TODAY GOD IS NOT ON A SIN HUNT

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joaniemarie

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[h=2]- JANUARY 21 -
GOD IS NOT ON A SIN HUNT[/h][HR][/HR]When you think of Sodom and Gomorrah, what comes to your mind? God’s wrath and fiery judgment? The truth is that God was not all out to judge the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. He was not on a sin hunt. He was, in fact, on a righteousness hunt!

This is evident because if God was on a sin hunt, He would not have allowed anyone to stop Him. But we know that He let Abraham in on what He was about to do and even allowed Abraham to entreat Him.

Abraham asked God if He would destroy Sodom if He could find 50 righteous people there. God’s reply was, “If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.” (Genesis 18:26) Abraham then asked God if He would destroy the city if there were only 45…40…30…or 10 righteous. And each time, God’s reply was that He would spare the place for the sake of the righteous.

Abraham stopped at 10. If he had gone down to just one righteous man, I believe God’s reply would have been the same because He was on a righteousness hunt.

Now, if God was not all out to destroy then, how much more today, when God has already judged our sins in the body of His Son? At the cross, Jesus exhausted all of God’s fiery judgments until there was no more fire of God’s wrath left for us!

Today, God is not judging us for our sins because He has found the righteousness of the one Man—Christ Jesus. So do not let anyone tell you that God judges you for your sins and punishes you with cancer, car accidents, business failures or brokenness. God would be unjust if He punished the same sins twice—in Jesus’ body and then in yours.

Beloved, God is not out to judge you but bless you today, not because you deserve it, but because Jesus was judged and punished in your place!


Daily Devotional Destined To Reign by Joseph Prince

This was a good message for today! The GOOD NEWS is Jesus came to SAVE sinners. It is really interesting how different people see the glass half full or see it half empty. Lot's of people prefer to talk about Jesus coming on a horse with judgement to dispense upon the church and the world.

But wait. While that is true in part, it must be seen in it's full explanation.

I've observed it is very important how I see the many things in my life as blessings. As a born again believers all our sins are gone as the Bible says into the deepest sea forgiven as far as the east is from the west.

And the message to the world is Jesus came to save them from the wrath to come. Jesus offers forgiveness FULL and FREE. Free to all of us in that the payment was priceless. Not free for Jesus because the cost was His shed blood.

How amazing is it that "JESUS CAME TO SEEK AND TO SAVE THOSE WHO ARE LOST"

We are living in the times when EVERYONE who hears the name of Jesus can be saved, has the opportunity to be saved by Jesus Christ. He will take lives and make what is dark and messy as crimson red on a garment and make it white and clean as pure white snow.

Good news for everyone who hears and believes on Jesus Who the Father sent because God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son. John 3:16 Jesus is SEEKING to save those who are lost.

 
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Seems to me God already knew there were no righteous men in S & G. And it speaks more of humoring Abraham since God already knew the answer. He already knew none were righteous and that's why Hes sought to destroy them. This teaching presented suggests God didn't know if they were in there or not and was letting Abraham seek some out. If God didn't already know then why was He even talking about destroying the towns? And could He have really been God if He didn't know? God needs to neither hunt sin or righteousness as He already knows all our hearts.
 
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pottersclay

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He said" I will make you fishers of men" not hunters of sin:eek:
 

Dan58

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Well that's a relief... Time to party hardy:cool:
 

joaniemarie

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Well that's a relief... Time to party hardy:cool:

It's the love of God that persuades and constrains and wins the souls of men. It's our mission to tell them the story of Jesus. Ever hear the song? "Sweetest that ever was heard"

Think about it., when Peter saw Jesus walking on the water after he had rejected Him 3 times even with cursing., was it Peter's knowing how bad he sinned against Jesus or was it that Jesus loved and forgave Peter that caused him jump out of the boat?

Was it remembering his shame and sin or was it knowing Jesus loved him and he had nothing to fear? I know my own answer to that question.,
:) what is yours?

 

joaniemarie

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Seems to me God already knew there were no righteous men in S & G. And it speaks more of humoring Abraham since God already knew the answer. He already knew none were righteous and that's why Hes sought to destroy them. This teaching presented suggests God didn't know if they were in there or not and was letting Abraham seek some out. If God didn't already know then why was He even talking about destroying the towns? And could He have really been God if He didn't know? God needs to neither hunt sin or righteousness as He already knows all our hearts.


This writing doesn't suggest anything like that. God already knows lot's of stuff (like everything)
:rolleyes: He doesn't NEED Abraham OR me or you on board with His plans. But He does WANT us on board. He wants us to KNOW He loves us and He answers our requests and we are a working part of His plan.
 
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Well that's a relief... Time to party hardy:cool:
Or....we could come to Christ and believe the gospel and experience an exchanged life too because we are in Him? It could happen. I have seen it happen before many times...:).
 
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Seems to me God already knew there were no righteous men in S & G. And it speaks more of humoring Abraham since God already knew the answer. He already knew none were righteous and that's why Hes sought to destroy them. This teaching presented suggests God didn't know if they were in there or not and was letting Abraham seek some out. If God didn't already know then why was He even talking about destroying the towns? And could He have really been God if He didn't know? God needs to neither hunt sin or righteousness as He already knows all our hearts.
As it turns out - there were righteous people there after all and I do agree that God did want to let Abraham know what was going to happen. It's good to be on speaking terms with God..:)
 
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Seems to me God already knew there were no righteous men in S & G. And it speaks more of humoring Abraham since God already knew the answer. He already knew none were righteous and that's why Hes sought to destroy them. This teaching presented suggests God didn't know if they were in there or not and was letting Abraham seek some out. If God didn't already know then why was He even talking about destroying the towns? And could He have really been God if He didn't know? God needs to neither hunt sin or righteousness as He already knows all our hearts.

