Is masturbation dishonoring to God? Is it a sin?

[MessageOfTheCross]

Oi vey! Jesus already came to be the sacrificial lamb. Let's not go back to the failed covenant for salvation. We're the ones who failed it!

Studying this should make us take stock of ourselves. While we certainly realize that the Book of Leviticus was the Law of Moses, and we are living today under Grace, still, the principle has not changed. Sin is just as hurtful, just as destructive, at this present time, as it was then.

The Apostle Paul makes it very clear in Romans 8:10 that the physical body, mind / intellect, and the heart (which is evil - Jeremiah 17:9) has been rendered helpless because of the original sin; consequently, the Believer trying to overcome by willpower presents a fruitless task. Only the Holy Spirit can mortify the deeds of the flesh and make us what we ought to be (Romans 8:13). This means we cannot do it ourselves. Once again, He performs all that He does within the confines of the Finished Work of Christ (Romans 8:2).

If a Christian will and their efforts to live for God is in anything except Christ and the Cross, i.e., Finished Work, The Blood of Jesus (Romans 8:2), Satan can override your will and force you to do things you don't want to do and trying not to do (Ephesians 6:12). Jesus said deny yourself and pick up your cross and follow me (Luke 9:23).

Remember our bodies are dead and useless to God. The heart is prone to wander away from God's love and eat from "The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil." The reason why the body is dead is because of the effects of the fall has made us totally incapable of yielding spiritual obedience on a regular basis (Jeremiah 13:23). So there must be a source outside of myself that helps me to enter into sanctification which is the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:13).


The truth is the entirety of the system of this world is evil. Paul said:

"Who gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the Will of God and our Father" (Galatians 1:4).

There is only one solution, as it regards this foe, and that is "Jesus Christ and Him Crucified," and our Faith in that Finished Work.

 

[JustWhoIAm]

I can't believe you posted this here. Really.

Everybody does it.

Shaddap. Troll.

Tell the NSA to...

 

[popeye]

Discipline.

That is a new word.

There is a saying "you can't stop birds from flying over your head,but you can stop them from building a nest in your hair."

 

[Depleted]

Studying this should make us take stock of ourselves. While we certainly realize that the Book of Leviticus was the Law of Moses, and we are living today under Grace, still, the principle has not changed. Sin is just as hurtful, just as destructive, at this present time, as it was then.

The Apostle Paul makes it very clear in Romans 8:10 that the physical body, mind / intellect, and the heart (which is evil - Jeremiah 17:9) has been rendered helpless because of the original sin; consequently, the Believer trying to overcome by willpower presents a fruitless task. Only the Holy Spirit can mortify the deeds of the flesh and make us what we ought to be (Romans 8:13). This means we cannot do it ourselves. Once again, He performs all that He does within the confines of the Finished Work of Christ (Romans 8:2).

If a Christian will and their efforts to live for God is in anything except Christ and the Cross, i.e., Finished Work, The Blood of Jesus (Romans 8:2), Satan can override your will and force you to do things you don't want to do and trying not to do (Ephesians 6:12). Jesus said deny yourself and pick up your cross and follow me (Luke 9:23).

Remember our bodies are dead and useless to God. The heart is prone to wander away from God's love and eat from "The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil." The reason why the body is dead is because of the effects of the fall has made us totally incapable of yielding spiritual obedience on a regular basis (Jeremiah 13:23). So there must be a source outside of myself that helps me to enter into sanctification which is the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:13).


The truth is the entirety of the system of this world is evil. Paul said:

"Who gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the Will of God and our Father" (Galatians 1:4).

There is only one solution, as it regards this foe, and that is "Jesus Christ and Him Crucified," and our Faith in that Finished Work.

Really? With your advice, everyone is going to get busy all day, and then take a good shower at night. And then? You're okey dokey!

And if any man's semen go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the evening.

And every garment, and every skin, where on is the seed of copulation, shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the even.

The woman also with whom man shall lie and have an emission of semen, they shall both bathe themselves in water, and be unclean until the evening.

Leviticus 15:16-18 NKJV

 

[lastofall]

[for me anyway] this matter applies to that which is written "changing the natural use into that which is against nature", and in this case it is the hands in question: our hands natural use as we very well know practically and common knowledge are for such things as writing, holding, carrying, counting, pushing, pulling, and such like things; but it is against the hands natural use to be used for forbidden lusts: this also applies to any other members of our body, the mouth, and so on. Let us consider our ways.

 

[South_FLA]

1. Does anyone here masturbate and not feel convicted by it?

2. Has anyone here truly prayed to God about this and hear him respond with a yes or no?

So far we've been judging this topic off Scripture interpretation and no one seems to agree.

