Can someone translate these verses for me?

[Adstar]

I do know some verses that say Jesus is God. But these JWs keep debating with different versions of the bible with me so its like we're not reading the same thing and we're getting different interpretations. And people tell me the KJV is corrupt so now I don't even know if what I'm reading is properly translated. And in turn it is sort of killing my faith in God.

People attack the Word of God.. Even in Christian forums like CC..

The KJV is the Word of God of that you can be assured..

 

[South_FLA]

Well then, why are you still here??
He is on His way, so go read about Jesus! You will see many things you missed when you read it before!

I will when I wake up tomorrow! I've been up all night so I need to go to bed lol.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

I will when I wake up tomorrow! I've been up all night so I need to go to bed lol.

Well then, do it first thing, please!
And since you know He is on the way, when you come to something you don't understand, just ask Him. You don't have to ask men. And when the Holy Spirit comes, He will teach you all things and you will have no need of any other teacher. That is something Jesus said.

 

[JaumeJ]

Jesus Christ became flesh in order to "qualify" to be what was His to be anyway, and that is the judge of us all. He was not God while on earth until the day He ascended to the Father.

Now no flesh may boast in the sight of God because God became flesh, experienced the temptations of all individuals, and overcame them all just for you and for me.

He did have faith and all knowledge, but He was temporarily not God. He counted it nothing to be in the flesh because He had to overcome sin for all of us. While in the flesh He was not privvy to the day or the time..........it did not matter becaue He knew all God has siad is true, and yes, Jesus Christ is God.......... God does what pleases Him, and I do believe what pleases God is always good... If they do not like your response to one scripture, why should they balk at your not liking their ignorance of all the scripture you have given them. They will no change unless the Lord chages them, and they must be willing to understand that no individual will ever understand all of the Word, asice from our Lord and SAvior. Sometimes it is best to walk away. If these people continue in adamant ignorance, always remember and rejoice that they call you stupid or dumb, they calle dour Saviormuch worse.........God bless you.

I showed them Isaiah 9:6 and I showed them Revelation verses that clearly show Jesus is God like for ex. Revelation 1:17-18.
They keep saying I'm misinterpreting it. One of them keeps calling me dumb. This is what one of them responded with for the reference to Isa 9:6

"in mark 13:32. it said. "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. so if Jesus Christ is God Almighty. will he not know the day?"

 

[South_FLA]

People attack the Word of God.. Even in Christian forums like CC..

The KJV is the Word of God of that you can be assured..

Idk who to believe anymore. People keep telling me it is the Word of God and then others tell me there's a good amount of errors in it. The worst part is God himself is not saying anything to me. So I'm just gonna stick with my KJV, I have a gut feeling it is the best translation in English.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Idk who to believe anymore. People keep telling me it is the Word of God and then others tell me there's a good amount of errors in it. The worst part is God himself is not saying anything to me. So I'm just gonna stick with my KJV, I have a gut feeling it is the best translation in English.

He can use any translation to teach you. If the KJV seems hard because of the old language, try NASB. I began for at least 9 years with NLT because it was easier for me to comprehend. You can find free translations online. He can teach you and give you understanding from any of them. Your own understanding won't explain it all to you. HE will once you receive the Spirit.

 

[South_FLA]

Jesus Christ became flesh in order to "qualify" to be what was His to be anyway, and that is the judge of us all. He was not God while on earth until the day He ascended to the Father.

Now no flesh may boast in the sight of God because God became flesh, experienced the temptations of all individuals, and overcame them all just for you and for me.

He did have faith and all knowledge, but He was temporarily not God. He counted it nothing to be in the flesh because He had to overcome sin for all of us. While in the flesh He was not privvy to the day or the time..........it did not matter becaue He knew all God has siad is true, and yes, Jesus Christ is God.......... God does what pleases Him, and I do believe what pleases God is always good... If they do not like your response to one scripture, why should they balk at your not liking their ignorance of all the scripture you have given them. They will no change unless the Lord chages them, and they must be willing to understand that no individual will ever understand all of the Word, asice from our Lord and SAvior. Sometimes it is best to walk away. If these people continue in adamant ignorance, always remember and rejoice that they call you stupid or dumb, they calle dour Saviormuch worse.........God bless you.

God bless you! I will explain much more to you later, I have to go now because I'm getting sleepy.

 

[South_FLA]

He can use any translation to teach you. If the KJV seems hard because of the old language, try NASB. I began for at least 9 years with NLT because it was easier for me to comprehend. You can find free translations online. He can teach you and give you understanding from any of them. Your own understanding won't explain it all to you. HE will once you receive the Spirit.

see u later sister . I have this one called the Recovery version. I will read and compare it with my KJV. I can't let go of my KJV, I love it a lot for some reason lol

 

[John146]

1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

If I read this verse in Greek or Hebrew would it say the same thing? I've heard that the English version is corrupt.
And if you don't mind, I'd love to have some more verses translated as well.

