IS THIS THE GOSPEL???

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Audreaya

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The FALSE Gospel being preached is BACKWARDS.
The False Gospel:
You get saved “in sin”, and sanctification is lifelong, but yet, the sin never stops, and you don't say you are going to sin your whole life you are a liar. Or you need Jesus to enter in to you, and make you stop sinning, or you can sin after becoming born again, and not enough room to mention all the other false doctrines, They come in many forms, and fancy names, “gradual sanctification”, “Calvinism”.


All that is a lie. What you Pastor won’t tell you is that - he that commits sin NOT a child of God, but a CHILD OF THE DEVIL.


The narrow way, the terrifying soul purging truths.
If you HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD, you do not know Him, and are under a false Gospel.


The TRUE Gospel: You don’t have a sin nature. You have a free will, God created you good to glorify Him. The knowledge of God is in us all. Rom 1:20. You rebelled and willfully chose to serve Satan. Jesus died to ransom you from Satan because when you sinned, you sold your sold to the devil, and became the devil's property, and needed to be bought back.


SEEK God diligently, Hear, you MUST HEAR and STOP arguing with the Word of God, and HEAR that for the sins you are committing right now, you are a child of the devil FEAR GOD!!! TREMBLE in fear, fall on your face in FEAR, Repent and turn from sin in godly sorrow broken hearted, Obey from the heart in broken humility proving faith by deeds worthy of repentance. If you have stolen, give back. Crucify your flesh, (which is the carnal mind) you must die. Be Baptized. A DEAD MAN goes into the water, The Holy Spirit enters a clean vessel and fellowship is restored a new creature is born fit for the Master’s use. Dead men don’t sin. The sin STOPS in repentance. If you are still living in sin, you are NOT Born Again and have been lied to. The Holy Spirit does not enter into an unclean vessel.
To be born again, the old man must die. To rebel again after this is fatal.
Man cannot crucify Jesus over and over, like they did with animals.
Salvation is a one-time gift, once per person. You cannot sin, repent, sin, repent, till the day you die.
This is false. There will be no repenting in the Kingdom of God.
What you are on the day of your death, is who you will be in eternity, and you will not be allowed in.
No criminals will be allowed in the Kingdom.


Salvation is offered for past sins, old sin.


Many preach Holiness, but I have yet to hear anyone preaching these frightening truths from the Word of God.


These are the frightening truths. Until a person comes to these truths, there is no fear of God,
And without the FEAR OF GOD, they have never met God.
The Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. If you have no fear of God, you have not yet begun.
It is by the FEAR of God, men depart from iniquity. PERMANENTLY.
There is no pride in fear. In fear of God, a person can love others, because they will see everyone
Better than themselves. True Biblical humility.
It is by this soul purging fear, fall on your face as dead fear of God that men depart from sin.
And it is only by walking in the FEAR of God, they keep from sin.


Spend the time of your sojourning here in fear.
FEAR GOD, come to the knowledge of the truth today.


Satan was a liar. YOU WILL surely die.
The sin stops FIRST, or God does not hear your prayers.
The reason men sin is because they LOVE TO.
 
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#2
The FALSE Gospel being preached is BACKWARDS.
The False Gospel:
You get saved “in sin”, and sanctification is lifelong, but yet, the sin never stops, and you don't say you are going to sin your whole life you are a liar. Or you need Jesus to enter in to you, and make you stop sinning, or you can sin after becoming born again, and not enough room to mention all the other false doctrines, They come in many forms, and fancy names, “gradual sanctification”, “Calvinism”.


All that is a lie. What you Pastor won’t tell you is that - he that commits sin NOT a child of God, but a CHILD OF THE DEVIL.


The narrow way, the terrifying soul purging truths.
If you HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD, you do not know Him, and are under a false Gospel.


The TRUE Gospel: You don’t have a sin nature. You have a free will, God created you good to glorify Him. The knowledge of God is in us all. Rom 1:20. You rebelled and willfully chose to serve Satan. Jesus died to ransom you from Satan because when you sinned, you sold your sold to the devil, and became the devil's property, and needed to be bought back.


