Jonteels 16 questions

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Stunnedbygrace

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He has only asked 4 so far that I can find. I love mysteries and puzzles. :)
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1. Name a place God did not create?
2. Where are we commanded to hear God?
3. How do we avoid the fate of Mthw 7:21-23?

13. Can you define sin?
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I gave my best answers in the threads but want to put all the questions together in one place.

1. He appears to not have created darkness in a positive manner of "let there be." It seems to have just been here at the beginning of our story. Yet He says somewhere, I create the darkness. He creates darkness in a negative fashion, not a positive one - to create darkness for anyone, He must cast them from the light.

2. Hear, oh Israel, your God is one God.

3. By getting to know Him. It's not about His gifts but Him. (I noted Saul in the thread where he asks this question.)

13. Whatever is not trust in God is sin.

These are my best answers...
 
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HisHolly

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Some people get kicks out of being absolutely technical.. so I've stopped paying attention to him... I've seen good answers that are dismissed.. if he's not the type that gloats BC nobody is on his level of genius, I'd be surprised
 
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hornetguy

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I'll take question #12 for $1000, Alec....

Biblical Jeopardy...

Someone else trying to straighten all us "unenlightened" folks out....

yawn...
 
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Stunnedbygrace

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Oh...I didn't see that...I saw the questions as thought provoking...they didn't make me suspicious of him...we will see what further he has to say and how he ties the questions together...
 
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HisHolly

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He could be genuine but more often then not, they aren't.. especially when little engagement goes on.
Stunnedbygrace said:
Oh...I didn't see that...I saw the questions as thought provoking...they didn't make me suspicious of him...we will see what further he has to say and how he ties the questions together...
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Chester

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Hang on tight for a few days: and we may get a ride! I am always open to some excitement - but don't think I will invest a lot of time or energy into this one. But since it costs nothing - it may be better than a roller coaster!
 
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Stunnedbygrace

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HisHolly said:
He could be genuine but more often then not, they aren't.. especially when little engagement goes on.
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Okay, but we should give him a chance to lay out what he is getting at before making a judgement on whether he is genuine or not, shouldn't we?

I guess by now he sees that it didn't work as he had hoped and that he maybe should have asked the questions in one thread. But he tested out the way he thought would work. But I started a thread to round all the questions up in. :)

I will wait to see what the other questions are and what he is working towards. But I gather that most don't like the suspense. :D
 
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Stunnedbygrace said:
Okay, but we should give him a chance to lay out what he is getting at before making a judgement on whether he is genuine or not, shouldn't we?

I guess by now he sees that it didn't work as he had hoped and that he maybe should have asked the questions in one thread. But he tested out the way he thought would work. But I started a thread to round all the questions up in. :)

I will wait to see what the other questions are and what he is working towards. But I gather that most don't like the suspense. :D
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I don't know if I mind the suspense so badly, except that my muscles are starting to cramp! LOL!
 
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Jonteel

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Well, I expected an attack, and was hesitant to look, but this wasn't what I feared. Two of your senior people advised me not to "flood" with posts. So, I stopped at 3, and then saw the need for a forth, as it relates to one of the first three. Here is what I was advised:
p_rehbein said:
Just FYI..........but methinks folks are gonna tire of your posting so many Threads so quickly without offering any personal opinions of your own.

Not saying you are, but this is a favorite pass time of the numerous trolls that come here to CC. Trying to dominate the First Page of a Forum by posting/authoring so many threads at one time.

Mayhaps you should try one or two, see the response you get............engage in a discussion/if occurs, and then later on, move to your next question/or whatever it is your purpose here is.

There is something a wee bit "fishy" with the way you have come to CC to apparently instruct/inform those who are here. This isn't a Game Show/or any such.........and not sure why you are directing your stuff at the "Christian Scholarly" community?

Anyway, you may not get a lot of responses, or responses of a serious/scholarly nature given the approach you have chosen to take........just saying
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pottersclay

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I can't believe jonteel is rewarding a perfect score with a free trip to Israel all inclusive.
 
stonesoffire

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I think it would be very interesting to have 16 questions posted. I like puzzles too. ;)
 
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Stunnedbygrace

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He has listed the 16th question...I don't think we will get the others...:mad: I wanted the others...:(

16. If sin is missing Gods best, do you see the problem?
 
Chester

Chester

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Stunnedbygrace said:
He has listed the 16th question...I don't think we will get the others...:mad: I wanted the others...:(

16. If sin is missing Gods best, do you see the problem?
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He was on at least two other forums - check those out - maybe he is still going there! :)
 
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Adstar

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Stunnedbygrace said:
He has only asked 4 so far that I can find. I love mysteries and puzzles. :)
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1. Name a place God did not create?
2. Where are we commanded to hear God?
3. How do we avoid the fate of Mthw 7:21-23?

