If sin is to miss God's best, then do you see the problem?

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Jonteel

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Question 16 (16th of 16) Given the Bible's definition of sin, do you see the problem that immediately arises?

The Greek word used in the Bible (New Testament) is amartais. The definition it gives for sin is, "to miss God's best."

Do you see the problem that arises? This one will be a quick one, I promise. It should close before Wednesday..
 
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Grace abounds -- no problem, mate.
 

Magenta

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The righteous blood of Jesus Christ covers us :)
 

maxwel

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Hamartais = "missing the mark"

This is the Greek word in the New Testament which is translated as sin.





"Missing the mark" sounds insignificant... so why is it so bad?


1. It isn't an arbitrary mark that WE choose; it is a mark ESTABLISHED BY GOD.

2. Hitting this mark isn't optional, it is DEMANDED by God.

3. Missing this mark isn't an accident, WE INTENTIONALLY GO AGAINST GOD AND SHOOT AT SOMETHING ELSE.


Conclusion:

A. This "mark" we are supposed to hit is righteousness.

B. God CHOOSES this mark for us, DEMANDS that we hit it, and then we INTENTIONALLY violate God's command and willfully shoot at something else.


"Missing the mark" sounds innocuous, but it equates to willful rebellion against God.




 

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Question 16 (16th of 16) Given the Bible's definition of sin, do you see the problem that immediately arises?

The Greek word used in the Bible (New Testament) is amartais. The definition it gives for sin is, "to miss God's best."

Do you see the problem that arises? This one will be a quick one, I promise. It should close before Wednesday..
What problem? We have a Saviour, His name is Jesus Christ.
 

maxwel

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Edit: Hamartia

Sorry guys, too tired to spell tonight.. word is hamartia (not hamartais)
 
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Jonteel

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Cant beliee you guys are up! Do you want to have some time? Should I wait for those who are asleep? Today's been crazy, but not as nuts as I am used to. Oh,
didt work. I'm looking around to find you guys some stuff.
 
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Jonteel

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Thought to lay it out now. Well, cows need fed and the feds are coming up the driveway, so Lucka Nuche
 

Dan58

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Sometimes we focus so much on what not to do, that we forget the good we're suppose to do. To me, missing God's best, is not just misbehaving, but failing to do righteous things that demonstrate the nature of Christ. "For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me" (Matthew 25;35-36, & 40)
 

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If 'sin is missing the mark' then why is it not the Bible definition instead of 'transgressing the law ' ???

According to common belief 1Joh 3v4 should read 'don't miss the mark'.

Who is right...God or Sinners ?
 

Chester

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Question 16 (16th of 16) Given the Bible's definition of sin, do you see the problem that immediately arises?

The Greek word used in the Bible (New Testament) is amartais. The definition it gives for sin is, "to miss God's best."

Do you see the problem that arises? This one will be a quick one, I promise. It should close before Wednesday..
You are taking a definition for sin - "missing God's best" that is unproven, incomplete, and unbiblical as the basis for something else you want to share???

Can you give a Scripture that says sin is "missing God's best"?
 
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FreeNChrist

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Question 16 (16th of 16) Given the Bible's definition of sin, do you see the problem that immediately arises?

The Greek word used in the Bible (New Testament) is amartais. The definition it gives for sin is, "to miss God's best."

Do you see the problem that arises? This one will be a quick one, I promise. It should close before Wednesday..
I do see a problem. The mark that is missed is not Gods "best", but the holy character of God which is His glory.

Why start another thread on the same subject?
 
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You are taking a definition for sin - "missing God's best" that is unproven, incomplete, and unbiblical as the basis for something else you want to share???

Can you give a Scripture that says sin is "missing God's best"?
You're not following along or drinking the kool-aid!!!! :mad: ;) :eek: :p
 
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Johnteel, if you don't mind, could you walk us through the Greek , with roots too that the word came from, to show how you arrive at this definition? I know it will be some work for you but I would like to hear it. :)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Hamartais = "missing the mark"

This is the Greek word in the New Testament which is translated as sin.





"Missing the mark" sounds insignificant... so why is it so bad?


1. It isn't an arbitrary mark that WE choose; it is a mark ESTABLISHED BY GOD.

2. Hitting this mark isn't optional, it is DEMANDED by God.

3. Missing this mark isn't an accident, WE INTENTIONALLY GO AGAINST GOD AND SHOOT AT SOMETHING ELSE.


Conclusion:

A. This "mark" we are supposed to hit is righteousness.

B. God CHOOSES this mark for us, DEMANDS that we hit it, and then we INTENTIONALLY violate God's command and willfully shoot at something else.


"Missing the mark" sounds innocuous, but it equates to willful rebellion against God.




for all have sinned and fall short of that mark. It is knowledge that we do miss this mark daily that keeps our eyes focused clearly on Jesus.
 

stonesoffire

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I've already read the answer, and IMHO, it's well worth waiting for.
 
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Did I miss the answer...? :D
I've been thinking about it and the problem I see is that to miss the mark of righteousness is one thing. But the way we define sin seems to be focusing on many little things, or all the WAYS we miss the mark, on the outside. But we're still missing the mark because the mark is perfection inwardly...
 

stonesoffire

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Did I miss the answer...? :D
I've been thinking about it and the problem I see is that to miss the mark of righteousness is one thing. But the way we define sin seems to be focusing on many little things, or all the WAYS we miss the mark, on the outside. But we're still missing the mark because the mark is perfection inwardly...
No, it's not posted yet. Didn't he say tomorrow?