IMMORTALITY IN THE WILDERNESS. THE AIM FOR JESUS TEMPTATION

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Jesus did the opposite of what Adam did when He was in the wilderness forty days and nights and and He earned immortality.
1CORINTHIANS 15:20-22

Jesus obeyed the single commandment given to Him by the Spirit of God who lead Him to be tempted of the devil. For forty long days, He succeeded to obey this commandment with the sinful flesh which He inherited from His mother Mary.

He succeeded in doing the opposite of what Adam did in Eden. With a sinful Inheriteđ flesh on Him, He obeyed God's commandment and conquered the inherited sin in His flesh becoming the first immortal Man to live on earth. He became immortal by the reason of His obedience.


ROMANS 8:3 In whose flesh did Jesus condernmed sin? He condernmed sin in His own flesh.
 
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BeyondET

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What I find interesting about the temptation of Jesus in the wilderness, now a lot of folks probably won't agree on this but that's ok.. IMO that account in scripture didn't happened after the baptism of Jesus but before that while Jesus was of the power yet not complete until the decent like a dove...
 
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FreeNChrist

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Jesus did the opposite of what Adam did when He was in the wilderness forty days and nights and and He earned immortality.
1CORINTHIANS 15:20-22

Jesus obeyed the single commandment given to Him by the Spirit of God who lead Him to be tempted of the devil. For forty long days, He succeeded to obey this commandment with the sinful flesh which He inherited from His mother Mary.

He succeeded in doing the opposite of what Adam did in Eden. With a sinful Inheriteđ flesh on Him, He obeyed God's commandment and conquered the inherited sin in His flesh becoming the first immortal Man to live on earth. He became immortal by the reason of His obedience.


ROMANS 8:3 In whose flesh did Jesus condernmed sin? He condernmed sin in His own flesh.
.....Nope.
 

Adstar

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Jesus did the opposite of what Adam did when He was in the wilderness forty days and nights and and He earned immortality.
1CORINTHIANS 15:20-22

Jesus obeyed the single commandment given to Him by the Spirit of God who lead Him to be tempted of the devil. For forty long days, He succeeded to obey this commandment with the sinful flesh which He inherited from His mother Mary.

He succeeded in doing the opposite of what Adam did in Eden. With a sinful Inheriteđ flesh on Him, He obeyed God's commandment and conquered the inherited sin in His flesh becoming the first immortal Man to live on earth. He became immortal by the reason of His obedience.


ROMANS 8:3 In whose flesh did Jesus condernmed sin? He condernmed sin in His own flesh.
Jesus never earned Immortality... Jesus was immortal and remains so.. Jesus being God manifested in the flesh could never fail and He did not fail..

And Jesus did not have any Sin nature flesh.. Jesus body came into being by the power of the Holy Spirit.. Jesus never had a human dad and did not inherit the curse of the sin nature that all other decadents of Adam has inherited..
 
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LaurenTM

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#5
What I find interesting about the temptation of Jesus in the wilderness, now a lot of folks probably won't agree on this but that's ok.. IMO that account in scripture didn't happened after the baptism of Jesus but before that while Jesus was of the power yet not complete until the decent like a dove...


scripture states that Jesus went into the wilderness to be tempted of satan AFTER He was baptized by John in the Jordan River

stating it was before, is incorrect. align your thoughts with scripture
 
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LaurenTM

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#6
1The beginning of the Good News of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

2As it is written in the prophets, "Behold, I send my messenger before your face, who will prepare your way before you.

4John came baptizing in the wilderness and preaching the baptism of repentance for forgiveness of sins.

5All the country of Judea and all those of Jerusalem went out to him. They were baptized by him in the Jordan river, confessing their sins.

6John was clothed with camel's hair and a leather belt around his waist. He ate locusts and wild honey.

7He preached, saying, "After me comes he who is mightier than I, the thong of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and loosen.

8I baptized you in water, but he will baptize you in the Holy Spirit."

9It happened in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized by John in the Jordan.

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Immediately coming up from the water, he saw the heavens parting, and the Spirit descending on him like a dove.

11A voice came out of the sky, "You are my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
12Immediately the Spirit drove him out into the wilderness.

