Live by Jesus teachings or Paul's?
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JESUS said,the words HE spoke were Spirit and Life and the Spirit of GOD was In Paul.
1st Corinthians 2:10-13
King James Version( KJV)
10.)But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11.)For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12.)Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13.)Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1st Corinthians 2:10-13
King James Version( KJV)
10.)But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11.)For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12.)Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13.)Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
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We need to take scripture in context or that text will con you.
Take Hebrews 12:14 as an excellent example. Taken isolated - we dream up all sorts of man-made traditions. But it context with "other" scriptures around it - it becomes evident what is being spoken about here.
Hebrews 12:12-15 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Therefore, strengthen the hands that are weak and the knees that are feeble,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] and make straight paths for your feet, so that the limb which is lame may not be put out of joint, but rather be healed.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;
The context of this verse, Hebrews 12:13 instructs us to not walk in a manner that will cause others to stumble.
Therefore, I believe this verse isn’t talking about us seeing God but rather that if we don’t act in a holy manner, no one will see God in our lives. ( we are a living epistle )
That would certainly be a true statement that is not only consistent with Hebrews 12:14 but leads perfectly into Hebrews 12:15.
Our actions don’t earn the grace of God. That wouldn’t be grace (Romans 11:6). Therefore, we don’t fall from grace by not being holy enough to earn it. Galatians 5:4 speaks of falling from grace by putting faith in our works instead of having our faith firmly placed in Christ and what He did for us. So, the way people “fail of the grace of God” is through legalism.
Hebrews 12:15 - Notice that bitterness in our lives doesn’t just hurt or poison us but many people. Again the context of this verse shows that we are supposed to walk in a manner that influences others in a positive way. If we get bitter, that bitterness will affect others.
Works-based salvationsists have used this verse to beat people with for years as we know we are sanctified forever in our inner man now and we do need to work out what is already in us in Christ in our outward behavior.
This has nothing to do with " becoming un-born as a child of God" and not seeing the Lord ourselves and thus losing the free gift He gave us in Christ's finished work.
Take Hebrews 12:14 as an excellent example. Taken isolated - we dream up all sorts of man-made traditions. But it context with "other" scriptures around it - it becomes evident what is being spoken about here.
Hebrews 12:12-15 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Therefore, strengthen the hands that are weak and the knees that are feeble,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] and make straight paths for your feet, so that the limb which is lame may not be put out of joint, but rather be healed.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;
The context of this verse, Hebrews 12:13 instructs us to not walk in a manner that will cause others to stumble.
Therefore, I believe this verse isn’t talking about us seeing God but rather that if we don’t act in a holy manner, no one will see God in our lives. ( we are a living epistle )
That would certainly be a true statement that is not only consistent with Hebrews 12:14 but leads perfectly into Hebrews 12:15.
Our actions don’t earn the grace of God. That wouldn’t be grace (Romans 11:6). Therefore, we don’t fall from grace by not being holy enough to earn it. Galatians 5:4 speaks of falling from grace by putting faith in our works instead of having our faith firmly placed in Christ and what He did for us. So, the way people “fail of the grace of God” is through legalism.
Hebrews 12:15 - Notice that bitterness in our lives doesn’t just hurt or poison us but many people. Again the context of this verse shows that we are supposed to walk in a manner that influences others in a positive way. If we get bitter, that bitterness will affect others.
Works-based salvationsists have used this verse to beat people with for years as we know we are sanctified forever in our inner man now and we do need to work out what is already in us in Christ in our outward behavior.
This has nothing to do with " becoming un-born as a child of God" and not seeing the Lord ourselves and thus losing the free gift He gave us in Christ's finished work.
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pursue peace with all people. We should strive to do this, Knowing our message will cause war.. And understand, if they get mad and hate us, it is not us they hate it is God.
Holiness,, This is how we are lights to the world. When they see us being set apart in our actions, and not in a selfish or judgmental way (religion) This is how they see God..