 

[Depleted]

1. Does anyone here masturbate and not feel convicted by it?

2. Has anyone here truly prayed to God about this and hear him respond with a yes or no?

So far we've been judging this topic off Scripture interpretation and no one seems to agree.

Did you even read the thread?

 

[South_FLA]

Did you even read the thread?

I see some people answer yes to the first question. I was more so waiting for someone new to the thread to answer that one. I have yet to see someone do the 2nd question. Unless I missed that response.

 

[buddyt]

Leviticus 15:16-17
"And if any man’s seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even. And every garment, and every skin, whereon is the seed of copulation, shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the even."

 

[Marcelo]

When asked if masturbation is a sin some pastors say "yes" and some say "no" (provided the thoughts associated with it are not sinful). "If you think about your spouse during the act then it it's not a sin", they say.

Prohibiting unsinful acts can be sometimes just as harmful as permitting sinful ones. Remember when long ago some churches prohibited women from trimming their hair? Women who had their hair trimmed were looked down upon and many ended up leaving the faith. They may have lost their salvation!

We don't have to have all the answers. It's always better to say "I don't know", instead of giving the wrong answer.

When I was a teenager an evangelist approached me and guess what he focus on in his talk! Masturbation, of course! I was 13 and he was absolutely sure I was a masturbator. Wrong approach! I got converted only at age 35 and the evangelist (who later on became my wife) was filled with the Holy Spirit - I could see God in her eyes.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Sexual sin(s)

1 Corinthians 6:18-19 King James Version (KJV)[SUP]
18 [/SUP]Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
[SUP]
19 [/SUP]What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

The phrase, "But he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body," presents in the physical sense a type of the spiritual union of man with devils. That's the reason that God referred to Israel worshiping idols as "spiritual adultery or fornication" (Jer. 3:1-9; Ezek. 23:1-45; Hos. Chpt. 4). In fact, that is what John the Beloved was talking about in Revelation 17:1-2.

Every person is made up of three parts: spirit, soul and body. When Jesus comes into a believer's life, He comes into that person's spirit. John 3:6 tells us clearly, "That which is born of the Spirit is spirit" (NKJV). A demon cannot dwell in a Christian's spirit because that is where Jesus and the Holy Spirit dwell.

We know that according to the Bible God's children are the temple of the Spirit of God (see 1 Cor. 3:16). In the Old Testament the temple had three parts: the holy of holies, the holy place and the outer court. This picture is a type or representation of who we are as His temple today.

The shekinah glory of God, or God's "presence," was in the holy of holies. This part of the temple represents our spirits.

But when Jesus went into the temple to drive out the thieves and moneychangers, He did not go into the holy of holies. He went into the outer court, where these evil doers were carrying on their business transactions.

The whole account is a picture of deliverance—of what Jesus wants to do in our temples. There may be demonic thieves in our lives that are operating in our outer courts (bodies or souls). Even though they cannot enter the holy of holies (our spirits), Jesus wants them expelled because the temple of God was never intended to be a place for thieves to operate. It is meant to be a place of worship and a place of prayer.

Brother John Eckhardt

If a Christian faith is not maintain exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work, i.e., The Cross, i.e., The Blood of Jesus (Rom. 8:2), there's no way he can escape demons. The only way to have victory over sin, the world, the flesh, and the devil, is faith in Christ and His Finished Work.

Brother Jimmy Swaggart

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Every Christian trusts the Lord and believes Him in some capacity. The trouble is, most do not trust Him or believe Him correctly.

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. John 8:82

WHAT IS THE TRUTH?

The Truth that the Believer must have, is that the Cross and the Resurrection, which speak of the Finished Work of Christ, pertains not only to our initial Salvation experience, but as well to our everyday Victory over the world, the flesh, and the Devil. The Believer must understand the Truth that he was in Christ when Christ died on the Cross, was in Christ when He was buried, was in Christ when he was raised from the dead, and continues to be in Christ as He is now exalted at the Right Hand of the Father (Roman 6:3-5; Ephesians 2:6). Consequently, if Christ defeated Satan, that means the Christian has defeated Satan. If Christ atoned for all sin, then no sin can attach itself to the Believer, that is, if the Believer keeps trusting Christ. If Christ is a Law-keeper, than the Believer is a Law-keeper. If Christ is victorious, then the Believer is victorious.

The Believer must understand this, trust in this, believe this, and act upon it, even on a daily basis. This is what Jesus meant by us taking up the Cross daily and following Him (Luke 9:23).

This is the "Truth" which we must learn, act upon, and continue to act upon, which guarantees the help of the Holy Spirit.