13He was there in the wilderness forty days tempted by Satan. He was with the wild animals; and the angels were serving him.

Mark 1
 
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LaurenTM

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#7
Jesus obeyed the single commandment given to Him by the Spirit of God who lead Him to be tempted of the devil. For forty long days, He succeeded to obey this commandment with the sinful flesh which He inherited from His mother Mary.

this is heresy

Jesus had no sin in Him at all

please read the New Testament

no sin was ever found in Him

God made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God.

II Corinthians 5:21
 
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BeyondET

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scripture states that Jesus went into the wilderness to be tempted of satan AFTER He was baptized by John in the Jordan River

stating it was before, is incorrect. align your thoughts with scripture
I knew there would be some who would disagree it's quite ok..

So tell me in your opinion what happened when the spirit descended on Jesus at the baptism??
 
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LaurenTM

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I knew there would be some who would disagree it's quite ok..

So tell me in your opinion what happened when the spirit descended on Jesus at the baptism??

I agree with the Bible

apparently, you do not

simple

God requires that we repent...that means to AGREE with scripture and what He says in His word

it would seem you need to repent...align your mind with what the Bible says and do not solicit opinions or insert you own and then be surprised when people who know the Bible point out your error


IMO that account in scripture didn't happened after the baptism of Jesus but before that while Jesus was of the power yet not complete until the decent like a dove
the above is wrong, further, the op states Jesus had a sin nature

that is heretical and also wrong
 
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BeyondET

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I agree with the Bible

apparently, you do not

simple

God requires that we repent...that means to AGREE with scripture and what He says in His word

it would seem you need to repent...align your mind with what the Bible says and do not solicit opinions or insert you own and then be surprised when people who know the Bible point out your error




the above is wrong, further, the op states Jesus had a sin nature

that is heretical and also wrong
I see this a lot,,, I ask a question yet you have no answer but to avoid the question with plan ol muddle..

First and foremost you will be hard press to find any scholar, preacher, expert in scripture to tell you that the four books Mark,Luke,John,Matthew, are in chronological order, it just is not there.

Each book was written in a certain way depending on who the author was addressing.. Some authors condensed things shorten the story while others elaborated on the same story..
 

Sac49

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Jesus did the opposite of what Adam did when He was in the wilderness forty days and nights and and He earned immortality.
1CORINTHIANS 15:20-22

Jesus obeyed the single commandment given to Him by the Spirit of God who lead Him to be tempted of the devil. For forty long days, He succeeded to obey this commandment with the sinful flesh which He inherited from His mother Mary.

He succeeded in doing the opposite of what Adam did in Eden. With a sinful Inheriteđ flesh on Him, He obeyed God's commandment and conquered the inherited sin in His flesh becoming the first immortal Man to live on earth. He became immortal by the reason of His obedience.


ROMANS 8:3 In whose flesh did Jesus condernmed sin? He condernmed sin in His own flesh.
This is incorrect
 

Sac49

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What I find interesting about the temptation of Jesus in the wilderness, now a lot of folks probably won't agree on this but that's ok.. IMO that account in scripture didn't happened after the baptism of Jesus but before that while Jesus was of the power yet not complete until the decent like a dove...
This is incorrect
 
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LaurenTM

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I see this a lot,,, I ask a question yet you have no answer but to avoid the question with plan ol muddle..

First and foremost you will be hard press to find any scholar, preacher, expert in scripture to tell you that the four books Mark,Luke,John,Matthew, are in chronological order, it just is not there.

Each book was written in a certain way depending on who the author was addressing.. Some authors condensed things shorten the story while others elaborated on the same story..

baloney........
 
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BeyondET

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#14
This is incorrect
Well let me show you how some crammed it in and others elaborated on it more.. And you can see how cramming it in changes things about the story... The first disciples Peter and Andrew each story in each book is quite different account.. Quite frankly Matthew doesn't line up to Luke nor Johns statement.

John’s the most interesting do what Andrew went and got Peter than took him to Jesus.. huh how does this match with Jesus walking by the Sea of Galilee and seeing the both of them or were is the rest of the story of Luke when Jesus catches the huge net of fish.. this is because of condensing and elaborated on something then gets mixed up...