New American Standard Bible
and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men
 
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It doesn't appear to be an either-or scenario. God was demonstrating his love for 'ol Abe and his family while concurrently demonstrating his displeasure with the sinful people of the cities.

Both sides are worthy of being regarded as legendary displays, IMHO.
 

stonesoffire

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I agree with the teaching of Prince. But, as fare as S&G, those men were totally perverted and wanted to desecrate angelic beings.

I hope that kind of thing will never happen this way again, but it still occurs with innocent children. Yet, even these can be forgiven. That's beyond our natural understanding of forgiveness.
 
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when Christ begins to call us into His bosom, we will be convicted, and our sins will begin to haunt us...
how else can such as we be taught anything?!?! His Holy-Love literally breaks our heart in two and we
desperately want to 'over-come' our wicked ways...and so we begin to change/desire our Messiah's ways
that He and His prophets/disciples began to teach us in our Bibles and in our daily lives...
 

joaniemarie

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when Christ begins to call us into His bosom, we will be convicted, and our sins will begin to haunt us...
how else can such as we be taught anything?!?! His Holy-Love literally breaks our heart in two and we
desperately want to 'over-come' our wicked ways...and so we begin to change/desire our Messiah's ways
that He and His prophets/disciples began to teach us in our Bibles and in our daily lives...






And the amazing way that is done which is so hard for us humans to even imagine is the Holy Spirit is not the one causing guilt and shame and desperation and haunting misery when we have sinned and failed.
He is not glad when we are desperate and rushing and fearful as if ready to fall off a cliff emotionally.
That is our way before we learn how to call to our remembrance His gift of no condemnation.

The Holy Spirit instead convicts the believer of who they are in Christ and that this sin issue no longer has control of us. We are learning how to walk in newness of life and how much Jesus did for us by giving us His righteousness. We deal with sin and falling short as forgiven sons all because of Jesus., not how well we make resolutions or how desperately we feel about it by proving how sorry we are.

We are to be learning how to walk in this new and living way and in doing that we begin to sin less and walk in His will more. We see our trust must always be in His secure love and acceptance of us at all times especially when we don't deserve it. That's what His grace allows for us and then actually has called us to.
 

joaniemarie

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It doesn't appear to be an either-or scenario. God was demonstrating his love for 'ol Abe and his family while concurrently demonstrating his displeasure with the sinful people of the cities.

Both sides are worthy of being regarded as legendary displays, IMHO.


I don't think this meaning has to be an either or (either)
:) either..
 

Chester

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From the opening post:

"So do not let anyone tell you that God judges you for your sins and punishes you with cancer, car accidents, business failures or brokenness. God would be unjust if He punished the same sins twice—in Jesus’ body and then in yours."


Indeed for those who are in Christ the price has been paid for our sins and God does not condemn us, but forgives. On the other hand, even if a Christian sins, there can and probably will be negative results.

If a Christian drives at 100 mph down a windy road there may well be a bad car accident. Sure, God can send his angel and keep the Christian safe, but He does not always do this.

As for cancer - it can come I suppose from such things as a continuous diet of junk food, etc., but to think that just because a Christian has cancer he is being punished for sin is a lie.

Not sure why the brokenness is on the list: I want God to bring me to brokenness if I sin - that is not a punishment!

If a Christian keeps sinning in his business, I think it would be for his own good if God punished him by giving him business failure!


 
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Ariel82

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If God wasn't protecting us, we all would have cancer, not due to sin but to this fallen world that will eventually be destroyed and replaced with a New Earth.
 
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pottersclay

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If God wasn't protecting us, we all would have cancer, not due to sin but to this fallen world that will eventually be destroyed and replaced with a New Earth.
Really....could you show me a scripture or some sort of verse? Guess I wasn't protected.
 
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pottersclay

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From the opening post:

"So do not let anyone tell you that God judges you for your sins and punishes you with cancer, car accidents, business failures or brokenness. God would be unjust if He punished the same sins twice—in Jesus’ body and then in yours."


Indeed for those who are in Christ the price has been paid for our sins and God does not condemn us, but forgives. On the other hand, even if a Christian sins, there can and probably will be negative results.

If a Christian drives at 100 mph down a windy road there may well be a bad car accident. Sure, God can send his angel and keep the Christian safe, but He does not always do this.

As for cancer - it can come I suppose from such things as a continuous diet of junk food, etc., but to think that just because a Christian has cancer he is being punished for sin is a lie.

Not sure why the brokenness is on the list: I want God to bring me to brokenness if I sin - that is not a punishment!

If a Christian keeps sinning in his business, I think it would be for his own good if God punished him by giving him business failure!


Yeah being a junk food junkie I guess that's where the cancer came from. So doc what's the treatment?
 
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pottersclay

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Both of you don't know how offensive you are right now. I can't believe my eyes. Have you both had cancer? Just wondering?
The things people assume.
 
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pottersclay

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Hey why don't you both tell those kids at st.judes hospital God's not protecting them, maybe they should of gave up their Halloween candy.
Go a head and tell them. Or go hold the babies that are puking and crying and are so sick you can hear death with every breath.
That is one of the many reason your Lord our God hates sin. Get it. It kills, it destroys, it has no mercy. All are invited to rot before your eyes.
Needless to say you struck a chord with such foolish talk as this.