I appreciate your zeal....are you the press agent of Joseph Prince?






[FONT=&quot]No I'm seriously not [/FONT]:)[FONT=&quot] but can see why you and some have said that., but i don't care. Over the years I've gotten a hold of different preachers and teachers and go with them one at a time for a loooong run. Much like many of us appreciate our pastors at the church we go to. Also these particular devotional is the one I've been using for a few yrs now. Some days missed and some of the writings I've gotten more out of the 2nd and 3rd time around.

But more to the reason now is that I so appreciate and need the kind of preaching and teaching of this message of grace.

I need to be constantly reminded of my position in Jesus and that it is Him not me that determines God's acceptance of me. It just so happens that this grace preacher (who is among many) is the one I'm most familiar with. There are many good preachers
and teachers who preach grace and imputed righteousness. But I happen to have invested more time in Pastor Prince and we are creatures of habit. (I really am) :)
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messed up my formatting trying to do the personal info on my settings. sorry for the duplicate posts.
 
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I did ask this of the mods, but got no answer, so maybe if I asked publically we can get an answer.

If there is to be no hyper-grace debates/arguments on this site, then exactly how is it fair that hyper-grace can be taught by way of copy/pasting hyper-grace teacher?

As it stands now, despite what the pinned thread says above, CC is against the teachings and yet it's fine to post the teachings, as long as no one argues against them.

I do not understand that logic.
 
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LOL And I just noticed the title of the thread. "UNDESERVED PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT" LOL

Yup, it surely is!
 
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The way I view devotionals - no matter who they are from is:

1) do they speak of Jesus and His wondrous work?

2) Do they tell of His love and grace for us and make Jesus bigger in my heart and bring glory to Him?

3) Does it bring life to me and make me fall in love with the Lord and to know Him more? Do they encourage me to trust in Jesus for everything?

If the devotional answer these questions - I will read them every day. I get about 7 different devotionals that speak of the beauty, love and grace of the Lord and this is one of them. Not all devotionals speak to me all of the time but I usually find one nugget that the Holy Spirit uses to encourage me in the Lord.

I never have agreed with everything every devotional has said. I hope that in 3 years I will not agree with everything I believe now about the Lord as I learn new facets of Him in the future.
 

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If we didn't have God's unmerited favor none of us would still be here as we would have already been.....

Zapped out of existence.....
 

Dan_473

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I did ask this of the mods, but got no answer, so maybe if I asked publically we can get an answer.

If there is to be no hyper-grace debates/arguments on this site, then exactly how is it fair that hyper-grace can be taught by way of copy/pasting hyper-grace teacher?

As it stands now, despite what the pinned thread says above, CC is against the teachings and yet it's fine to post the teachings, as long as no one argues against them.

I do not understand that logic.
I have a similar question

is it good to copy someone else's entire work, and so break copyright law (probably)?
 
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I have a similar question

is it good to copy someone else's entire work, and so break copyright law (probably)?
This has been answered before - as long as you give the source - then it's ok. Or else no one would be able to say what someone else had said about any subject. We would have to throw good old Spurgeon quotes out too as well as any other writer.
 

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messed up my formatting trying to do the personal info on my settings. sorry for the duplicate posts.
One suggestion on all the settings and things . Could you please use a larger font. At least for this guy here I have a hard time reading this .
Blessings
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Dan_473

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This has been answered before - as long as you give the source - then it's ok. Or else no one would be able to say what someone else had said about any subject. We would have to throw good old Spurgeon quotes out too as well as any other writer.
glad it's been answered

if the mods are OK with it, that's cool




from a legal standpoint, though,
small quotes, excerpts are fine

an entire work usually not...


my thinking is that Christians have a high respect for the law
 
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We should all thank God that because of Jesus He doesn't treat us as we deserve.
 

joaniemarie

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This has been answered before - as long as you give the source - then it's ok. Or else no one would be able to say what someone else had said about any subject. We would have to throw good old Spurgeon quotes out too as well as any other writer.



I guess by the going growing interpretation here on CC I've always considered Spurgeon to be a grace teacher too and he was another teacher/preacher I've followed over the years by reading his devotionals as a helpful resource with the daily Bible reading. I even have his morning and evening devotional with many added notes of my own over the years along with other older Bibles on the shelf i often use for helpful resourcing.

I especially enjoyed Spurgeon's commentary book on the Psalms but in the 4 moves in my adult life, that book got lost. Depleted, you just shared Spurgeon's devotional today on another thread and i commented and agreed with it too.

