Answer for "a place that Gd did not create"

[Jonteel]

Beyond, I hope it's interesting. To begin, there are 4 pages of posts, and I didn't check them all. Sorry about that.
Oh, beware, I have been called a heretic for what you are about to read...

Let's start with this "God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all." (1 John 1:5)In Bible times, light was pretty harmless. Moses would not believe that light could cut metal. Today, we understand that light is a serious matter.

1 tim 6:16, Here we have the key. “Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach .... Amen.”

In medieval times they couldn't understand this simple verse. Now we do.

Since science has moved on we know more about light. For instance, lasers are used in most classes in school. Many students have seen how a laser can be passed through a crystal. The crystal isn't destroyed unless it is flawed with a dark spot...

Laser Types and Classification | Environmental Health and Safety | Oregon State University

God uses the natural world, to illuminate the supernatural world. Let's shed a little light. God seems to be a light on the order of a really powerful laser.. I'll allow you to examine the topic on your own time.

Now, where do we see a man that is able to be in God's presence and not be hurt? Adam is the answer. The sin thing comes around that time.

What do we know from Adam? Before he had sin, he was able to be with God. After sin, it's over. God doesn't enter the AO of Adam. So, logically we can make a leap...in is what man does not want to have. Not when God is around. Especially if you have no body to stop God's light.

Where can we go that God s not there? Well, scripture says that God is iin Hell. Psalm 139:8. Once we are dead, there's no where to hide.

As no one could find the answer, I'll post it here.
Millions, maybe billions, of people are atheists. Talk to them. They will tell you that God is evil because God created Hell. Now here is where the shadow of Picasso becomes relevant. bear with me.

Charles Templeton was Billy Graham's evangelistic partner. Many believed he was a BETTER minister than Billy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Templeton
You can verify the facts if you care.

Templeton turned his back on Christianity. He became a leader in the athiest/ non-believer community. He represents them pretty well.

He said that he couldn't believe in a god that would create Hell.

Well, if Picasso "created" his shadow, then God can be held culpable for said shadow. Can God be held responsible for Hell, and there in lies the argument.

Genesis 1:1 says, "God saw all that he had made, and it was very good." Does the Bible lie?

If you believe in a good God, and all He made is good, then go out and tell an atheist. Admittedly, many people dont have the IQ to understand higher concepts, but most atheists are pretty smart.

 

[Ariel82]

Are prisons or jails, good or evil?

Or should all criminals be put to death?


Or suffer no punishment at all?

 

[notbythesword]

Are prisons or jails, good or evil?

Or should all criminals be put to death?


Or suffer no punishment at all?

Well I can definitely say that I don’t think that "all" criminals should be put to death

 

[Utah]

Beyond, I hope it's interesting. To begin, there are 4 pages of posts, and I didn't check them all. Sorry about that.
Oh, beware, I have been called a heretic for what you are about to read...

Let's start with this "God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all." (1 John 1:5)In Bible times, light was pretty harmless. Moses would not believe that light could cut metal. Today, we understand that light is a serious matter.

1 tim 6:16, Here we have the key. “Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach .... Amen.”

In medieval times they couldn't understand this simple verse. Now we do.

Since science has moved on we know more about light. For instance, lasers are used in most classes in school. Many students have seen how a laser can be passed through a crystal. The crystal isn't destroyed unless it is flawed with a dark spot...

Laser Types and Classification | Environmental Health and Safety | Oregon State University

God uses the natural world, to illuminate the supernatural world. Let's shed a little light. God seems to be a light on the order of a really powerful laser.. I'll allow you to examine the topic on your own time.

Now, where do we see a man that is able to be in God's presence and not be hurt? Adam is the answer. The sin thing comes around that time.

What do we know from Adam? Before he had sin, he was able to be with God. After sin, it's over. God doesn't enter the AO of Adam. So, logically we can make a leap...in is what man does not want to have. Not when God is around. Especially if you have no body to stop God's light.

Where can we go that God s not there? Well, scripture says that God is iin Hell. Psalm 139:8. Once we are dead, there's no where to hide.

