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Listen to the gospel of your salvation and behold the goodness/glory of the Lord as in a mirror and the Holy Spirit will transform you into the very image that you see because you are in Christ to reflect outwardly who you already are in your new heart that is the inner man - the new creation in Christ.
The life of Christ in the new creation within you will cause you to drop off masterbating like it was a dead leaf on a tree. You do participate in this with the Lord.
Phil. 2:13 For it is God who is at work in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure. Turn to Him and He will give you both the desire ( which you apparently have now ) and the capability "to do" what is good too.
God is not angry with you - He wants you free so that you will experience real life. Christ has already obtained that freedom for you - now you work that out with your total dependence on Him and rely on His grace to bring it about in your life.
How we received Christ is the exact same way we walk this life out on this earth.
The life of Christ in the new creation within you will cause you to drop off masterbating like it was a dead leaf on a tree. You do participate in this with the Lord.
Phil. 2:13 For it is God who is at work in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure. Turn to Him and He will give you both the desire ( which you apparently have now ) and the capability "to do" what is good too.
God is not angry with you - He wants you free so that you will experience real life. Christ has already obtained that freedom for you - now you work that out with your total dependence on Him and rely on His grace to bring it about in your life.
How we received Christ is the exact same way we walk this life out on this earth.
In that case there is something wrong with all men who do not have the gift of celibacy.
There is only one reason, in the Christian era, to get married - we can not hold ourselves:
"Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion."
1Cor 7:9
So, whenever you see some married Christian couple, there is definitely something wrong with them
There is only one reason, in the Christian era, to get married - we can not hold ourselves:
"Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion."
1Cor 7:9
So, whenever you see some married Christian couple, there is definitely something wrong with them
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"That guy" isn't a gender assignment. "Guy" is a regionalism for a man or woman that I use. But, it means the one who does not lust while masterbating. I have been told some are able to do that, but I've never met such a person before. So I'm looking for "that guy." The one who doesn't lust. Just to see if such a person really exists.
Isaiah 55
10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.
10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.
In that case there is something wrong with all men who do not have the gift of celibacy.
There is only one reason, in the Christian era, to get married - we can not hold ourselves:
"Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion."
1Cor 7:9
So, whenever you see some married Christian couple, there is definitely something wrong with them
There is only one reason, in the Christian era, to get married - we can not hold ourselves:
"Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion."
1Cor 7:9
So, whenever you see some married Christian couple, there is definitely something wrong with them
And in reality most people do have sexual issues and there is something wrong with them. It's difficult to live in a sex obsessed culture and come out unharmed.
Marriage is surely more than just sexual union, but the sexual desire we cannot control is practically the only reason given in the New Testament for us to get married, imho.
The fact we cannot control ourselves does not mean we must act like animals and think about sex all the day long. But the burning of it, eventually, comes to everybody, who is hormonally healthy...
I agree we live in a culture of sex... I am not sure if it was different in any point of history.
The fact we cannot control ourselves does not mean we must act like animals and think about sex all the day long. But the burning of it, eventually, comes to everybody, who is hormonally healthy...
I agree we live in a culture of sex... I am not sure if it was different in any point of history.
I don't disagree. But imo there is a difference between a sexual need that can be taken care of in marriage and a continual desire to masturbate. I fully believe that we are capable, through the blood of Christ, to overcome the purely selfish desires that take over when porn and masturbation are involved.
I don't know I always cringe when this topic comes up why? because 9 out of 10 times someone will cross the line and say something that Christians should not be saying why? because they are not what Christ would say. some like to push the discussion right to the edge to see who will go over. That is not a good thing . Now i am not going to go through the threads and post what many have said on this thread but I think it is getting out of hand. I will leave it to the original poster for now on if closing this thread is what they want to do...
Totally agree.
Romans 12:1-2
I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
Romans 13:11ff
11 And do this, understanding the present time: the hour has already come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. 12 The night is nearly over; the day is almost here. So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armour of light. 13 Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. 14 Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the flesh.
Sasja,
Sometimes the things we say can come off sounding a bit like the way Word of Faith people knock others by telling them that if they only had the necessary faith, as they, the WOF people, supposedly do, then they would never be sick again, and will soon see a million dollars appear in their bank accounts.
Although God CAN do that, in this kind of thing, there is often help from other mere humans needed to help you understand how much of this is done.
My Private Mail is always open to you (or anyone) who might feel like they need to hear more on the help available.
Sometimes the things we say can come off sounding a bit like the way Word of Faith people knock others by telling them that if they only had the necessary faith, as they, the WOF people, supposedly do, then they would never be sick again, and will soon see a million dollars appear in their bank accounts.
Although God CAN do that, in this kind of thing, there is often help from other mere humans needed to help you understand how much of this is done.
My Private Mail is always open to you (or anyone) who might feel like they need to hear more on the help available.
I'm probably in the minority, but I don't think its a sin.... God created us with hormones which make us attracted to and desirous of the opposite sex. Masturbation is just a means of relieving that natural desire when it becomes too intense. Your correct, there's nothing in the bible that forbids it.. jmo