13. Can you define sin?
========================

I gave my best answers in the threads but want to put all the questions together in one place.

1. He appears to not have created darkness in a positive manner of "let there be." It seems to have just been here at the beginning of our story. Yet He says somewhere, I create the darkness. He creates darkness in a negative fashion, not a positive one - to create darkness for anyone, He must cast them from the light.

2. Hear, oh Israel, your God is one God.

3. By getting to know Him. It's not about His gifts but Him. (I noted Saul in the thread where he asks this question.)

13. Whatever is not trust in God is sin.

These are my best answers...
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I don't minbd people asking questions.. Some of the questions might lead me or others to suspect alterior motives by the poster. But in the end it does not matter what the motives of the poster is.. In the end we get the chance to answer questions and when we are asked dificult questions we are motivated to seek the truth in scripture and in prayer..

All things work for the good of those who love the LORD.. Even being attacked.. that is even if we are being attacked??
 
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Jonteel

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Yes, I am jumping across three forums. In 1994, the survey we did showed Christians actually didnt know the Bible's defintion of sin. Let's blame that on Strong's and forget it.

God's been after me to get to work. However, I eschew this stuff. Forums are a place where you are attacked. I wasn't here long before I was ready to leave.

I was told to post 16 questions. Well. if I can, I will. I dont want to, but I will. After more than 20 years the church doesn't know God's meaning for sin! In my home town there are 8 churches that are gone. God wants to get our people on track.

Sin is too important a word to not know. Even today ministers miss this.
 
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Jonteel

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Stunned,
Did you miss an answer?
I did not post all 16. The experience I had in the 90's told me that it would be better to post 4. Originally, I wanted to do 16 in one day. As I have been typig for 5 hours today alone. I see that as too much. I broke the order because there are connections between certain questions. 13 and 16 are linked.
 
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Jonteel

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Stunned, here is one answer--the place not created--
Oh, beware, I have been called a names for what you are about to read...

Let's start with this "God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all." (1 John 1:5)In Bible times, light was pretty harmless. Moses would not believe that light could cut metal. Today, we understand that light is a serious matter.

1 tim 6:16, Here we have the key. “Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach .... Amen.”

In medieval times they couldn't understand this simple verse. Now we do.

Since science has moved on we know more about light. For instance, lasers are used in most classes in school. Many students have seen how a laser can be passed through a crystal. The crystal isn't destroyed unless it is flawed with a dark spot...

Laser Types and Classification | Environmental Health and Safety | Oregon State University

God uses the natural world, to illuminate the supernatural world. Let's shed a little light. God seems to be a light on the order of a really powerful laser.. I'll allow you to examine the topic on your own time.

Now, where do we see a man that is able to be in God's presence and not be hurt? Adam is the answer. The sin thing comes around that time.

What do we know from Adam? Before he had sin, he was able to be with God. After sin, it's over. God doesn't enter the AO of Adam. So, logically we can make a leap...in is what man does not want to have. Not when God is around. Especially if you have no body to stop God's light.

Where can we go that God s not there? Well, scripture says that God is iin Hell. Psalm 139:8. Once we are dead, there's no where to hide.


Millions, maybe billions, of people are atheists. Talk to them. They will tell you that God is evil because God created Hell. Now here is where the shadow of Picasso becomes relevant. bear with me.

Charles Templeton was Billy Graham's evangelistic partner. Many believed he was a BETTER minister than Billy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Templeton
You can verify the facts if you care.

Templeton turned his back on Christianity. He became a leader in the athiest/ non-believer community. He represents them pretty well.

He said that he couldn't believe in a god that would create Hell.

Well, if Picasso "created" his shadow, then God can be held culpable for said shadow. Can God be held responsible for Hell, and there in lies the argument.

Genesis 1:1 says, "God saw all that he had made, and it was very good." Does the Bible lie?

If you believe in a good God, and all He made is good, then go out and tell an atheist. Admittedly, many people dont have the IQ to understand higher concepts, but most atheists are pretty smart.
 
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