SEEK God diligently, Hear, you MUST HEAR and STOP arguing with the Word of God, and HEAR that for the sins you are committing right now, you are a child of the devil FEAR GOD!!! TREMBLE in fear, fall on your face in FEAR, Repent and turn from sin in godly sorrow broken hearted, Obey from the heart in broken humility proving faith by deeds worthy of repentance. If you have stolen, give back. Crucify your flesh, (which is the carnal mind) you must die. Be Baptized. A DEAD MAN goes into the water, The Holy Spirit enters a clean vessel and fellowship is restored a new creature is born fit for the Master’s use. Dead men don’t sin. The sin STOPS in repentance. If you are still living in sin, you are NOT Born Again and have been lied to. The Holy Spirit does not enter into an unclean vessel.
To be born again, the old man must die. To rebel again after this is fatal.
Man cannot crucify Jesus over and over, like they did with animals.
Salvation is a one-time gift, once per person. You cannot sin, repent, sin, repent, till the day you die.
This is false. There will be no repenting in the Kingdom of God.
What you are on the day of your death, is who you will be in eternity, and you will not be allowed in.
No criminals will be allowed in the Kingdom.


Salvation is offered for past sins, old sin.


Many preach Holiness, but I have yet to hear anyone preaching these frightening truths from the Word of God.


These are the frightening truths. Until a person comes to these truths, there is no fear of God,
And without the FEAR OF GOD, they have never met God.
The Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. If you have no fear of God, you have not yet begun.
It is by the FEAR of God, men depart from iniquity. PERMANENTLY.
There is no pride in fear. In fear of God, a person can love others, because they will see everyone
Better than themselves. True Biblical humility.
It is by this soul purging fear, fall on your face as dead fear of God that men depart from sin.
And it is only by walking in the FEAR of God, they keep from sin.


Spend the time of your sojourning here in fear.
FEAR GOD, come to the knowledge of the truth today.


Satan was a liar. YOU WILL surely die.
The sin stops FIRST, or God does not hear your prayers.
The reason men sin is because they LOVE TO.
But because of his great love for us, God who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions, it is by grace you have been saved
Eph2:5

You definitely get saved in sin, but then you are called to live an ever more holy life. You are a work in progress all your christian life. I've never met any christian who claims to be perfect in the flesh.
I would say if you are required to perfectly obey the law( not sin) before you can be saved, the NT gives a false gospel message.

Indeed, the old covenant would be preferable to such a version of the new one
 
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BenFTW

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God is not a tyrant, and He runs no tyranny. Our loyalty is not based in fear, but love. Our service is one of gratitude, and thanksgiving. We work because we are saved unto good works and it is our good pleasure to do these works. Such works come from a place of compassion. Notice there is a surrounding theme of love, and what does scripture say of fear and love? There is no fear in love.

Yes, there is a healthy fear of God, one that is reverential and awe inspiring. God's word says that He is an all consuming fire. That is scary, but I know that such flames are not towards me for I am in Christ, covered by the blood of the Lamb. My sins paid for, in full at the cross of Calvary. God is mighty, and such fear is a respect of His strength, but along the same lines I rejoice in that fear. Why? He is not against me, but is for me.

I will also add that your doctrine of fear leading to repentance is not the Gospel. God's word says that it is God's goodness that leads men to repentance. His goodness. His generosity and love, that He extends to humanity in His grace through Jesus Christ. This is the truth. He seeks not to condemn the world but save it. As for believers and their sin? Did not Jesus Christ die on the cross and pay for it? Did you hear license? I didn't. I heard liberty. Liberty onto what end? Righteousness.
 
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Only 20 years old and already an active stumbling block against God's magnificent grace. Where do you people come from?
 
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#5
The FALSE Gospel being preached is BACKWARDS.
The False Gospel:
You get saved “in sin”, and sanctification is lifelong, but yet, the sin never stops, and you don't say you are going to sin your whole life you are a liar. Or you need Jesus to enter in to you, and make you stop sinning, or you can sin after becoming born again, and not enough room to mention all the other false doctrines, They come in many forms, and fancy names, “gradual sanctification”, “Calvinism”.


All that is a lie. What you Pastor won’t tell you is that - he that commits sin NOT a child of God, but a CHILD OF THE DEVIL.


The narrow way, the terrifying soul purging truths.
If you HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD, you do not know Him, and are under a false Gospel.