Some weeks ago I asked Robo-op about sharing J.Prince's devotional and as long as we show who wrote a devotional when we share their work that is fine. No worries.

Some believe like me that Spurgeon is a grace teacher too., so does that mean his words and work can't be shared? Of course not. His work is just reeeeeallly old and he's up in heaven now. Being deceased is not a prerequisite to us sharing someone's devotionals on CC.

I'm cutting and pasting from another thread because i don't know how to "link"












Re: Coming To God As A Child



Originally Posted by Depleted

I was reading Spurgeon's Devotional again today, and figured out how a child acts. They really aren't so naive to think they have nothing to work with when sitting on Daddy's lap. They remember what Daddy told them, too. And, Daddy being God has told them what they do have and is pleased to give it to them.

Do as thou hast said.”
- 2Sa_7:25


God’s promises were never meant to be thrown aside as waste paper; he intended that they should be used. God’s gold is not miser’s money, but is minted to be traded with. Nothing pleases our Lord better than to see his promises put in circulation; he loves to see his children bring them up to him, and say, “Lord, do as thou hast said.” We glorify God when we plead his promises. Do you think that God will be any the poorer for giving you the riches he has promised? Do you dream that he will be any the less holy for giving holiness to you? Do you imagine he will be any the less pure for washing you from your sins? He has said “Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.” Faith lays hold upon the promise of pardon, and it does not delay, saying, “This is a precious promise, I wonder if it be true?” but it goes straight to the throne with it, and pleads, “Lord, here is the promise, ‘Do as thou hast said.’” Our Lord replies, “Be it unto thee even as thou wilt.” When a Christian grasps a promise, if he does not take it to God, he dishonours him; but when he hastens to the throne of grace, and cries, “Lord, I have nothing to recommend me but this, ‘Thou hast said it;’“ then his desire shall be granted. Our heavenly Banker delights to cash his own notes. Never let the promise rust. Draw the word of promise out of its scabbard, and use it with holy violence. Think not that God will be troubled by your importunately reminding him of his promises. He loves to hear the loud outcries of needy souls. It is his delight to bestow favours. He is more ready to hear than you are to ask. The sun is not weary of shining, nor the fountain of flowing. It is God’s nature to keep his promises; therefore go at once to the throne with “Do as thou hast said.”










Exactly! and it's in our best interest to learn what His promises are. Not only are we shockingly surprised just how much He has for us but that He has all along desired to give to us. But based on our own limited vision, we didnt even consider He is and gives so beyond what we could think or dream or ask.. His Word is higher than our human ability to go. so we desperately need the mind of Christ every day. (be transformed by the renewing of your minds...)


many Christians live far below what Jesus paid for us to have.


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The issue I have with this has to do with the expectations it sets up.

The article states "The more you behold Jesus and His love for you, the more you will see His favor work for you", then proceeds to give examples of worldly "successes". Its giving the following equation: Loving Jesus = Favour and success in this world. This is simply not true.

The Bible outlines that we will encounter much suffering, opposition, and be hated in this world when we submit to Him and give ourselves to Him. Yes, when worldly circumstances do go our way, we praise Jesus. But if things do not go our way, we continue to praise Jesus.

Our worldy circumstances are not evidence of His love for us. We can produce a ton of good fruit. If the world decides to pick the fruit and enjoy it, great. But I find that it can easily go the other way... The world can pick our fruit and throw it at us (which actually strengthens our faith in Him). What doesn't change is the unshakable love He has for us.

One could have their lives shattered and seem cursed with nothing going their way. Does this mean they didn't "behold Jesus and His love" for them? Nope. Sounds like Job's friends, if you ask me.

Personally I do not need worldly circumstances to edify my love for Him. Loving Him is my reward. He is the treasure. Simple.
 
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The issue I have with this has to do with the expectations it sets up.

The article states "The more you behold Jesus and His love for you, the more you will see His favor work for you", then proceeds to give examples of worldly "successes". Its giving the following equation: Loving Jesus = Favour and success in this world. This is simply not true.

The Bible outlines that we will encounter much suffering, opposition, and be hated in this world when we submit to Him and give ourselves to Him. Yes, when worldly circumstances do go our way, we praise Jesus. But if things do not go our way, we continue to praise Jesus.

