Are Apostles still in existence today?

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I also had never noticed that Barnabas was called an apostle, as well... interesting...
There are at least 11 other apostles mentioned as apostles in the NT which were not of the original ones that walked with Jesus. I agree with you that there are only the "original apostles" that were with Jesus - but they were just the start of many more to come - all of which Jesus Himself calls to fulfill the work that he has for them. He is the head - we are the body.
 

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I would naturally reason that if there aren't apostles and prophets, then there would not be teachers, pastors, nor evangelists. There's no scripture stating the 5 fold ministry is over.

And when did God pull out from His salvation plan for the world? When did the members of His body on earth all become the same if there aren't offices?

I just thought of Blain who said if we can't believe all of scripture, we can't believe any of it.

And where is Blain?
Yet there are people acting as teachers, teaching people that there are no longer teachers. *facepalm *
 
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I gather Apollos was too since he is named as one some wanted to follow in 1 Corinthians
I also had never noticed that Barnabas was called an apostle, as well... interesting...
 
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I understand scripture to indicate "the apostles" as described in the NT were men that had personally been with Jesus, and had witnessed all the things he had done... as evidenced by the appointing of an apostle to replace Judas..



In the way the descriptive name "apostle" was used, then we would have to say that no, there are no more apostles, since the last one of the 12 (14 counting Matthias and Paul) died.
I think you have missed Barnabas
Acts 14:14
14 | But when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of it, they rent their garments, and sprang forth among the multitude, crying out

so there are 15 not 14 apostles if I refer to what you've said,

but I disagree with it.As you say, apostle had witnessed all the things Jesus had done,
why apostles had witnessed???because:
--->Acts 1:8
8 | But ye shall receive power, when the Holy Spirit is come upon you: and ye shall be my witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea and Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

this Holy Spirit give to the apostle to be his witnesses
John 16:13
13 | Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he shall hear, 'these' shall he speak: and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come.

and so everyone who get this Spirit of truth can have witnessed to Jesus, in addition:
--->John 3:34
34 | For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for he giveth not the Spirit by measure.
 
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'sent ones' - aren't all of us who are called and chosen?!?!
we are all sent 'to do something', who are in the Body of Christ...
 

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There are at least 11 other apostles mentioned as apostles in the NT which were not of the original ones that walked with Jesus. I agree with you that there are only the "original apostles" that were with Jesus - but they were just the start of many more to come - all of which Jesus Himself calls to fulfill the work that he has for them. He is the head - we are the body.
I had not noticed that, either.... do you have references for the other 11... I found Barnabas already.

To answer others, yes, I understand the "definition" of the word as being what it is, but I was under the impression, mistakenly, apparently, that only the 12 plus Matthias and Paul were "named" as apostles....

I'm interested to hear the other 10 or 11.... good stuff.
 
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I had not noticed that, either.... do you have references for the other 11... I found Barnabas already.

To answer others, yes, I understand the "definition" of the word as being what it is, but I was under the impression, mistakenly, apparently, that only the 12 plus Matthias and Paul were "named" as apostles....

I'm interested to hear the other 10 or 11.... good stuff.
Here you go...this is a good source for showing them all.

How Many Apostles in the NT -- 12 or 25?
 

Billyd

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IMHO, It depends on how we define "some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers". When someone tells me that he is a prophet or an apostle, it raises the hairs on the back of my neck.
 
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IMHO, It depends on how we define "some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers". When someone tells me that he is a prophet or an apostle, it raises the hairs on the back of my neck.

I know exactly what you mean...I get the same thing when I hear some people say that they are a pastor or teacher.
 

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It's my understanding that Apostles are those sent to start ministries. And they move in the miraculous. I just can't remember where I read the info.

The other offices seem to be understood easily.

Sent by the Lord that is and may or may not have authority of a ministry over them.
 
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1 Corinthians 4:9-13

9 For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.
10 We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised.
11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwelling place;
12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.


Jude 17

17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;


Acts 2:43

43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.


Acts 5:12

12 And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch.

Acts 1:21-22

21 Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
22Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us,"must one be ordained" to be a witness with us of His resurrection.

1 Corinthians 15:8

8 And last of all He (Christ) was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

The true apostles of Jesus Christ were chosen of God .. and not by men. They laid the foundation for Christ's church at the cost of their own lives. Paul was the last, as one born out of due time of that specific generational period ... the apostolic age. There were some appointed by the apostles to assist in their work .. but this too took place during that same generational apostolic period. Of the many great men of God to follow throughout church history following the completion of canon, none laid claim to being an apostle.
 