The TRUE Gospel: You don’t have a sin nature. You have a free will, God created you good to glorify Him. The knowledge of God is in us all. Rom 1:20. You rebelled and willfully chose to serve Satan. Jesus died to ransom you from Satan because when you sinned, you sold your sold to the devil, and became the devil's property, and needed to be bought back.


SEEK God diligently, Hear, you MUST HEAR and STOP arguing with the Word of God, and HEAR that for the sins you are committing right now, you are a child of the devil FEAR GOD!!! TREMBLE in fear, fall on your face in FEAR, Repent and turn from sin in godly sorrow broken hearted, Obey from the heart in broken humility proving faith by deeds worthy of repentance. If you have stolen, give back. Crucify your flesh, (which is the carnal mind) you must die. Be Baptized. A DEAD MAN goes into the water, The Holy Spirit enters a clean vessel and fellowship is restored a new creature is born fit for the Master’s use. Dead men don’t sin. The sin STOPS in repentance. If you are still living in sin, you are NOT Born Again and have been lied to. The Holy Spirit does not enter into an unclean vessel.
To be born again, the old man must die. To rebel again after this is fatal.
Man cannot crucify Jesus over and over, like they did with animals.
Salvation is a one-time gift, once per person. You cannot sin, repent, sin, repent, till the day you die.
This is false. There will be no repenting in the Kingdom of God.
What you are on the day of your death, is who you will be in eternity, and you will not be allowed in.
No criminals will be allowed in the Kingdom.


Salvation is offered for past sins, old sin.


Many preach Holiness, but I have yet to hear anyone preaching these frightening truths from the Word of God.


These are the frightening truths. Until a person comes to these truths, there is no fear of God,
And without the FEAR OF GOD, they have never met God.
The Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. If you have no fear of God, you have not yet begun.
It is by the FEAR of God, men depart from iniquity. PERMANENTLY.
There is no pride in fear. In fear of God, a person can love others, because they will see everyone
Better than themselves. True Biblical humility.
It is by this soul purging fear, fall on your face as dead fear of God that men depart from sin.
And it is only by walking in the FEAR of God, they keep from sin.


Spend the time of your sojourning here in fear.
FEAR GOD, come to the knowledge of the truth today.


Satan was a liar. YOU WILL surely die.
The sin stops FIRST, or God does not hear your prayers.
The reason men sin is because they LOVE TO.
This sentence is enough to give one pause and raise blazing fiery red flags about your theory.

The Bible speaks of the sinful flesh pretty much throughout.

If you ignore sin nature, what need is there to be saved and made a new creation, or to "crucify the flesh" and walk in the spirit, or to repent, etc.?

You speak of iniquity and the flesh, so I just don't see why you would deny people having a sin nature, or how that would fit with the Gospel.
 
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JustWhoIAm

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God is not a tyrant, and He runs no tyranny. Our loyalty is not based in fear, but love. Our service is one of gratitude, and thanksgiving. We work because we are saved unto good works and it is our good pleasure to do these works. Such works come from a place of compassion. Notice there is a surrounding theme of love, and what does scripture say of fear and love? There is no fear in love.

Yes, there is a healthy fear of God, one that is reverential and awe inspiring. God's word says that He is an all consuming fire. That is scary, but I know that such flames are not towards me for I am in Christ, covered by the blood of the Lamb. My sins paid for, in full at the cross of Calvary. God is mighty, and such fear is a respect of His strength, but along the same lines I rejoice in that fear. Why? He is not against me, but is for me.

I will also add that your doctrine of fear leading to repentance is not the Gospel. God's word says that it is God's goodness that leads men to repentance. His goodness. His generosity and love, that He extends to humanity in His grace through Jesus Christ. This is the truth. He seeks not to condemn the world but save it. As for believers and their sin? Did not Jesus Christ die on the cross and pay for it? Did you hear license? I didn't. I heard liberty. Liberty onto what end? Righteousness.
Personally, I agree but feel this point deserves clarification.

The laws in the time of Moses that were given were somewhat harsh, it would seem to some, but when you are raising kids you need to give them proper discipline or it is going to be rough for them to have healthy habits later.

"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom."

His judgement is based in love, like a good Dad.

Not disagreeing. Pointing something out.
 
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JustWhoIAm

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If we did not need atonement for sins to come before the Father justified then the sacrifice Christ made was invalid.

But! Look at endtimes prophecy, which happens under the new covenant. If we did not need judgement then the judge would not need to come.