I'd love to translate for you. What the word of God is saying is...

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Don't believe the doubters that say, "That's not in the original Greek..." News flash...we don't have the original Greek. Leave it as it stands and believe it.

 

[BeyondET]

I'd love to translate for you. What the word of God is saying is...

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Don't believe the doubters that say, "That's not in the original Greek..." News flash...we don't have the original Greek. Leave it as it stands and believe it.

Well no doubt the orginal Greek Aramaic NT from the orginal disciples have long been worn out and lost but those have copies as well and date well before KJ bible, which is a updated English version of the bishop bible before that the great bible. these earlier English translations used early Greek Aramaic manuscripts...

 

[notuptome]

I'd love to translate for you. What the word of God is saying is...

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Don't believe the doubters that say, "That's not in the original Greek..." News flash...we don't have the original Greek. Leave it as it stands and believe it.

Read the preface to the KJV and you will see that the translators admit that their translation is not perfect. They represent it as a good and reliable translation but admit that they are men and therefore flawed.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[notuptome]

see u later sister . I have this one called the Recovery version. I will read and compare it with my KJV. I can't let go of my KJV, I love it a lot for some reason lol

Nothing wrong with the KJV. There is also no reason for you to prove that Jesus Christ is God. Jesus is God incarnate and if the JW's reject Him as such they remain lost and under eternal condemnation. Ask them why they have removed verses from their bible, so called?

Did Jesus Christ resurrect from the grave? Is Jesus now seated at the right hand of God in heaven?

Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Hebrews 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Angela53510]

When I gave you the Hebrew explanation previously, bear in mind always what Angel has posted about the incomplete Greek translation according to her source. Many words are translated from Hebrew and Aramaic into languages without certain understanding of what the words truly mean.

When I give you my results from reading, this should be understood while reading. Until the time of Michaelangelo, people were taught that Moses descended the Mount having horns, only to later discern the word means also rays. Proof of this is his stattue of Moses in the Vatican i believe, complete with horns.......... Unicor is also translated as a type of buffalo.

It is the Holy Spirit Who gives us understanding, even if translations are slightly or greatly erroneous. I studdied Hebrew long after learning by reading and praying and being inspired by the Holy Spirit. The truth is, after teh infilling of the HOly Spirit I knew everything I needed to know concerning my own salvation and understanding.....enything since practically superfluous.

I will look kup that verse and be back. God bless you......PS..Jesus Christ was not a Christian, He was a Jew by Tribe and Hebrew Who teaches the faith of Abraham according to His gospel which had also been given to Abraham...not spoken of much.

So are you talking about Hebraic idioms? I don't think those words were not understood! In my studies of Greek in the NT, pretty much any commentary or exegetical key, to say nothing of Bauer (BDAG) the Greek-English lexicon, always note the Hebraic idioms. They are pretty obvious, because they are either transliterated - meaning they changed from Hebrew characters to the Greek alphabet, trying to keep the pronounciations very close - or they are notable because the grammar or combinations are not found in Greek, but they are found in Hebrew. There are lots of these, but they are in Greek, and I would say pretty much any good Greek scholar has a background or understanding of Hebrew. So today, these things are understood.

I do agree that there used to be many mistakes because of copyist errors, etc in the later manuscripts. Fortunately, God has allowed many early manuscripts to be found, and there are scholars who spend their whole lives tracing the origins of a mistake, and following it down through the centuries. I know Daniel Wallace is now in Istanbul in the Orthodox monasteries going through their libraries to catelogue manuscripts which have been there for millennia. After that, he has been invited to Greece, to catalogue all the manuscripts there. Who knows what he will uncover??

I guess you are right about Jesus not being a Christian! Because the term wasn't coined till after he had died, been resurrected and returned to the Father.

 

[dcontroversal]

I'm sorry. I'm just looking for answers because these Jehovah's witnesses keep trying to convince me that Jesus isn't God. I just prayed to God to reveal me the truth. Unfortunately, God never answers any questions I ask him. And when I say that I mean he hasn't ever directly spoken to me.

Don't buy into their lies....Jesus is God..Numerous verses prove this....

Hebrews chapter 1 Jesus is the physical IMAGE of the invisible GOD

I the beginning when God said let US create man in our image....

ALL things were created BY HIM and FOR HIM.....<--speaking of JESUS

The FATHER judges no man, but has committed all judgment unto the son
I saw the dead stand before GOD and they were judged by the books that were opened...

If the FATHER judges NO man but has committed all judgment unto the SON then the people standing before GOD are standing before JESUS...

etc.....many verse testify to the truth that JESUS is GOD.....DO NOT buy into the LIES of the JEHOVAHS WITNESS...they are a cult started by Charles RUSSEL a liar and a deceiver.......!

