IS THIS THE GOSPEL???

[trofimus]

The TRUE Gospel:

OK, lets see...

You don’t have a sin nature.

Not true.

You have a free will,

Not true.

God created you good to glorify Him. The knowledge of God is in us all. Rom 1:20.

Partly true.

You rebelled and willfully chose to serve Satan.

Mostly not true.

Jesus died to ransom you from Satan because when you sinned, you sold your soul to the devil, and became the devil's property, and needed to be bought back.

Mostly true.

 

[Dino246]

Hmmm... no response from the OP. It has been only four hours, but I call troll. :/

 

[notmyown]

Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord or of me His prisoner, but join with me in suffering for the gospel according to the power of God,
who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity,
but now has been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Christ Jesus, who abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel (2 Tim 1:8-10)

 

[Chester]

Your gospel is false.. And by saying that people who preach the truth are childeren of satan you have declared the Holy Spirit that is guiding them to be satan and thus you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit..

Accusing someone of having blasphemed the Holy Spirit is serious - there is no forgiveness for that sin . . . ?

Are you sure?

Not saying you have to agree - but your rebuttal seems quite strong. . . !

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

I agree chester.
We have to learn to dialogue by meeting someone where they currently are without beating them up.
A man said something like...no one was ever persuaded of Gods' love for them through harshness...

 

[LaurenTM]

Many preach Holiness, but I have yet to hear anyone preaching these frightening truths from the Word of God.

lovely

another stinging rebuke from someone who sees condemnation and judgement as the modus operandi for the Word

so really, I am left with the question...

is THIS the gospel?

 

[LaurenTM]

Hmmm... no response from the OP. It has been only four hours, but I call troll. :/

either that or isit has a daughter

 

[LaurenTM]

Hmmm... no response from the OP. It has been only four hours, but I call troll. :/

either that or isit has a daughter

who had been teaching this young woman? saved in 2015 apparently to a gospel of condemnation and judgement

 

[Grace777x70]

either that or isit has a daughter

I thought the exact same thing...only not a daughter but using a different name and country.

 

[LaurenTM]

I thought the exact same thing...only not a daughter but using a different name and country.

great minds think alike and smaller minds watch LOL!

this one recently joined...when someone joins for the purpose of preaching condemnation, they have pretty much lost me from the get go

so tiresome..........

 

[dcontroversal]

The FALSE Gospel being preached is BACKWARDS.
The False Gospel:
You get saved “in sin”, and sanctification is lifelong, but yet, the sin never stops, and you don't say you are going to sin your whole life you are a liar. Or you need Jesus to enter in to you, and make you stop sinning, or you can sin after becoming born again, and not enough room to mention all the other false doctrines, They come in many forms, and fancy names, “gradual sanctification”, “Calvinism”.


All that is a lie. What you Pastor won’t tell you is that - he that commits sin NOT a child of God, but a CHILD OF THE DEVIL.


The narrow way, the terrifying soul purging truths.
If you HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD, you do not know Him, and are under a false Gospel.


The TRUE Gospel: You don’t have a sin nature. You have a free will, God created you good to glorify Him. The knowledge of God is in us all. Rom 1:20. You rebelled and willfully chose to serve Satan. Jesus died to ransom you from Satan because when you sinned, you sold your sold to the devil, and became the devil's property, and needed to be bought back.


SEEK God diligently, Hear, you MUST HEAR and STOP arguing with the Word of God, and HEAR that for the sins you are committing right now, you are a child of the devil FEAR GOD!!! TREMBLE in fear, fall on your face in FEAR, Repent and turn from sin in godly sorrow broken hearted, Obey from the heart in broken humility proving faith by deeds worthy of repentance. If you have stolen, give back. Crucify your flesh, (which is the carnal mind) you must die. Be Baptized. A DEAD MAN goes into the water, The Holy Spirit enters a clean vessel and fellowship is restored a new creature is born fit for the Master’s use. Dead men don’t sin. The sin STOPS in repentance. If you are still living in sin, you are NOT Born Again and have been lied to. The Holy Spirit does not enter into an unclean vessel.
To be born again, the old man must die. To rebel again after this is fatal.
Man cannot crucify Jesus over and over, like they did with animals.
Salvation is a one-time gift, once per person. You cannot sin, repent, sin, repent, till the day you die.
This is false. There will be no repenting in the Kingdom of God.
What you are on the day of your death, is who you will be in eternity, and you will not be allowed in.
No criminals will be allowed in the Kingdom.


Salvation is offered for past sins, old sin.