IMHO the reality in this debate is in the middle somewhere.
 

Ahwatukee

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I would have to greatly disagree with you Audreya!

The False Gospel: You get saved “in sin”, and sanctification is lifelong,


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But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Sanctification definition:

Strong's Concordance
hagiasmos: consecration, sanctification
Original Word: ἁγιασμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: hagiasmos
Phonetic Spelling: (hag-ee-as-mos')
Short Definition: sanctification, holiness
Definition: the process of making or becoming holy, set apart, sanctification, holiness, consecration.

HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 38 hagiasmós (a masculine noun derived from 40 /hágios, "holy") –sanctification (the process of advancing in holiness); use of the believer being progressively transformed by the Lord into His likeness (similarity of nature). See 40 /hagios ("holy").

So, as you can see from the definition of the word, sanctification is indeed the process of being made holy. And it is a life long process, as we are continually being transformed into the likeness of Christ. Anyone who says that they immediately stopped sinning the moment they received Christ or that they no longer commit any sins, is a liar and the truth is not in them.

"If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us."

The TRUE Gospel: You don’t have a sin nature.


When a believer comes to Christ, they do not magically lose their sinful nature. As believers go from faith to faith, the old nature is being displaced by the new nature in Christ. As previously demonstrated by the definition of the word "sanctification," believers are being transformed into the image of Christ.

As an example, look at the believer in the church of Corinth, who was sleeping with his stepmother. Paul rebuked them because they were proud of themselves instead of mourning. Paul told them to expel the immoral brother and hand him over to Satan for the destruction of the sinful nature.

Another example is the fact that Jesus had John write letters to the seven churches, rebuking five of them with the command to repent. That fact the Jesus warned them to repent would demonstrate that they had sinned.

If a believer never sinned again after coming to Christ, then the following scripture would make no sense "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleans us of all unrighteousness."

When we receive Christ, we are reconciled to God and credited with righteousness, i.e. Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer. God sees us as perfect, though we are still sinners.

 
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JustWhoIAm

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I would have to greatly disagree with you Audreya!



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But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Sanctification definition:

Strong's Concordance
hagiasmos: consecration, sanctification
Original Word: ἁγιασμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: hagiasmos
Phonetic Spelling: (hag-ee-as-mos')
Short Definition: sanctification, holiness
Definition: the process of making or becoming holy, set apart, sanctification, holiness, consecration.

HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 38 hagiasmós (a masculine noun derived from 40 /hágios, "holy") –sanctification (the process of advancing in holiness); use of the believer being progressively transformed by the Lord into His likeness (similarity of nature). See 40 /hagios ("holy").

So, as you can see from the definition of the word, sanctification is indeed the process of being made holy. And it is a life long process, as we are continually being transformed into the likeness of Christ. Anyone who says that they immediately stopped sinning the moment they received Christ or that they no longer commit any sins, is a liar and the truth is not in them.

"If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us."



When a believer comes to Christ, they do not magically lose their sinful nature. As believers go from faith to faith, the old nature is being displaced by the new nature in Christ. As previously demonstrated by the definition of the word "sanctification," believers are being transformed into the image of Christ.

As an example, look at the believer in the church of Corinth, who was sleeping with his stepmother. Paul rebuked them because they were proud of themselves instead of mourning. Paul told them to expel the immoral brother and hand him over to Satan for the destruction of the sinful nature.

Another example is the fact that Jesus had John write letters to the seven churches, rebuking five of them with the command to repent. That fact the Jesus warned them to repent would demonstrate that they had sinned.

If a believer never sinned again after coming to Christ, then the following scripture would make no sense "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleans us of all unrighteousness."

When we receive Christ, we are reconciled to God and credited with righteousness, i.e. Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer. God sees us as perfect, though we are still sinners.

We're still gonna suffer the consequences of our actions...
 

BenFTW

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We're still gonna suffer the consequences of our actions...
Generally, yes but sometimes God intervenes in His mercy. Our actions do have consequences but in listening to testimonies you'll notice that oftentimes people didn't end up with the punishment they should'be been dealt and things just work in their favor. So, as a general rule, we can say people will suffer the consequences of their actions, but we must also realize that God is merciful.
 

Ahwatukee

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We're still gonna suffer the consequences of our actions...
Hello JustWhoIam,

When we stand before the Bema seat of Christ, we will be judged by our works, not for sin, which Christ has already paid for. We will receive rewards for our good works or suffer loss of rewards. It is those that die without Christ that will be held accountable for all sin at the great white throne judgement.
 

BenFTW

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When we stand before the Bema seat of Christ, we will be judged by our works, not for sin, which Christ has already paid for. We will receive rewards for our good works or suffer loss of rewards. It is those that die without Christ that will be held accountable for all sin at the great white throne judgement.
1 Corinthians 3:13-15 King James Version (KJV)

13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

14
If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.


15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
 
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JustWhoIAm

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Hello JustWhoIam,

When we stand before the Bema seat of Christ, we will be judged by our works, not for sin, which Christ has already paid for. We will receive rewards for our good works or suffer loss of rewards. It is those that die without Christ that will be held accountable for all sin at the great white throne judgement.
"You WHAT? You took the money I gave you and you hid it in the ground? Get out of here!"

Then again, if someone sins there are bound to be consequences for it in this life.
 
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Ahwatukee

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1 Corinthians 3:13-15 King James Version (KJV)

13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

14
If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.


15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Exactly BenFTW! And I would add the following:

"For we must all appear before the judgment (Bema) seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
 
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JustWhoIAm

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#15
The TRUE Gospel: You don’t have a sin nature.
"When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned."

-Romans 5:12

It's not an excuse, however, you're right.

"Well then, should we keep on sinning so that God can show us more and more of his wonderful grace? Of course not! Since we have died to sin, how can we continue to live in it? Or have you forgotten that when we were joined with Christ Jesus in baptism, we joined him in his death? For we died and were buried with Christ by baptism. And just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father, now we also may live new lives."

-Romans 6:1-4
 

Adstar

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#16
The FALSE Gospel being preached is BACKWARDS.
The False Gospel:
You get saved “in sin”, and sanctification is lifelong, but yet, the sin never stops, and you don't say you are going to sin your whole life you are a liar. Or you need Jesus to enter in to you, and make you stop sinning, or you can sin after becoming born again, and not enough room to mention all the other false doctrines, They come in many forms, and fancy names, “gradual sanctification”, “Calvinism”.


All that is a lie. What you Pastor won’t tell you is that - he that commits sin NOT a child of God, but a CHILD OF THE DEVIL.


The narrow way, the terrifying soul purging truths.
If you HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD, you do not know Him, and are under a false Gospel.


The TRUE Gospel: You don’t have a sin nature. You have a free will, God created you good to glorify Him. The knowledge of God is in us all. Rom 1:20. You rebelled and willfully chose to serve Satan. Jesus died to ransom you from Satan because when you sinned, you sold your sold to the devil, and became the devil's property, and needed to be bought back.


SEEK God diligently, Hear, you MUST HEAR and STOP arguing with the Word of God, and HEAR that for the sins you are committing right now, you are a child of the devil FEAR GOD!!! TREMBLE in fear, fall on your face in FEAR, Repent and turn from sin in godly sorrow broken hearted, Obey from the heart in broken humility proving faith by deeds worthy of repentance. If you have stolen, give back. Crucify your flesh, (which is the carnal mind) you must die. Be Baptized. A DEAD MAN goes into the water, The Holy Spirit enters a clean vessel and fellowship is restored a new creature is born fit for the Master’s use. Dead men don’t sin. The sin STOPS in repentance. If you are still living in sin, you are NOT Born Again and have been lied to. The Holy Spirit does not enter into an unclean vessel.
To be born again, the old man must die. To rebel again after this is fatal.
Man cannot crucify Jesus over and over, like they did with animals.
Salvation is a one-time gift, once per person. You cannot sin, repent, sin, repent, till the day you die.
This is false. There will be no repenting in the Kingdom of God.
What you are on the day of your death, is who you will be in eternity, and you will not be allowed in.
No criminals will be allowed in the Kingdom.


Salvation is offered for past sins, old sin.


Many preach Holiness, but I have yet to hear anyone preaching these frightening truths from the Word of God.


These are the frightening truths. Until a person comes to these truths, there is no fear of God,
And without the FEAR OF GOD, they have never met God.
The Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. If you have no fear of God, you have not yet begun.
It is by the FEAR of God, men depart from iniquity. PERMANENTLY.
There is no pride in fear. In fear of God, a person can love others, because they will see everyone
Better than themselves. True Biblical humility.
It is by this soul purging fear, fall on your face as dead fear of God that men depart from sin.
And it is only by walking in the FEAR of God, they keep from sin.


Spend the time of your sojourning here in fear.
FEAR GOD, come to the knowledge of the truth today.


Satan was a liar. YOU WILL surely die.
The sin stops FIRST, or God does not hear your prayers.
The reason men sin is because they LOVE TO.
Your gospel is false.. And by saying that people who preach the truth are childeren of satan you have declared the Holy Spirit that is guiding them to be satan and thus you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit..
 
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The FALSE Gospel being preached is BACKWARDS.
The False Gospel:
You get saved “in sin”, and sanctification is lifelong, but yet, the sin never stops, and you don't say you are going to sin your whole life you are a liar. Or you need Jesus to enter in to you, and make you stop sinning, or you can sin after becoming born again, and not enough room to mention all the other false doctrines, They come in many forms, and fancy names, “gradual sanctification”, “Calvinism”.


All that is a lie. What you Pastor won’t tell you is that - he that commits sin NOT a child of God, but a CHILD OF THE DEVIL.


The narrow way, the terrifying soul purging truths.
If you HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD, you do not know Him, and are under a false Gospel.


The TRUE Gospel: You don’t have a sin nature. You have a free will, God created you good to glorify Him. The knowledge of God is in us all. Rom 1:20. You rebelled and willfully chose to serve Satan. Jesus died to ransom you from Satan because when you sinned, you sold your sold to the devil, and became the devil's property, and needed to be bought back.


SEEK God diligently, Hear, you MUST HEAR and STOP arguing with the Word of God, and HEAR that for the sins you are committing right now, you are a child of the devil FEAR GOD!!! TREMBLE in fear, fall on your face in FEAR, Repent and turn from sin in godly sorrow broken hearted, Obey from the heart in broken humility proving faith by deeds worthy of repentance. If you have stolen, give back. Crucify your flesh, (which is the carnal mind) you must die. Be Baptized. A DEAD MAN goes into the water, The Holy Spirit enters a clean vessel and fellowship is restored a new creature is born fit for the Master’s use. Dead men don’t sin. The sin STOPS in repentance. If you are still living in sin, you are NOT Born Again and have been lied to. The Holy Spirit does not enter into an unclean vessel.
To be born again, the old man must die. To rebel again after this is fatal.
Man cannot crucify Jesus over and over, like they did with animals.
Salvation is a one-time gift, once per person. You cannot sin, repent, sin, repent, till the day you die.
This is false. There will be no repenting in the Kingdom of God.
What you are on the day of your death, is who you will be in eternity, and you will not be allowed in.
No criminals will be allowed in the Kingdom.


Salvation is offered for past sins, old sin.


Many preach Holiness, but I have yet to hear anyone preaching these frightening truths from the Word of God.


These are the frightening truths. Until a person comes to these truths, there is no fear of God,
And without the FEAR OF GOD, they have never met God.
The Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. If you have no fear of God, you have not yet begun.
It is by the FEAR of God, men depart from iniquity. PERMANENTLY.
There is no pride in fear. In fear of God, a person can love others, because they will see everyone
Better than themselves. True Biblical humility.
It is by this soul purging fear, fall on your face as dead fear of God that men depart from sin.
And it is only by walking in the FEAR of God, they keep from sin.


Spend the time of your sojourning here in fear.
FEAR GOD, come to the knowledge of the truth today.


Satan was a liar. YOU WILL surely die.
The sin stops FIRST, or God does not hear your prayers.
The reason men sin is because they LOVE TO.
Good morning!
I'd like to hear more about what you mean when you say that sanctification isn't continual and growing. :)
To one of the churches in Rev Jesus said, and I see your constant improvement in these things. (Have to look that up...)
And Paul talked about growing in our knowledge of God through the Holy Spirits work in us...

So could you explain further your thought that sanctification and knowledge and renewing of our minds is not growing holiness?
 
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There is something that I agree with in your first paragraph, but you lit it up starkly by the way you phrased your 1st paragraph. That paragraph begins as a muddle because...we definitely have something muddled! But the way you phrased it actually clearly shows the muddle. :)
 
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The TRUE Gospel: You don’t have a sin nature. You have a free will, God created you good to glorify Him. The knowledge of God is in us all. Rom 1:20. You rebelled and willfully chose to serve Satan. Jesus died to ransom you from Satan because when you sinned, you sold your sold to the devil, and became the devil's property, and needed to be bought back.
In theory this all sounds good. The real problem is our desires, our passions, our programming,
whether from being human or our environment.

Do you choose to sleep, to breath, to be hungry, to drink? No, but you can vary the when and where.
Our emotional balances equally exist, and repressed and dealt with badly cause us to behave in a way
we do not control. Compulsive behaviour, sudden outbursts, building up feelings of any sort.

So it is easy to create the image in our head of what we would like to be, but the reality is often
far from this.

Now different groups have developed a language to handle these issues and describe them.
If you want to dismiss them out of hand, you are not respecting the hard truth, we cannot
ignore them without being deluded. And this is why cc exists to explore this journey, to seek God,
to learn from the trials and problems the disciples had and we have and together walk with Christ.

It can take a lifetime for some to bring peace, for others things are simpler.
So please accept, there are no simple solutions for each one of us is a unique blend of forces,
which we need to learn, and learn how in Christ we can walk in purity and holiness.
 

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The FALSE Gospel being preached is BACKWARDS.
The False Gospel:
You get saved “in sin”, and sanctification is lifelong, but yet, the sin never stops, and you don't say you are going to sin your whole life you are a liar. Or you need Jesus to enter in to you, and make you stop sinning, or you can sin after becoming born again, and not enough room to mention all the other false doctrines, They come in many forms, and fancy names, “gradual sanctification”, “Calvinism”.


All that is a lie. What you Pastor won’t tell you is that - he that commits sin NOT a child of God, but a CHILD OF THE DEVIL.


The narrow way, the terrifying soul purging truths.
If you HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD, you do not know Him, and are under a false Gospel.


The TRUE Gospel: You don’t have a sin nature. You have a free will, God created you good to glorify Him. The knowledge of God is in us all. Rom 1:20. You rebelled and willfully chose to serve Satan. Jesus died to ransom you from Satan because when you sinned, you sold your sold to the devil, and became the devil's property, and needed to be bought back.


SEEK God diligently, Hear, you MUST HEAR and STOP arguing with the Word of God, and HEAR that for the sins you are committing right now, you are a child of the devil FEAR GOD!!! TREMBLE in fear, fall on your face in FEAR, Repent and turn from sin in godly sorrow broken hearted, Obey from the heart in broken humility proving faith by deeds worthy of repentance. If you have stolen, give back. Crucify your flesh, (which is the carnal mind) you must die. Be Baptized. A DEAD MAN goes into the water, The Holy Spirit enters a clean vessel and fellowship is restored a new creature is born fit for the Master’s use. Dead men don’t sin. The sin STOPS in repentance. If you are still living in sin, you are NOT Born Again and have been lied to. The Holy Spirit does not enter into an unclean vessel.
To be born again, the old man must die. To rebel again after this is fatal.
Man cannot crucify Jesus over and over, like they did with animals.
Salvation is a one-time gift, once per person. You cannot sin, repent, sin, repent, till the day you die.
This is false. There will be no repenting in the Kingdom of God.
What you are on the day of your death, is who you will be in eternity, and you will not be allowed in.
No criminals will be allowed in the Kingdom.


Salvation is offered for past sins, old sin.


Many preach Holiness, but I have yet to hear anyone preaching these frightening truths from the Word of God.


These are the frightening truths. Until a person comes to these truths, there is no fear of God,
And without the FEAR OF GOD, they have never met God.
The Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. If you have no fear of God, you have not yet begun.
It is by the FEAR of God, men depart from iniquity. PERMANENTLY.
There is no pride in fear. In fear of God, a person can love others, because they will see everyone
Better than themselves. True Biblical humility.
It is by this soul purging fear, fall on your face as dead fear of God that men depart from sin.
And it is only by walking in the FEAR of God, they keep from sin.


Spend the time of your sojourning here in fear.
FEAR GOD, come to the knowledge of the truth today.


Satan was a liar. YOU WILL surely die.
The sin stops FIRST, or God does not hear your prayers.
The reason men sin is because they LOVE TO.
So, you do not sin anymore, I suppose? Or do you?