As no one could find the answer, I'll post it here.
Millions, maybe billions, of people are atheists. Talk to them. They will tell you that God is evil because God created Hell. Now here is where the shadow of Picasso becomes relevant. bear with me.

Charles Templeton was Billy Graham's evangelistic partner. Many believed he was a BETTER minister than Billy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Templeton
You can verify the facts if you care.

Templeton turned his back on Christianity. He became a leader in the athiest/ non-believer community. He represents them pretty well.

He said that he couldn't believe in a god that would create Hell.

Well, if Picasso "created" his shadow, then God can be held culpable for said shadow. Can God be held responsible for Hell, and there in lies the argument.

Genesis 1:1 says, "God saw all that he had made, and it was very good." Does the Bible lie?

If you believe in a good God, and all He made is good, then go out and tell an atheist. Admittedly, many people dont have the IQ to understand higher concepts, but most atheists are pretty smart.

I'm sorry; did you say something?

 

[NotmebutHim]

"But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." - 1 Corinthians 2:14

 

[kaylagrl]

I'm sorry; did you say something?

ROFL, once again, you slay me.

 

[kaylagrl]

Beyond, I hope it's interesting. To begin, there are 4 pages of posts, and I didn't check them all. Sorry about that.
Oh, beware, I have been called a heretic for what you are about to read...

Let's start with this "God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all." (1 John 1:5)In Bible times, light was pretty harmless. Moses would not believe that light could cut metal. Today, we understand that light is a serious matter.

1 tim 6:16, Here we have the key. “Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach .... Amen.”

In medieval times they couldn't understand this simple verse. Now we do.

Since science has moved on we know more about light. For instance, lasers are used in most classes in school. Many students have seen how a laser can be passed through a crystal. The crystal isn't destroyed unless it is flawed with a dark spot...

Laser Types and Classification | Environmental Health and Safety | Oregon State University

God uses the natural world, to illuminate the supernatural world. Let's shed a little light. God seems to be a light on the order of a really powerful laser.. I'll allow you to examine the topic on your own time.

Now, where do we see a man that is able to be in God's presence and not be hurt? Adam is the answer. The sin thing comes around that time.

What do we know from Adam? Before he had sin, he was able to be with God. After sin, it's over. God doesn't enter the AO of Adam. So, logically we can make a leap...in is what man does not want to have. Not when God is around. Especially if you have no body to stop God's light.

Where can we go that God s not there? Well, scripture says that God is iin Hell. Psalm 139:8. Once we are dead, there's no where to hide.

As no one could find the answer, I'll post it here.
Millions, maybe billions, of people are atheists. Talk to them. They will tell you that God is evil because God created Hell. Now here is where the shadow of Picasso becomes relevant. bear with me.

Charles Templeton was Billy Graham's evangelistic partner. Many believed he was a BETTER minister than Billy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Templeton
You can verify the facts if you care.

Templeton turned his back on Christianity. He became a leader in the athiest/ non-believer community. He represents them pretty well.

He said that he couldn't believe in a god that would create Hell.

Well, if Picasso "created" his shadow, then God can be held culpable for said shadow. Can God be held responsible for Hell, and there in lies the argument.

Genesis 1:1 says, "God saw all that he had made, and it was very good." Does the Bible lie?

If you believe in a good God, and all He made is good, then go out and tell an atheist. Admittedly, many people dont have the IQ to understand higher concepts, but most atheists are pretty smart.

You can believe in a good God and a just God. Templeton was interviewed by former atheist Lee Strobel and he confessed that he missed Jesus. He said the following just before he died...

