Christian Faith or no faith all christians must respond

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Is the sinner at total fault yes or no

  • yes

    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • no

    Votes: 4 44.4%

  • Total voters
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Mar 7, 2016
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Question Is the sinner at total fault in every situation yes or no.

the part fault argument
The Greatest in the Kingdom
…5And whoever welcomes a little child like this in My name welcomes Me. 6But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck



The total fault argument.
Matthew 18:15-17

If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that by the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses every fact may be confirmed. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.

 

Sac49

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If all "Christians must respond" then you should state your response first since you brought it up. Or are you "fishing" for an argument? What do you believe?
 

blue_ladybug

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I don't respond well to comments that say I "must respond".. lol
 

blue_ladybug

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No one else has responded.. must be they don't respond well either.. lol
 
Mar 7, 2016
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If all "Christians must respond" then you should state your response first since you brought it up. Or are you "fishing" for an argument? What do you believe?
im not voting just yet as i dont want to pursuade the vote in anyway. as for me this thread i will say no more and will digest the responces.

I will not call t a debate but rather a flexing of the chuckle mussle :)
 
Dec 9, 2011
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Question Is the sinner at total fault in every situation yes or no?
Because of Adam, sin entered the world followed by death,and all men born after Adam fell
were born with the sin nature although we didn't sin like Adam sinned.

So then It was not totally our fault,GOD Is a just GOD and made a way by grace through faith.

Also there Is the age of accountability,Paul himself said he was once alive without the law even though he was always under the teaching of the law.

Sin Is not Imputed where there Is no law.
 

Sac49

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go figure maye i should of titled it stand by your faith and vote for what you believe
Unfortunately your question is not a "vote". The answer should come from Gods Word. We dont get to "vote" upon what Gods Word says.
 

Sac49

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You would have done much better stating what you believe, backing it with Scripture and asking for responses. Then it would be a discussion with you and others learning from Gods Word together.

With the way your OP is put forward i myself dont want to answer, though i have a belief on this subject, because it looks more like a "bait and hook" rather than a discussion. It looks like you are more of waiting to "pounce upon" what you feel is the wrong answer.

Just my opinion on the OP though.
 
Mar 7, 2016
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You would have done much better stating what you believe, backing it with Scripture and asking for responses. Then it would be a discussion with you and others learning from Gods Word together.

With the way your OP is put forward i myself dont want to answer, though i have a belief on this subject, because it looks more like a "bait and hook" rather than a discussion. It looks like you are more of waiting to "pounce upon" what you feel is the wrong answer.

Just my opinion on the OP though.
Na noway im not going to pounce im noteven going to debate if the other doest want to debate. My stance is at what point does it become total fault. i wish to slug it out also but then if you cant handly friendly fire than stick up your white flag
 
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Unfortunately your question is not a "vote". The answer should come from Gods Word. We dont get to "vote" upon what Gods Word says.
its a vote and a discussion **edited**
 
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Billyd

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May 8, 2014
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This poll makes no sense to me.
 
Mar 7, 2016
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Just for the record i am undecided
 

Blain

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...... this poll and the title is all wrong
 

Sac49

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Jun 26, 2016
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its a vote and a discussion stop being a deauce ball and vote pls
Thank you for you kind "Christian" response, in calling me names, to a statement made in response to your calling this a "vote". So again i will respond in saying we dont "vote" upon what Gods Word tells us.
 
Mar 7, 2016
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...... this poll and the title is all wrong
Oh why gees why so paronoid im of to sleep maybe i may see some descent dicussion soon and posts backed up with scripture HELLO ITS A discusion for christian to share there faith.

If on the other hand you want to vote then vote. If you have no faith than dont show it and dont voice your opinion
 
Mar 7, 2016
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Ok no hatred no war just an open dicussion.

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Adstar

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Jul 24, 2016
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My stance is at what point does it become total fault.
That is not the question you asked in your poll....

You asked:: ""Is the sinner at total fault yes or no"" Yes or No... Thats a black and white statement with no grey option given.. Don't start changing the goal post position half way through....