If the Believer does not know and understand this "Truth" to simply tell him to "trust Jesus," will really not help him that much. It is the same as telling him that he must "get in the Altars." Without knowing this Truth, he won't really know why he is in the Altars.

In fact, he will be attempting to trust the Lord to do something for him, which in fact, has already been done. He will be attempting to have Faith in God for something, that's actually already taking place. He will be attempting to ask the Lord for something, which in reality has already been brought about.

Jimmy Swaggart Bible Commentary

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Understand Justification by Faith - Romans 3:23

This is why we must understand what justification is and why it is the first subject in the book of Romans. It lays down the foundation as I go through sanctification.

Justification gives me the ability to get back up from every failure no matter how many times and stand up and go through this process and learn it. Justification gives us a legal standing with God that is not cancelled because of the acts of sin. So if I fail at this same thing a thousand times, God forbid, I remain justified by faith (Romans 3:23); For I have kept the ways of the Lord (2 Samuel 22:22; Psalm 18:21; Romans 8:2). Remember, Jesus said, "I did not come to condemn (John 3:17)."

Justification is not what we do, and not what I am, and not what I worked for. It is what Jesus did and my faith in it that gives me the standing with God that I need to carry on my Christian experience. Sometime I do it well, and sometimes I do it not so well, but his justifying Grace will not fail unless my faith fails. It is just if I have never sinned and just if I have always obeyed (Romans 8:1; Romans 8:2).

 

[BenFTW]

To disregard the verse on lusting being adultery because you are single doesn't make sense. If the intercourse is binding upon a married man that means that for the single person it is fornication as opposed to adultery which is just fornication while a person is married.

Masturbation that lusts is sinful, but also too masturbation that somehow one doesn't lust is still not a good idea because it then opens the doors to seek that arousal. It opens up the doors to lust. Once that sensation is entertained you have excited the flesh, and now that is your focus instead of the spirit.

Of course within the confines of marriage, one may make love and there is nothing sinful of it. Be fruitful and multiply, right? It is entertaining these fleshly desires outside of marriage between a husband and wife that people then get into sin and error. Its a slippery slope, one thing leading to another. It just isn't wise. It leads to bad morals.

 

[Sylven]

It's difficult to live in a sex obsessed culture and come out unharmed.

Out of the mouth of Babes!

 

[Dan58]

If you look at a buffet and desire food, are you guilty of gluttony? A hungry person lusting for food is not a sin, its a natural biological instinct. A natural attraction for a woman isn't a sin, only lusting for a woman who's married, or if your married, is adultery of the heart. Wantonness, desire, and lust, are all ingredients that lead to marriage. Coveting what belongs to another is a sin, but lusting for someone who's free and single is a natural function. We'd all be single without lust, and its the lust for a woman that produces offspring.

 

[DiscipleDave]

I know that there's no verse that really forbids masturbation, but the Bible does teach us that our body is not our own, that it belongs to God:

“Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body” (1 Corinthians 6:19-20)"

and that we need to honor God with our body.

So, is masturbation dishonoring to God? Is it a sin?

If the Holy Ghost is convicting you that it is sinful then for you it is sinful.

Any masturbation done via lusting or porn is evil and against God, unless that lusting or porn is towards ones own spouse, or ex-spouse in the case of divorce.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[PrynceNY]

The Lord wants his people to have self control. I understand we have been conditioned in this fallen world to believe many sins are "normal". However according to Gods perspective he wants his people to be holy & avoid things that can taint them. The scriptures talk of many times to endure as well as the Lord wont allow you to be tempted more than you can handle. As long as we are in the world we all will be tempted. However if we rely on God he will help us endure & overcome it.

 

[CS1]

If you look at a buffet and desire food, are you guilty of gluttony? A hungry person lusting for food is not a sin, its a natural biological instinct. A natural attraction for a woman isn't a sin, only lusting for a woman who's married, or if your married, is adultery of the heart. Wantonness, desire, and lust, are all ingredients that lead to marriage. Coveting what belongs to another is a sin, but lusting for someone who's free and single is a natural function. We'd all be single without lust, and its the lust for a woman that produces offspring.

the word "Lust " has nothing to do with Godly desires it is the context of sin. you hungry for food that is not lust.
over eating is and act of gluttony. desiring a women is not sin acting on that desire out of the Context of how God said to .. is sin. no husband LUST AFTER his wife. lust produces the sinful desire to DISOBEY GOD which when lust is completed you sinned.

 

[jerry2465]

Then quit...end of story.....I am assuming your brain controls you appendages..........if you know Jesus, just pray and quit.

For sure, I know sometimes its easier said than done, but the only way to quit doing anything is just to stop doing it.