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I think it's not possible that apostle John is still alive
Psalms 90:10
10 | The days of our years are threescore years and ten, Or even by reason of strength fourscore years; Yet is their pride but labor and sorrow; For it is soon gone, and we fly away.


Revelation 6:11
11 | And there was given them to each one a white robe; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little time, until their fellow-servants also and their brethren, who should be killed even as they were, should have fulfilled 'their course'.
All the apostles are alive. For God is God of the living not the dead.

Mark 12:27 ►
New International Version
He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!"
 
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Are apostles still in existence today? Yes they are in Heaven with Jesus.

Is God apointing new apostles today? Personally I haven't meet anyone or read or heard of anyone who pass the Biblical test to qualify for the title. However, I am willing to pray about it and listen to the person making such claims.
Most of the time they are fake and just want money, power and fame.

Apostles establish and shepherd churches. Help train and disciple the teachers, evangelist and pastors. They have first hand experience walking with Christ. God gives them the power to work miracles and do signs FOR UNBELIEVERS. So that they realize Jesus is not a fake. Most of the people I meet claim that their ability to work miracles is based on YOUR faith in God and not their relationship or their faith.

However Jesus told His disciples they could not heal the young boy because of THEIR lack of faith, NOT the young boy or his father's lack of faith.
 
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If Acts is read right there are more people that do signs and wonders and miracles than just the traditional Apostles most think about.. The father did say help my unbelief..
Are apostles still in existence today? Yes they are in Heaven with Jesus.

Is God apointing new apostles today? Personally I haven't meet anyone or read or heard of anyone who pass the Biblical test to qualify for the title. However, I am willing to pray about it and listen to the person making such claims.
Most of the time they are fake and just want money, power and fame.

Apostles establish and shepherd churches. Help train and disciple the teachers, evangelist and pastors. They have first hand experience walking with Christ. God gives them the power to work miracles and do signs FOR UNBELIEVERS. So that they realize Jesus is not a fake. Most of the people I meet claim that their ability to work miracles is based on YOUR faith in God and not their relationship or their faith.

However Jesus told His disciples they could not heal the young boy because of THEIR lack of faith, NOT the young boy or his father's lack of faith.
 
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Doesn't Apostle mean, the one who is sent out to preach the gospel basically and A prophet one who predicts the future.
 
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A Prophet can be anyone who speaks about a situation for some purpose..
 

Demi777

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well thats a clairvoyance
prophets proclaim the Word of God
[FONT=&quot]: one who utters divinely inspired revelations: such as[/FONT][FONT=&quot]a often capitalized : the writer of one of the prophetic books of the Bible[/FONT][FONT=&quot]b capitalized : one regarded by a group of followers as the final authoritative revealer of God's will[/FONT]
origin
Middle English: from Old French prophete, via Latin from Greek prophētēs ‘spokesman,’ from pro ‘before’ + phētēs ‘speaker’ (from phēnai ‘speak’).

theres a fine line between prophetic revelation and clairvoyance.. God will not tell someone the future of another person, what will happen and when..


Doesn't Apostle mean, the one who is sent out to preach the gospel basically and A prophet one who predicts the future.
 
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well thats a clairvoyance
prophets proclaim the Word of God
[FONT="][B]:[/B] one who utters divinely inspired revelations: such as[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#3B3E41][FONT="]a often capitalized : the writer of one of the prophetic books of the Bible[/FONT][FONT="]b capitalized : one regarded by a group of followers as the final authoritative revealer of God's will[/FONT]
origin
Middle English: from Old French prophete, via Latin from Greek prophētēs ‘spokesman,’ from pro ‘before’ + phētēs ‘speaker’ (from phēnai ‘speak’).

theres a fine line between prophetic revelation and clairvoyance.. God will not tell someone the future of another person, what will happen and when..

Makes good sense, though the latter I'm not convinced that God doesn't tell someone the future of another, Isaiah spoke a lot of Jesus before He came.
 

Demi777

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because Jesus is the savior of the world to come. God may say some things through a person in encouragement like what gifts and callings a person may have, but he wont tell you what car you will have and what woman you marry and kids your having with names etc.

Makes good sense, though the latter I'm not convinced that God doesn't tell someone the future of another, Isaiah spoke a lot of Jesus before He came.
 
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Sorry my dear but I have to disagree.. I know of people to who He spoke direct things to them such as these.. He has the same info recorded in the Bible of Him doing such things.. Except the car lol
because Jesus is the savior of the world to come. God may say some things through a person in encouragement like what gifts and callings a person may have, but he wont tell you what car you will have and what woman you marry and kids your having with names etc.