"“He was,” Templeton began, “the greatest human being who has ever lived. He was a moral genius. His ethical sense was unique. He was the intrinsically wisest person that I’ve ever encountered in my life or in my readings. His commitment was total and led to his own death, much to the detriment of the world. What could one say about him except that this was a form of greatness?”I was taken aback. “You sound like you really care about him,” I said.
“Well, yes, he is the most important thing in my life,” came his reply. “I . . . I . . . I . . . ,” he stuttered, searching for the right word, ‘I know it may sound strange, but I have to say . . . I adore him!” . . .
” . . . Everything good I know, everything decent I know, everything pure I know, I learned from Jesus. Yes . . . yes. And tough! Just look at Jesus. He castigated people. He was angry. People don’t think of him that way, but they don’t read the Bible. He had a righteous anger. He cared for the oppressed and exploited. There’s no question that he had the highest moral standard, the least duplicity, the greatest compassion, of any human being in history. There have been many other wonderful people, but Jesus is Jesus….’
“Uh . . . but . . . no,’ he said slowly, ‘he’s the most . . .” He stopped, then started again. “In my view,” he declared, “he is the most important human being who has ever existed.”
That’s when Templeton uttered the words I never expected to hear from him. “And if I may put it this way,” he said as his voice began to crack, ‘I . . . miss . . . him!”


https://blogs.thegospelcoalition.org/justintaylor/2013/05/09/charles-templeton-missing-jesus/

 

[JesusLives]

He did not create sin. He gave a way out in case of it but He didn't create it.

 

[tourist]

So what is the answer to the question?

 

[Chester]

So what is the answer to the question?

You didn't get it either?!!

He is trying to say that God did not create hell.

 

[Grace777x70]

You can believe in a good God and a just God. Templeton was interviewed by former atheist Lee Strobel and he confessed that he missed Jesus. He said the following just before he died...

"“He was,” Templeton began, “the greatest human being who has ever lived. He was a moral genius. His ethical sense was unique. He was the intrinsically wisest person that I’ve ever encountered in my life or in my readings. His commitment was total and led to his own death, much to the detriment of the world. What could one say about him except that this was a form of greatness?”I was taken aback. “You sound like you really care about him,” I said.
“Well, yes, he is the most important thing in my life,” came his reply. “I . . . I . . . I . . . ,” he stuttered, searching for the right word, ‘I know it may sound strange, but I have to say . . . I adore him!” . . .
” . . . Everything good I know, everything decent I know, everything pure I know, I learned from Jesus. Yes . . . yes. And tough! Just look at Jesus. He castigated people. He was angry. People don’t think of him that way, but they don’t read the Bible. He had a righteous anger. He cared for the oppressed and exploited. There’s no question that he had the highest moral standard, the least duplicity, the greatest compassion, of any human being in history. There have been many other wonderful people, but Jesus is Jesus….’
“Uh . . . but . . . no,’ he said slowly, ‘he’s the most . . .” He stopped, then started again. “In my view,” he declared, “he is the most important human being who has ever existed.”
That’s when Templeton uttered the words I never expected to hear from him. “And if I may put it this way,” he said as his voice began to crack, ‘I . . . miss . . . him!”


https://blogs.thegospelcoalition.org/justintaylor/2013/05/09/charles-templeton-missing-jesus/

Thank you for that article....

He sounds like a man that was disillusioned in his mind and emotions with the religion of Christianity but in his heart - his spirit where Christ dwells, he believed in Christ ( if he was in fact in Christ - as only God knows the heart of men and can answer that ).

Many times our mind and emotions can dominate us but these do not affect our real heart which is our spirit which is in Christ. Which is why I believe Christians suffering from mental problems and kill themselves are still saved because it is with the heart that man believes - not the head.

People can get messed up in their minds for various reasons.

 

[BeyondET]

Beyond, I hope it's interesting. To begin, there are 4 pages of posts, and I didn't check them all. Sorry about that.
Oh, beware, I have been called a heretic for what you are about to read...

Let's start with this "God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all." (1 John 1:5)In Bible times, light was pretty harmless. Moses would not believe that light could cut metal. Today, we understand that light is a serious matter.

1 tim 6:16, Here we have the key. “Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach .... Amen.”

In medieval times they couldn't understand this simple verse. Now we do.

Since science has moved on we know more about light. For instance, lasers are used in most classes in school. Many students have seen how a laser can be passed through a crystal. The crystal isn't destroyed unless it is flawed with a dark spot...