Many preach Holiness, but I have yet to hear anyone preaching these frightening truths from the Word of God.


These are the frightening truths. Until a person comes to these truths, there is no fear of God,
And without the FEAR OF GOD, they have never met God.
The Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. If you have no fear of God, you have not yet begun.
It is by the FEAR of God, men depart from iniquity. PERMANENTLY.
There is no pride in fear. In fear of God, a person can love others, because they will see everyone
Better than themselves. True Biblical humility.
It is by this soul purging fear, fall on your face as dead fear of God that men depart from sin.
And it is only by walking in the FEAR of God, they keep from sin.


Spend the time of your sojourning here in fear.
FEAR GOD, come to the knowledge of the truth today.


Satan was a liar. YOU WILL surely die.
The sin stops FIRST, or God does not hear your prayers.
The reason men sin is because they LOVE TO.

John, who was the disciple Jesus Loved, and the same one who wrote almost 20% of the New Testament said....

If WE say that WE have NO SIN, WE are deceived and the truth is NOT IN US!

He said that as a SAVED, IMMERSED DISCIPLE and APOSTLE of GOD......

THOSE who say that a believer does not SIN, never SINS or is without SIN is the one who is deceived and LACKING TRUTH.

End of story!

P.S.--> I suggest you take your own advice highlighted above.

 

[dcontroversal]

lovely

another stinging rebuke from someone who sees condemnation and judgement as the modus operandi for the Word

so really, I am left with the question...

is THIS the gospel?

Not hardly.....or the gospel of SATAN.......not of GOD for sure!

 

[dcontroversal]

Only 20 years old and already an active stumbling block against God's magnificent grace. Where do you people come from?

Oh the answers that would fit this question.........highly tempted, but will spare

 

[Magenta]

Accusing someone of having blasphemed the Holy Spirit is serious - there is no forgiveness for that sin . . . ?

Are you sure?

Not saying you have to agree - but your rebuttal seems quite strong. . . !

Is Paul forgiven? He blasphemed. 1 Tim 1:13

Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent
man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief.

 

[Grace777x70]

great minds think alike and smaller minds watch LOL!

this one recently joined...when someone joins for the purpose of preaching condemnation, they have pretty much lost me from the get go

so tiresome..........

I hear ya' the thing is - there is sprinkled in it here and there is some truth but the "application" of it is way off. It's good thing we are well trained in this type now though...

 

[LaurenTM]

I hear ya' the thing is - there is sprinkled in it here and there is some truth but the "application" of it is way off. It's good thing we are well trained in this type now though...

lies with 'some truth' = the skin of the truth stuffed with a lie (as someone I used to know was given to say)

oh yes...it's always 'training day' here and sometimes just as dangerous...

 

[samuel23]

Audreaya: You are correct in some of what you say(not all). We are not saved "in sin" we are saved by being taken out of sin. Also, we should never have the attitude that we are going to sin(for then we will). Ok, the bible says that he that practices sin is of the devil, it also says that whoever says that they do not sin is a liar. So a Christian cannot practice sin, however a Christian can find that God is convicting them of something they said or did(sin) and they need to repent of that and God will forgive them. OK, we need to actually fear God, true. We do not have a sin nature, true, we have a flesh nature that tends to sin. God created us good, true. The Holy Spirit does not enter an unclean vessel, true. Salvation is offered for past sins,true, however Christians were told that if they sinned they had an advocate with the Father(Jesus), so a Christian can sin and be forgiven. You said,a Christian cannot sin, and repent and sin and repent, their whole life...this is where you miss it, if a Christian truly repents and asks for forgiveness in Jesus name...then that person will be forgiven a thousand times a thousand...because Jesus died for that purpose. You are correct in that Christians do not fear God as they should, however all Christians sin at times, but if we are in the faith of Christ the blood of Christ covers our sin. Your tone seems to be that many walk in open sin without fear of God while claiming Heaven as their home...in that you are correct.

 

[prove-all]

The good news message of the coming Kingdom of God—it is this world’s only sure hope.
It’s why true Christians, when they pray, begin with this earnest, heartfelt petition:

Thy Kingdom come!

 

[zone]

/// You rebelled and willfully chose to serve Satan. Jesus died to ransom you from Satan because when you sinned, you sold your sold to the devil, and became the devil's property, and needed to be bought back.
.

how many times must one be bought back?
and how does that work?

 

[Ariel82]

Satan has no legal rights. He is a thief and a bully.

God did not give us a spirit of fear but of love, power and a sound mind.