 

[Depleted]

I'm sorry. I'm just looking for answers because these Jehovah's witnesses keep trying to convince me that Jesus isn't God. I just prayed to God to reveal me the truth. Unfortunately, God never answers any questions I ask him. And when I say that I mean he hasn't ever directly spoken to me.

Unless you plan on becoming a biblical scholar in the brief time given between JW visits, why not just google how to respond to their pat answers?

Here's a start. https://www.google.com/webhp?source...pologetics+for+arguing+with+Jehovah+Witnesses

 

[samuel23]

I used to love to visit with JWs. Since I knew the bible very well and they do teach errors it was easy for me to get the upper hand in any debate. Now, if you do not know the bible really well then be careful of JWs because they do study the bible a lot and know what is written in it.

 

[trofimus]

I'm sorry. I'm just looking for answers because these Jehovah's witnesses keep trying to convince me that Jesus isn't God. I just prayed to God to reveal me the truth. Unfortunately, God never answers any questions I ask him. And when I say that I mean he hasn't ever directly spoken to me.

For JW's:
Quick Christian Source - Bible Verses Proving the Trinity

God is talking to you in many ways, it does not need to be an audible sound.

 

[trofimus]

Idk who to believe anymore. People keep telling me it is the Word of God and then others tell me there's a good amount of errors in it. The worst part is God himself is not saying anything to me. So I'm just gonna stick with my KJV, I have a gut feeling it is the best translation in English.

You can use any translation you like for "common reading".

If you want to study something, like the verses to prove the deity of Christ, compare all sources.
For example biblehub.com have nice parallel verses: biblehub.com

 

[Angela53510]

And: these three are one - was added?

Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier on your question. I'm back in Greek class, and the translations are quite a challenge!

“5:7 For there are three that testify, 5:8 the Spirit and the water and the blood, and these three are in agreement.” ‑‑NET Bible

Before τὸ πνεῦμα καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ καὶ τὸ αἷμα, the Textus Receptus reads ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ, ὁ πατήρ, ὁ λόγος, καὶ τὸ ἅγιον πνεῦμα, καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσι. 5·8 καὶ τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῇ γῇ (“in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. 5:8 And there are three that testify on earth”). This reading, the infamous Comma Johanneum, has been known in the English-speaking world through the King James translation. However, the evidence—both external and internal—is decidedly against its authenticity. Our discussion will briefly address the external evidence."

https://bible.org/article/textual-problem-1-john-57-8

Verse 7 is totally lacking the entire phrase "in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one."

Some people would love to have this added part of the verse there, because appears to unequivocally prove the Trinity. Now, I believe totally in the Trinity. But that still doesn't mean a part which was added to manuscripts in the 16th century, which never appeared before in any Greek manuscripts, including the Textus Receptus, should be included.

I think if we want to talk about the Trinity we simply have to find evidence elsewhere in the Bible.

Of course, this whole issue is but another reason I don't like the KJV. It simply is not accurate, and not true to the manuscripts.

 

[Angela53510]

I'd love to translate for you. What the word of God is saying is...

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Don't believe the doubters that say, "That's not in the original Greek..." News flash...we don't have the original Greek. Leave it as it stands and believe it.

Since there are exactly 8 manuscripts from the 16th century that have this addition "The Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost, these three are one." it is quite likely that it is NOT in the original autographs.

Of course we do not have the "original" autographs! Not one person said, that if you had actually read the posts. We are talking about manuscript evidence for the Johannian Comma, which does not exist except in some obscure later manuscripts. Not even in your Textus Receptus manuscripts. Even Martin Luther left this extra part out of his German translation, and Erasmus left it out of his first edition, and only put it in after pressure from the Catholic church, of whom he was a priest. This was a mistake in the Latin Vulgate, and even Erasmus had to backwards translate from Latin to add it in. Because it could not be found in any Greek manuscript, at that time and was only added much later to some Greek manuscripts in Erasmus' future!

If the goal of the OP is to witness to JW's, there is no point pretending that the added point in 1 John 5:7 is authentic. That just deflects from his case.

I have some things I wrote up, on John 1:1 and "I am" in the Greek. I will start a post on it and see what you think. They are fairly long, but they might be helpful. They do depend heavily on the Greek, but because the JW's use a translation that is completely worthless, the New World Translation, it is important to go back to the Greek, to look at why their translation is so bad. And why the Bible proves over and over that the Trinity is true, and that Jesus is God.

PS. Not like Jaume said, either! Jesus was born the "incarnation of God" right from Matthew 1.

"All this took place to fulfil what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 ‘The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel’ (which means ‘God with us’)." Matt 1:22-23

I will also say to the OP, if they are shaming you and calling you names like stupid, time to bar them from your house. This is verbal abuse, which is typical of cults, which the JW's are.