The New Testament did not become into effect until after the death of the testator, Jesus Christ(Hebrews 9:16-17). The Lord Jesus revealed His plan and doctrine for the New Testament church through an abundant of revelations to the Apostle Paul. Paul's thirteen epistles establishes matters of salvation and the Christian walk. As you follow Paul, you are following Jesus Christ and what He revealed to Paul.
Hello Mimi84,
This is just another false teaching, as Paul received revelations and visions directly from the Lord. Paul also had the gift of healing, resurrected the dead, performed miracles, and the like. Paul was also caught up to heaven were he received revelations. The only way that he could perform those events and receive those things is through the power of God, in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Prior to Paul's conversion, he was persecuting the church and therefore persecuting the Lord. After his conversion, he became one of the same people that he was persecuting. No one in their right mind would go from being the persecutor to being the one being persecuted. It demonstrates that God intervened in Paul's life, as described when he was on the road to Damascus.
What Paul taught, is what the Lord taught him to teach. The words that we read in the letters that Paul wrote are the words of the Lord. There is only one gospel, not many.
There is a group out there that proclaim that Paul was a false apostle and a liar and do so to their own destruction. For Peter recognized Paul's writing's as wisdom from God and as scripture, as demonstrated below:
"Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
I would avoid anyone who is teaching that there is division between what the Lord is teaching vs. the apostles, for .......
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."
This is just another false teaching, as Paul received revelations and visions directly from the Lord. Paul also had the gift of healing, resurrected the dead, performed miracles, and the like. Paul was also caught up to heaven were he received revelations. The only way that he could perform those events and receive those things is through the power of God, in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Prior to Paul's conversion, he was persecuting the church and therefore persecuting the Lord. After his conversion, he became one of the same people that he was persecuting. No one in their right mind would go from being the persecutor to being the one being persecuted. It demonstrates that God intervened in Paul's life, as described when he was on the road to Damascus.
What Paul taught, is what the Lord taught him to teach. The words that we read in the letters that Paul wrote are the words of the Lord. There is only one gospel, not many.
There is a group out there that proclaim that Paul was a false apostle and a liar and do so to their own destruction. For Peter recognized Paul's writing's as wisdom from God and as scripture, as demonstrated below:
"Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
I would avoid anyone who is teaching that there is division between what the Lord is teaching vs. the apostles, for .......
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."
The Holy Spirit does this work in us.
He focuses, not on the outside that men can see, but on the inside, because He looks at the heart.
He points out to us where we err in our heart.
Like...we don't murder someone physically, but we have hidden our anger at them inside, which Jesus said is murder.
And when we see and understand what He shows us, we pray for Him to give us a clean heart on the matter.
And He does.
This is His work in us.
He wants truth in our inward parts. Not excuses (fig leaves) to cover what we've done with justifications.
He focuses, not on the outside that men can see, but on the inside, because He looks at the heart.
He points out to us where we err in our heart.
Like...we don't murder someone physically, but we have hidden our anger at them inside, which Jesus said is murder.
And when we see and understand what He shows us, we pray for Him to give us a clean heart on the matter.
And He does.
This is His work in us.
He wants truth in our inward parts. Not excuses (fig leaves) to cover what we've done with justifications.
That is a great question!
Here is a link to where this is answered. I like to use this site from time to time because it has at the bottom of the article - a place where people have asked questions and I learn a lot from that area as well as from some articles.
Let me know what you think.
How to Read Your Bible Without Getting Confused. How to rightly divide the scriptures through what Jesus did for us on the cross and resurrection.
Click on this link below.
https://escapetoreality.org/2010/03...-to-read-your-bible-without-getting-confused/
Here is a link to where this is answered. I like to use this site from time to time because it has at the bottom of the article - a place where people have asked questions and I learn a lot from that area as well as from some articles.
Let me know what you think.
How to Read Your Bible Without Getting Confused. How to rightly divide the scriptures through what Jesus did for us on the cross and resurrection.
Click on this link below.
https://escapetoreality.org/2010/03...-to-read-your-bible-without-getting-confused/