Our worldy circumstances are not evidence of His love for us. We can produce a ton of good fruit. If the world decides to pick the fruit and enjoy it, great. But I find that it can easily go the other way... The world can pick our fruit and throw it at us (which actually strengthens our faith in Him). What doesn't change is the unshakable love He has for us.

One could have their lives shattered and seem cursed with nothing going their way. Does this mean they didn't "behold Jesus and His love" for them? Nope. Sounds like Job's friends, if you ask me.

Personally I do not need worldly circumstances to edify my love for Him. Loving Him is my reward. He is the treasure. Simple.
I agree that carnal Christians can take this the wrong way and have their whole focus on themselves which is not the kingdom. However there is also the other side in which religion that has taught that God wants us poor and destitute as if that is some kind of a spiritual blessing.

I firmly believe that God wants to bless us "so that" we can be a blessing to others but never at the expense of not having our true treasure maintained in our lives - which is Christ Himself as our focal point. Our Father is not against His children having "things" - He is against "things" having His children.

"Things" can become deceitful and cause us to lose our main focus - which is Christ Himself.

The Good Samaritan had much and he was able to be a "brother" to the guy who needed him. Having things to give to others or not having things to give to another should have no bearing on our devotion and utter dependence on Christ Himself. As Paul said - I have learned the secret of contentment - in having abundance and in suffering need.

There is always a balance so we can't throw one out for the other. It is actually "both". I fully understand that people can get the wrong focus on things in this world but the Lord uses the things of this world to bless others too.

Philippians 4:11-12 (NASB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Not that I speak from want, for I have learned to be content in whatever circumstances I am.

[SUP]12 [/SUP] I know how to get along with humble means, and I also know how to live in prosperity; in any and every circumstance I have learned the secret of being filled and going hungry, both of having abundance and suffering need.

Anyway - that's my views on it...:)

 
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The issue I have with this has to do with the expectations it sets up.

The article states "The more you behold Jesus and His love for you, the more you will see His favor work for you", then proceeds to give examples of worldly "successes". Its giving the following equation: Loving Jesus = Favour and success in this world. This is simply not true.

The Bible outlines that we will encounter much suffering, opposition, and be hated in this world when we submit to Him and give ourselves to Him. Yes, when worldly circumstances do go our way, we praise Jesus. But if things do not go our way, we continue to praise Jesus.

Our worldy circumstances are not evidence of His love for us. We can produce a ton of good fruit. If the world decides to pick the fruit and enjoy it, great. But I find that it can easily go the other way... The world can pick our fruit and throw it at us (which actually strengthens our faith in Him). What doesn't change is the unshakable love He has for us.

One could have their lives shattered and seem cursed with nothing going their way. Does this mean they didn't "behold Jesus and His love" for them? Nope. Sounds like Job's friends, if you ask me.

Personally I do not need worldly circumstances to edify my love for Him. Loving Him is my reward. He is the treasure. Simple.

Hi Godislove7., God has taught me that He will most certainly make my paths straight when i see Him and learn about Him and follow and believe Him. Especially when i believe He LOVES me inspite of what i may feel or see at times in life. So it's been true I suceed in whatever I do when I have faith in Him and not me or anything else. When we trust Him He will never let us down. That is a PROMISE worth knowing and leaning hard on in my life.

I need to know each day He is for me and loves me and will always take care of me. Psalm 23 is just one of the many books in the Bible that assures me of this but it's the chapter I'm leaning on this year and have memorized.


[h=1]Psalm 23Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC)[/h] [h=3]Psalm 23[/h][h=4]A Psalm of David.[/h][SUP]1 [/SUP]The Lord is my Shepherd [to feed, guide, and shield me], I shall not lack.
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2 [/SUP]He makes me lie down in [fresh, tender] green pastures; He leads me beside the still and restful waters.
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3 [/SUP]He refreshes and restores my life (my self); He leads me in the paths of righteousness [uprightness and right standing with Him—not for my earning it, but] for His name’s sake.
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4 [/SUP]Yes, though I walk through the [deep, sunless] valley of the shadow of death, I will fear or dread no evil, for You are with me; Your rod [to protect] and Your staff [to guide], they comfort me.
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5 [/SUP]You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies. You anoint my head with [SUP][a][/SUP]oil; my [brimming] cup runs over.
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6 [/SUP]Surely or only goodness, mercy, and unfailing love shall follow me all the days of my life, and through the length of my days the house of the Lord [and His presence] shall be my dwelling place.