The Old Covenant
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AMEN....I am confused (NOT) about why God inspired men to write about the LION of the TRIBE of JUDAH ruling from the THRONE of DAVID in the LAND and the JEWS repopulating the WASTE CITIES and SITTING UNDER THEIR OWN VINES.....
Again, God must be missing something here....HE must be confused....HE must not REMEMBER that HE has cut ISRAEL off forever and there really is no THRONE of DAVID and NO LION of JUDAH that will rule for a 1000 years....blah blah blah!
Again, God must be missing something here....HE must be confused....HE must not REMEMBER that HE has cut ISRAEL off forever and there really is no THRONE of DAVID and NO LION of JUDAH that will rule for a 1000 years....blah blah blah!
K
"deliberately stupid,or they really are a bit stupid." If you told the truth about your age,at 62 you know better then this. You're telling people to do something you yourself are not willing to do. I could throw the same back in your face. But that would be childish. Surely this isn't kindergarten and we're above calling people "stupid head" because they dont agree.
E
Ummmmm guess you were not done arguing about the place of Israel in history hey....
Re: UN vote What does it mean
I'm done arguing. That post is not to engage you or any of your other buddies, it is there for real believers to make sure they do not get caught up in the deceit.
E
why just start there?
We ignore the rest?
what part of that has to do with the forgiveness of one sin, can you answer that?
why did God mention the other covenant?
of course it is part of the law given on the mount, It is NOT however part of the law done away with, BECAUSE IT DID NOTHING TO LEAD ANYONE TO CHRIST.
I can only ask what part of that is hard ot understand?
We ignore the rest?
what part of that has to do with the forgiveness of one sin, can you answer that?
why did God mention the other covenant?
of course it is part of the law given on the mount, It is NOT however part of the law done away with, BECAUSE IT DID NOTHING TO LEAD ANYONE TO CHRIST.
I can only ask what part of that is hard ot understand?
The bible says people will continue to say God cast them away
Jeremiah 33:24 (KJV)
Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying,
The two families which the Lord hath chosen, he hath even cast them off?
thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.
Jeremiah 33:24 (KJV)
Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying,
The two families which the Lord hath chosen, he hath even cast them off?
thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.
[h=3]Zechariah 10:6 (KJV)[/h]
And I will strengthen the house of Judah, and I will save the house of Joseph,
and I will bring them again to place them; for I have mercy upon them:
and they shall be as though I had notcast them off: for I am the Lord their God,
and will hear them.
and I will bring them again to place them; for I have mercy upon them:
and they shall be as though I had notcast them off: for I am the Lord their God,
and will hear them.
E
quite amazing.
What happened to her and KJV just having a discussion? she did the very thing KJV said we need to stop. which is name calling..
Will wait to see if he calls her out for that..
I have an hour drive to return home so will be gone for a bit.. Try to keep showing scripture.. for anyone who may walk in the room..
The first verse of Revealtions 7 starts with::
Now it says after these things.. What things? Well after the things spoken of in Revealtion chapter 6 so let us read:::
Revelation 6 KJV
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Where was it recorded in 70 AD that the moon became Blood Red or the Sun became as sackcloth?
I tnever happened::
Where was it recorded that in 70 AD that The kings of the earth and the mighty men of the earth and every bond and free man hid themselves in caves in the mountains in terrified fear of the comming of the LORD and His day of Wrath?
It never happened..
What is it that causes people to grasp onto 70 AD as the fulfillment of the book of Revelation when it clearly is not.. What is your real problem with God Redeeming 144,000 hebrew decendants in the Day of the LORD ?
Now it says after these things.. What things? Well after the things spoken of in Revealtion chapter 6 so let us read:::
Revelation 6 KJV
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Where was it recorded in 70 AD that the moon became Blood Red or the Sun became as sackcloth?
I tnever happened::
Where was it recorded that in 70 AD that The kings of the earth and the mighty men of the earth and every bond and free man hid themselves in caves in the mountains in terrified fear of the comming of the LORD and His day of Wrath?
