Name a place that God did NOT create. This is amazing...

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Jonteel

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Question 1. (First of 16) Scripture tells us of a place that exists, but was not created by the creator. Keep this in mind, God created all things that were created! So, how can this be?
Also, John 1:3, 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
These questions are directed at the Christian scholarly community. So, if you're a scholar, or you know one, then have at it. Answers will, eventually, be provided. All questions, save one, will be answered on the same date. Until then, that date will remain secret. The clock is ticking, so hurry. Hopefully, before then, they'll be answered. Can you beat the clock? "Have a good 'un."
All will be answered save one. That one will stand as a challenge until it is answered.
This question, number one, is particularly relevant to Mr. Billy Graham.
As these questions will be presented to almost a half million people, I ask you to forgive me if I don't respond to every post from every person. If, and when a correct response is posted, I will, naturally, respond to that. Have fun.

I have a few things I'd like to seek your opinion on.
 
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Question 1. (First of 16) Scripture tells us of a place that exists, but was not created by the creator. Keep this in mind, God created all things that were created! So, how can this be?
Also, John 1:3, 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
These questions are directed at the Christian scholarly community. So, if you're a scholar, or you know one, then have at it. Answers will, eventually, be provided. All questions, save one, will be answered on the same date. Until then, that date will remain secret. The clock is ticking, so hurry. Hopefully, before then, they'll be answered. Can you beat the clock? "Have a good 'un."
All will be answered save one. That one will stand as a challenge until it is answered.
This question, number one, is particularly relevant to Mr. Billy Graham.
As these questions will be presented to almost a half million people, I ask you to forgive me if I don't respond to every post from every person. If, and when a correct response is posted, I will, naturally, respond to that. Have fun.

I have a few things I'd like to seek your opinion on.
God has no beginning or end, this He was not created.
 
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Persuaded

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California?
 

p_rehbein

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Answers will eventually be provided............is what you posted..........does that mean that whatever answer people here come up with is categorically wrong? Even before they comment?

By the way..............this is not a Seminary School or some such.........mayhaps you should just pick a Scripture/subject, give your opinion, and then ask others theirs?

Personally........I'm way too old to be taking Tests........especially as the qualifications of the Testor are a mystery.
 
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Jonteel

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Utah, I wasn't saying that God was created. Sorry to mislead.
Now, California and Disney --THAT is brilliant. Didn't see that coming. Cool!
Hmmm. I will refrain from Disney jokes. This is actually a serious thread and we don't want to get goofy or anything. Sorry. Couldn't help m'self...
The answer will be supported by scripture, so this place was around in Bible times.
 
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Jonteel

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Well, actually, I hate tests too. I was a professional student, and now my wife watches game shows, and I simply dont. I believe she likes jeopardy or something.
But, you hit the nail on the head--credibility. Sometimes you need to ask questions to acquire a modicum of credibility. This is not a frivolous question, and I hope you stay for the answer. I'd love to know your opinion.
 

p_rehbein

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The thing is..................it is common courtesy if one poses a question to also provide their thoughts as to the answer. The way you are doing it is called "fishing" in Internet terms. It isn't always a good thing.

Don't know how familiar you are with the way Internet Sites like this work........but, for me personally, I will withhold any thoughts of my own, until I see what your thoughts are, so as to be better aware of what your goal/agenda is here. That's just me..........others may jump right in..........so, hang in there I suppose.
 
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Jonteel

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Well, thanks. Fishing, hmmmm. Didn't realize that. Let me try to be more careful from here on out. My purpose is to give you the benefit of a bit of research. Scholars have missed this for a few thousand years. I believe you will all be delighted by the answer. My goal is to nudge the church toward hearing God. The church would benefit if more of us listened to the Spirit...Booker T washington gave credit to God for all his discoveries, Booker discovered plastic, and that alone makes him a legend in the world of science..
I'd like to see if the scholars in college will accept this as a research topic. As a grad student, there are places to offer your findings. Unfortunately, we Christians dont have a publication devoted to presenting such findings. This is the best way to edify the whole church. It's not meant to be an attack or a negative thing.
 
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PR,

sometimes realistic thoughts just don't come when we what them to, but at different
stages of our walk -
they often just 'pop-in' at His bidding in order to give us a ground/stake...
don't you remember how this felt, however far back?!?:rolleyes:
 

tanakh

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Lewisham, a London Suburb where I live, come to think of it make that the whole of London, or should I say the HOLE of London
 

Chester

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I think you are trying to skirt the answer: Utah gave it you on the very first post!

All matter that exists was created. The heart of God is a place that exists but was not created.
 

Sac49

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My question would be to the OP. Are you looking at Isaiah 48:15 as one of you "Biblical proofs"? If so the it would be God did not create a place of empty chaos. But that would also depend on which translation you are looking at. Others would be a place "without order", "waste place" or just "empty".
 
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Jonteel

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Oi, Chester, I missed that! Utah meant that God was the answer. But, this is about a place, not a person or personage.

London? Yeah, I imagine it to be like Chicago or New York, a mess.
 

stonesoffire

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This is a toughie. Nothing comes to mind. Be careful now with your comments...:p
 
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Jonteel

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Hmmm, Sac49, brilliant assertion. I like it. But, no this doesn't use that verse. Actually, as you will see, this one is a BURIED treasure. The verse itself doesn't mention a particular place. This one has been hidden exactly because of this. For centuries, men have combed scripture and have not seen it.
 

Chester

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Oi, Chester, I missed that! Utah meant that God was the answer. But, this is about a place, not a person or personage.

London? Yeah, I imagine it to be like Chicago or New York, a mess.
OK - I thought that was too easy - but wherever God is is a "place", is it not?

Here is a dictionary definition of place = a portion of space available or designated for or being used by someone.

God is a "someone"! :)
 

maxwel

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Hmmm, Sac49, brilliant assertion. I like it. But, no this doesn't use that verse. Actually, as you will see, this one is a BURIED treasure. The verse itself doesn't mention a particular place. This one has been hidden exactly because of this. For centuries, men have combed scripture and have not seen it.
If untold numbers of scholars, for centuries, have "combed scripture and have not seen it"...
then it's unrealistic to expect a few people on CC to see it either.


Since it's quite UNREALISTIC to expect any of us to see it,
then the only REALISTIC thing to do is go ahead and post what you found.
 

maxwel

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OK - I thought that was too easy - but wherever God is is a "place", is it not?

Here is a dictionary definition of place = a portion of space available or designated for or being used by someone.

God is a "someone"! :)

Well, there is some debate about whether God actually exists IN time and space, in an eternal way,
or if he exists OUTSIDE time and space altogether and just interacts with us through his transcendent ability.

But either way, if God is a spirit, that would seem to make him a non-locality,
and since he created space, then he has to exist in a form that does not require space
(because he existed before the space was created)
so again, we have some kind of non-locality.
 

Sac49

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My question then would be this. Scholars, you say, have missed it for centuries. Then how is it then that you just happen to find this "place" that God did not create? Are you basically saying God has given you some kind of "special" revelation? What is it that made you the "revealer" of this information? I am with "maxwel" on this...go ahead and post your finding.