Are Apostles still in existence today?

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Demi777

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hmm so a prophet came up to u and was like ''you will have a kid named so and so"? i would have tested that guy (if i got that one right)
prophets have spoken into my life as well so its not that i dont believe in it, but with great caution.
Sorry my dear but I have to disagree.. I know of people to who He spoke direct things to them such as these.. He has the same info recorded in the Bible of Him doing such things.. Except the car lol
 
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BeyondET

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#42
because Jesus is the savior of the world to come. God may say some things through a person in encouragement like what gifts and callings a person may have, but he wont tell you what car you will have and what woman you marry and kids your having with names etc.
Well that has to do with how much is your faith in that.. if your faith is little in that he doesn't do things like that then it probably won't happen in your life.. If you let God lead your life go out before you in every way indeed He will lead your path to that spouse etc..
 

SCHISM

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#43
The LDS has 12 Apostles.
 
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HisHolly

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I didn't say a Prophet said anything to me nor to another.. I meant God telling someone who to marry and what to name their child.. yes,
hmm so a prophet came up to u and was like ''you will have a kid named so and so"? i would have tested that guy (if i got that one right)
prophets have spoken into my life as well so its not that i dont believe in it, but with great caution.
 

Demi777

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my mom had close to no faith and God healed her paralysed leg and set her spine again.. its not always faith. God may tell us some stuff but not everything.
I know a woman who was all strong in the Lord happy and everything and then a she was told to marry her now husband as it would be ''Gods will"
now shes just evil and bidder..not even to speak of the husband how he is. pure evil and all in the name of God.

I havent seen even once that if someone had a vision or ''prophetic'' word about a husbands looks or so, that it was from God. not even once. it ended up in destruction



Well that has to do with how much is your faith in that.. if your faith is little in that he doesn't do things like that then it probably won't happen in your life.. If you let God lead your life go out before you in every way indeed He will lead your path to that spouse etc..
 
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HisHolly

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#47
and God did tell me about the last guy I was involved with. His motives and why he did certain things.. I knew from God personally how it would go and why.. I watched it all happen just as He said
 

jerry2465

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It is my (human) understanding that there were the original apostles who personally witnessed the life death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and were sent out to give the original church its start all over the world. If there were not "qualifications" to being an apostle, then why did they record it as such is acts when they needed to replace Judas who betrayed Jesus? Also at the time that the new testament was written, most of the apostles who witnessed Jesus life were still alive.

Acts 1:15-26English Standard Version (ESV)

[SUP]15 [/SUP]In those days Peter stood up among the brothers (the company of persons was in all about 120) and said, [SUP]16 [/SUP]“Brothers, the Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit spoke beforehand by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who became a guide to those who arrested Jesus. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For he was numbered among us and was allotted his share in this ministry.” [SUP]18 [/SUP](Now this man acquired a field with the reward of his wickedness, and falling headlong[SUP][a][/SUP] he burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out. [SUP]19 [/SUP]And it became known to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that the field was called in their own language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.) [SUP]20 [/SUP]“For it is written in the Book of Psalms,
“‘May his camp become desolate,
and let there be no one to dwell in it’;

and
“‘Let another take his office.’

[SUP]21[/SUP]So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, [SUP]22 [/SUP]beginning from the baptism of John until the day when he was taken up from us—one of these men must become with us a witness to his resurrection.” [SUP]23 [/SUP]And they put forward two, Joseph called Barsabbas, who was also called Justus, and Matthias. [SUP]24 [/SUP]And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which one of these two you have chosen [SUP]25 [/SUP]to take the place in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place.” [SUP]26 [/SUP]And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.
 
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HisHolly

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The Bible also has Paul who was not there.. as an Apostle bc he was called by God to be so.. There are others when people leave tradition and allow the Bible to actually teach what it says
It is my (human) understanding that there were the original apostles who personally witnessed the life death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and were sent out to give the original church its start all over the world. If there were not "qualifications" to being an apostle, then why did they record it as such is acts when they needed to replace Judas who betrayed Jesus? Also at the time that the new testament was written, most of the apostles who witnessed Jesus life were still alive.