Laser Types and Classification | Environmental Health and Safety | Oregon State University

God uses the natural world, to illuminate the supernatural world. Let's shed a little light. God seems to be a light on the order of a really powerful laser.. I'll allow you to examine the topic on your own time.

Now, where do we see a man that is able to be in God's presence and not be hurt? Adam is the answer. The sin thing comes around that time.

What do we know from Adam? Before he had sin, he was able to be with God. After sin, it's over. God doesn't enter the AO of Adam. So, logically we can make a leap...in is what man does not want to have. Not when God is around. Especially if you have no body to stop God's light.

Where can we go that God s not there? Well, scripture says that God is iin Hell. Psalm 139:8. Once we are dead, there's no where to hide.

As no one could find the answer, I'll post it here.
Millions, maybe billions, of people are atheists. Talk to them. They will tell you that God is evil because God created Hell. Now here is where the shadow of Picasso becomes relevant. bear with me.

Charles Templeton was Billy Graham's evangelistic partner. Many believed he was a BETTER minister than Billy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Templeton
You can verify the facts if you care.

Templeton turned his back on Christianity. He became a leader in the athiest/ non-believer community. He represents them pretty well.

He said that he couldn't believe in a god that would create Hell.

Well, if Picasso "created" his shadow, then God can be held culpable for said shadow. Can God be held responsible for Hell, and there in lies the argument.

Genesis 1:1 says, "God saw all that he had made, and it was very good." Does the Bible lie?

If you believe in a good God, and all He made is good, then go out and tell an atheist. Admittedly, many people dont have the IQ to understand higher concepts, but most atheists are pretty smart.

Hmm, makes me think of quantum entanglement or known as quantum mechanically entangled particles...

 

[p_rehbein]

Found an interesting web site.......don't know if it is where this guy is from, but some of it sounds familiar to what he is posting.

God Did Not Create Evil, Cold or Darkness - s8int.com

Apparently, they are called just as the link says "s8int.com" Never heard of these guys

 

[FreeNChrist]

I had a feeling this was all going to be anti-climatic.

“Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels." Matthew 25:41

 

[kaylagrl]

Thank you for that article....

He sounds like a man that was disillusioned in his mind and emotions with the religion of Christianity but in his heart - his spirit where Christ dwells, he believed in Christ ( if he was in fact in Christ - as only God knows the heart of men and can answer that ).

Many times our mind and emotions can dominate us but these do not affect our real heart which is our spirit which is in Christ. Which is why I believe Christians suffering from mental problems and kill themselves are still saved because it is with the heart that man believes - not the head.

People can get messed up in their minds for various reasons.

I believe he had a lot of questions that he could not answer and he turned to atheism for the answer. But you could see in his heart he knew somewhere down deep there is a God. I hope he confessed that before he took his last breath. I think it is very possible.

Thank you for the rep. btw.

 

[Chester]

Found an interesting web site.......don't know if it is where this guy is from, but some of it sounds familiar to what he is posting.

God Did Not Create Evil, Cold or Darkness - s8int.com

Apparently, they are called just as the link says "s8int.com" Never heard of these guys

Not sure, I didn't have much time - this website seems to believe in creationism and says they believe in taking the Bible literally. ??? the website seems very valid at first glance - I had only about 5 minutes

 

[p_rehbein]

I did not give it much time either.............never know what will be found in the "details" as they say.

As you know.......the devil is in the details......or so the saying goes.

I just do not trust this guy.........something just does not seem right with him........mayhaps that's just me, but........

Not sure, I didn't have much time - this website seems to believe in creationism and says they believe in taking the Bible literally. ??? the website seems very valid at first glance - I had only about 5 minutes

 

[BeyondET]

What's up with those northern lights pretty cool stuff in my opinion..
Some more fun facts about light and color

[video=youtube;53-g1Oa0ReI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53-g1Oa0ReI[/video]

 

[BeyondET]

Pink a interesting color

 

[BeyondET]

If hell wasn't created/prepared as you mentioned in the OP. Then what would be your explanation for Matthew 25:41

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: