Do we follow the Teaching of Christ

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JaumeJ

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Do we follow the teaching of Jesus Christ (the Teacher.?) Or should we simply follow His Example?

This couple of questions here is oxymoronic.

You cannot know anything to follow as an Example if you do not know what and how according to the Master. By the way,
Master is another of the titles of our Lord which is the equivalent of Teacher......
 
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Unlike all of the many religions of the world that function on the teachings of their founders, Christianity requires the presence and function of the living Lord Jesus. Christianity IS Christ. Jesus Christ is not some historical founder of a "Christian religion” who has left us “teachings” to live by. He is Himself the spiritual essence of Christianity, functioning within we who are living by faith in Him.


Miss that and you will have missed entirely the Truth of His Word that sets us free.
 
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Christianity is not a religion giving glory to a dead founder, as is most religions, but a family unit which follows is glorious father. which was expressed and as an example, shown through his LIVING SON
 
Dino246

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JaumeJ said:
Do we follow the teaching of Jesus Christ (the Teacher.?) Or should we simply follow His Example?
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This is a false dichotomy... a needless contrast of one extreme against another as though they were they only options and mutually exclusive, neither of which is the case.

What brings you to ask this question? Have others spoken or written to support such a position?
 
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Some believe to follow the teaching of Christ they must strive to follow each and every literal command of Christ. This would condemn every christian I have ever met, for I have met no one who has even tried to obey each and every literal command of Christ.
Happily we are not all condemned, for Paul tells us the true way:

Carry each others burdens(love them) and so fulfill the law of Christ gal6:2

You can either believe Christs commands are examples of love God and love your neighbour and follow Paul's words.

Or, you can believe something you never will practice
 
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JaumeJ

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Thank you for elaborating on the subject of this thread. Actually, I posted this thread as a courtesy to others who had hijacked another thread. Refusing to start their own thread on the subjec they were discussin, I posted a new thread for them here.

Nice post, thank you.

Dino246 said:
This is a false dichotomy... a needless contrast of one extreme against another as though they were they only options and mutually exclusive, neither of which is the case.

What brings you to ask this question? Have others spoken or written to support such a position?
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preacher4truth

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JaumeJ said:
Do we follow the teaching of Jesus Christ (the Teacher.?) Or should we simply follow His Example?

This couple of questions here is oxymoronic.

You cannot know anything to follow as an Example if you do not know what and how according to the Master. By the way,
Master is another of the titles of our Lord which is the equivalent of Teacher......
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Yep. Read 2 John.
 
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JaumeJ said:
Thank you for elaborating on the subject of this thread. Actually, I posted this thread as a courtesy to others who had hijacked another thread. Refusing to start their own thread on the subjec they were discussin, I posted a new thread for them here.

Nice post, thank you.
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Now now, mature Christianity is not continuing to bring up others perceived faults in public posts
 
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The purpose of the teachings is for us to renew our minds to the truth that we live from the life of Christ that is within us and not by rules or teachings.

Christ Himself is not a set of rules or teachings. We are saved by His life. The teachings are to lead us to depend totally on His life and grace to be manifesting in our lives.

There is a vast difference between trying to live by rules or teachings and living from the life of Christ in us. One is a religion and the other is Life Himself being expressed.

Religion has the totally wrong focus and tries to dictate change in behavior to mimic the true life that only comes from Christ's life flowing in and through us.

Living by the life of Christ within us is actually following the teachings of Jesus because Jesus said "As I live by My Father , so shall you live by Me."

We also live by the same love that the Father had for Jesus.

Jesus lived His life by the life of the Father inside of Him - doing His works in and through Jesus. We too live by this same principle.
 
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JaumeJ

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Once more, the OP question in the other thread had an either, or, or both or none possibility for a response.

It was converted by some to another theme with an "it is either my way or the highway" attitude. I posted this so that that attitude would not be necessary and true dialogue could occur. Again, this is not for me, it is for those who are discussing it....
 
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preacher4truth said:
Are you perceiving his alleged faultiness and posting about it? ;)
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I could say yes.
Or I could say rebuking a brother in love.

But I dont like lying, so my first response is correct.
I'm sure you sympathise with me as you bear in mind your own failings
 
preacher4truth

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You cannot follow Christ without following His teachings; John 14:15; 2 John &c. But hey, you can make all the arguments against it you want, yet Scripture tells the truth about it which is being rejected. Enter the PC plea that even alleged believers use; "You just have 'a differing view'". Famous words used to cover heresy and other errors. :)

Many today attempt to 'hyper-spiritualize' their walk by claiming 'I don't need theology, just Jesus'. Oh, how wonderful! :rolleyes: :p

Not really, it is an utterly ridiculous statement that hasn't been thought out.

Do tell me about this 'Jesus' that you follow? Wait, to do so would be to teach biblical doctrine, can't be having any of that 'doctrine' stuff, right? I actually had a person say this to me, so I asked him which Jesus, and tell me about him. He got rather annoyed that I dismantled his ideology right off the bat. These types do this to appear super-spiritual. Well, they're not.

All the above ideologies I presented simply show that the people who espouse them simply do not like to endure sound doctrine; 2 Timothy 4:3.
 
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Timothy416 said:
I could say yes.
Or I could say rebuking a brother in love.

But I dont like lying, so my first response is correct.
I'm sure you sympathise with me as you bear in mind your own failings
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Yep, we're all there. Thanks for being honest bro. ;)
 
JaumeJ

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I am going to say this once.


Jesus Christ know I postsed this for those who had a question on it. Do not convert this to a post to talk about me. I am not important that way, especially in a forum that is supposed to be devoted to the discussion of the Word.

I adjure you by the Blood of Jesus Christ to temper your emotions and judgment with thos qualities that come with the Hoy Spirit.

My issue in particular with the other thread is that it was suggested people should not be taught, but only follow the Example of Jesus Christ. This is contrary to the teachings of the Teacher.

God bless all who love and are in Jesus Christ, and all who will come to Him.

Now talk about the teachings of our Lord and not about me.
 
preacher4truth

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JaumeJ said:
I am going to say this once.


Jesus Christ know I postsed this for those who had a question on it. Do not convert this to a post to talk about me. I am not important that way, especially in a forum that is supposed to be devoted to the discussion of the Word.

I adjure you by the Blood of Jesus Christ to temper your emotions and judgment with thos qualities that come with the Hoy Spirit.

My issue in particular with the other thread is that it was suggested people should not be taught, but only follow the Example of Jesus Christ. This is contrary to the teachings of the Teacher.

God bless all who love and are in Jesus Christ, and all who will come to Him.

Now talk about the teachings of our Lord and not about me.
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Amen!!! Too much ad-hominem around here! :)
 
Dino246

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Jesus's teachings had several layers to them. On one level, he was "literally" presenting God the Father to the people. On another, He was declaring the holiness of God... the standard of holiness which one must attain in order to be acceptable to God on one's own terms ("your righteousness must exceed that of the Pharisees..."). On yet another, He was showing people that the way was not in strict adherence to the Law, for by the Law no flesh is justified. Rather, He was presenting Himself as the Way.

The example we are to follow is Him seeking God, communicating mutually, and relying on the Holy Spirit for guidance and power to accomplish the Father's will. I see the teaching and example as consistent and complementary.
 
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Then Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit said:
I praise you Father, Lord of Heaven and earth for you have hidden these things from the wise and learned and revealed them to little children. Yes father, for this was your good pleasure luke10:21
 
Blain

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My answer is both because his example is his teachings we walks the talk. If his examples did not show his teachings then he would not be worth listening no one likes a person who doesn't practice what they preach
 
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