Acts 1:15-26English Standard Version (ESV)

[SUP]15 [/SUP]In those days Peter stood up among the brothers (the company of persons was in all about 120) and said, [SUP]16 [/SUP]“Brothers, the Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit spoke beforehand by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who became a guide to those who arrested Jesus. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For he was numbered among us and was allotted his share in this ministry.” [SUP]18 [/SUP](Now this man acquired a field with the reward of his wickedness, and falling headlong[SUP][a][/SUP] he burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out. [SUP]19 [/SUP]And it became known to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that the field was called in their own language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.) [SUP]20 [/SUP]“For it is written in the Book of Psalms,
“‘May his camp become desolate,
and let there be no one to dwell in it’;

and
“‘Let another take his office.’

[SUP]21[/SUP]So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, [SUP]22 [/SUP]beginning from the baptism of John until the day when he was taken up from us—one of these men must become with us a witness to his resurrection.” [SUP]23 [/SUP]And they put forward two, Joseph called Barsabbas, who was also called Justus, and Matthias. [SUP]24 [/SUP]And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which one of these two you have chosen [SUP]25 [/SUP]to take the place in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place.” [SUP]26 [/SUP]And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.
 

jerry2465

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I don't go by tradition at all, I only use the bible for the complete source of everything related to God. There was a reason that there were requirements involved in replacing Judas, if we say that just anyone can be an apostle, then we ignore those verses.
 
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BeyondET

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#51
my mom had close to no faith and God healed her paralysed leg and set her spine again.. its not always faith. God may tell us some stuff but not everything.
I know a woman who was all strong in the Lord happy and everything and then a she was told to marry her now husband as it would be ''Gods will"
now shes just evil and bidder..not even to speak of the husband how he is. pure evil and all in the name of God.

I havent seen even once that if someone had a vision or ''prophetic'' word about a husbands looks or so, that it was from God. not even once. it ended up in destruction
Well did that all happen on its own the setting of her spine or was a doctor involved?
 

jerry2465

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#52
Paul also passes this test:

"So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, [SUP]22 [/SUP]beginning from the baptism of John until the day when he was taken up from us—one of these men must become with us a witness to his resurrection.”

He was present among them (even though he was their enemy) from the time of John the baptist until he was taken up from them.
 
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BeyondET

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#53
Paul also passes this test:

"So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, [SUP]22 [/SUP]beginning from the baptism of John until the day when he was taken up from us—one of these men must become with us a witness to his resurrection.”

He was present among them (even though he was their enemy) from the time of John the baptist until he was taken up from them.
Not quite understanding was present from the time of John the Baptist?
 

Demi777

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#54
she got in a car accident (not her fault) and her spine was S shaped and her leg paralyzed and a missionary just took her to church. The elders prayed for her and a few days later her pain as gone and shes walking to this day and has 2 kids. The doctors stunned as they gifted her the crutches saying that she will never walk again.
So the only doctor doing anything, was the great physician

Well did that all happen on its own the setting of her spine or was a doctor involved?
 
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she got in a car accident (not her fault) and her spine was S shaped and her leg paralyzed and a missionary just took her to church. The elders prayed for her and a few days later her pain as gone and shes walking to this day and has 2 kids. The doctors stunned as they gifted her the crutches saying that she will never walk again.
So the only doctor doing anything, was the great physician
So do you think God hadn't told someone before hand or did all that just happen..
 
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#57
The missionary or the elders may have well heard before hand on what to do...
 

Demi777

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#58
noone called her out specifically. they came to pray for the sick and she took her crutches and went forth there and she got healed.
So do you think God hadn't told someone before hand or did all that just happen..
 
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because paul was present (alive) during and since johns life and Jesus baptism by him.
Well I've heard that as well and it might very well be true though Paul would have been Saul of the Pharisees looking to kill Jesus...

After the baptism Jesus, He was fully in the power of the Lord, though before hand He was as well but growing and learning and healing, chasing out demons, curing the lame, etc. as well..
 
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noone called her out specifically. they came to pray for the sick and she took her crutches and went forth there and she got healed.
That you know of but doesn't mean they didn't hear something, sometimes people remain silent of such things and just do it...