It never happened..
What is it that causes people to grasp onto 70 AD as the fulfillment of the book of Revelation when it clearly is not.. What is your real problem with God Redeeming 144,000 hebrew decendants in the Day of the LORD ?
K
EG already answered before me. But further in Jer.31 its says,
This is what the Lord says:
“Only if the heavens above can be measured
and the foundations of the earth below be searched out
will I reject all the descendants of Israel
because of all they have done,”
declares the Lord.
That is after the verse you gave a lot further into the book. So God says He will not reject Israel. Ezekiel sees the valley of dry bones coming to life.
and the foundations of the earth below be searched out
will I reject all the descendants of Israel
because of all they have done,”
declares the Lord.
That is after the verse you gave a lot further into the book. So God says He will not reject Israel. Ezekiel sees the valley of dry bones coming to life.
“For a brief moment I abandoned you,
but with deep compassion I will bring you back.
In a surge of anger
I hid my face from you for a moment,
but with everlasting kindness
I will have compassion on you,”
says the Lord your Redeemer.
but with deep compassion I will bring you back.
In a surge of anger
I hid my face from you for a moment,
but with everlasting kindness
I will have compassion on you,”
says the Lord your Redeemer.
(Isaiah 54: 7-8 NIV)
My personal view when all the facts are taken in the whole is that the 144,000 are the wave offering by Christ as the first fruits unto God...they are ALL the boys under the age of 2 murdered by Herod in ALL the coasts of Israel.....
being redeemed from the EARTH and FROM among MEN (they have lived and died)
ALL virgin males not defiled with women
no deceit or guile
follow the Lord where ever he goes
only two places listed (location) In HEAVEN before the throne and ON MOUNT ZION with JESUS
learn a UNIQUE song only they know and can sing (unique group)
etc...
Rachael weeping for her children and her children are not (unique prophecy applied unto the boys killed by HEROD)
Talk about a perfect first fruit offering (same word applied unto JESUS)
144,000 pure Jewish males and the 1st MARTYRS in the place of and for the particular name of JESUS.....
being redeemed from the EARTH and FROM among MEN (they have lived and died)
ALL virgin males not defiled with women
no deceit or guile
follow the Lord where ever he goes
only two places listed (location) In HEAVEN before the throne and ON MOUNT ZION with JESUS
learn a UNIQUE song only they know and can sing (unique group)
etc...
Rachael weeping for her children and her children are not (unique prophecy applied unto the boys killed by HEROD)
Talk about a perfect first fruit offering (same word applied unto JESUS)
144,000 pure Jewish males and the 1st MARTYRS in the place of and for the particular name of JESUS.....
J
The Kingdom is spiritual and not genetic at the point of endtimes, and when divided into twelve tribes one could (and some do) argue that each subset of 12,000 is identified by unique character attribute that defines their group.
Reuben – The First
Simeon – The Aggressor
Levi – The Cleric
Judah – The Leader
Dan – The Judge
Naphtali – The Free Spirit
Gad – The Warrior
Asher – The Prosperous One
Issachar – The Scholar
Zebulun – The Businessperson
Joseph – The Sufferer
Menashe – Reconnection
Ephraim – Transformation
Benjamin – The Ravenous Consumer
For all we know, we could be talking about anonymous Trump supporters.
Zion is the ship that Neo ends up on in The Matrix, after all.
Reuben – The First
Simeon – The Aggressor
Levi – The Cleric
Judah – The Leader
Dan – The Judge
Naphtali – The Free Spirit
Gad – The Warrior
Asher – The Prosperous One
Issachar – The Scholar
Zebulun – The Businessperson
Joseph – The Sufferer
Menashe – Reconnection
Ephraim – Transformation
Benjamin – The Ravenous Consumer
For all we know, we could be talking about anonymous Trump supporters.
Zion is the ship that Neo ends up on in The Matrix, after all.