Matthew 4

18 As Jesus was walking beside the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, Simon called Peter and his brother Andrew. They were casting a net into the lake, for they were fishermen.
19 "Come, follow me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men."
21 At once they left their nets and followed him.
21 Going on from there, he saw two other brothers, James son of Zebedee and his brother John. They were in a boat with their father Zebedee, preparing their nets. Jesus called them,
22 and immediately they left the boat and their father and followed him.

John 1
35The next day John was standing there again with two of his disciples. 36When he saw Jesus passing by, he said, “Look, the Lamb of God!” 37And when the two disciples heard him say this, they followed Jesus.
38Jesus turned around and saw them following. “What are you looking for?” He asked. They said to Him, “Rabbi” (which means Teacher), “where are You staying?”
39“Come and see,” He replied. So they went and saw where He was staying, and spent that day with Him. It was about the tenth hour.
40 Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, was one of the two who heard what John had said and who had followed Jesus.
41 The first thing Andrew did was to find his brother Simon and tell him, "We have found the Messiah" (that is, the Christ).
42 And he brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, "You are Simon son of John. You will be called Cephas" (which, when translated, is Peter.

Luke 5

1 One day as Jesus was standing by the Lake of Gennesaret, with the people crowding around him and listening to the word of God,
2 he saw at the water's edge two boats, left there by the fishermen, who were washing their nets.
3 He got into one of the boats, the one belonging to Simon, and asked him to put out a little from shore. Then he sat down and taught the people from the boat.
4 When he had finished speaking, he said to Simon, "Put out into deep water, and let down the nets for a catch."
5 Simon answered, "Master, we've worked hard all night and haven't caught anything. But because you say so, I will let down the nets."
6 When they had done so, they caught such a large number of fish that their nets began to break.
7 So they signaled their partners in the other boat to come and help them, and they came and filled both boats so full that they began to sink.
8 When Simon Peter saw this, he fell at Jesus' knees and said, "Go away from me, Lord; I am a sinful man!"
9 For he and all his companions were astonished at the catch of fish they had taken,
10 and so were James and John, the sons of Zebedee, Simon's partners. Then Jesus said to Simon, "Don't be afraid; from now on you will catch men."
11 So they pulled their boats up on shore, left everything and followed him.
 
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BeyondET

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#15
Speaking on the temptation after the baptism, one book has the temptation after the baptism, and another doesn't even mention the temptation just that Jesus just went on his way..
 
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LaurenTM

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#16
how about this simple question?

since you liked the op, do you believe that Jesus inherited sinful flesh from His mother?

that , is the actual discussion here...not your perceived ability to correct theologians

so, please answer the question that actually matters...

do you believe...is it your opinion...that Jesus was half sinful?
 
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LaurenTM

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#17
Speaking on the temptation after the baptism, one book has the temptation after the baptism, and another doesn't even mention the temptation just that Jesus just went on his way..

what version of the Bible do you go to in order to make statements like this one?

let's take a look at what the Bible actually states


1 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 And after He had fasted forty days and forty nights, He then became hungry. 3 And the tempter came and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.” 4 But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.’”5 Then the devil took Him into the holy city and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down; for it is written,
‘HE WILL COMMAND HIS ANGELS CONCERNING YOU’;
and
‘ON their HANDS THEY WILL BEAR YOU UP,
SO THAT YOU WILL NOT STRIKE YOUR FOOT AGAINST A STONE.’”
7 Jesus said to him, “On the other hand, it is written, ‘YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.’”

8 Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory; 9 and he said to Him, “All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me.” 10 Then Jesus said to him, “Go, Satan! For it is written, ‘YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY.’” 11 Then the devil left Him; and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him.



12 Immediately the Spirit impelled Him to go out into the wilderness. 13 And He was in the wilderness forty days being tempted by Satan; and He was with the wild beasts, and the angels were ministering to Him.



1 Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led around by the Spirit in the wilderness 2 for forty days, being tempted by the devil. And He ate nothing during those days, and when they had ended, He became hungry. 3 And the devil said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread.” 4 And Jesus answered him, “It is written, ‘MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE.’”5 And he led Him up and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said to Him, “I will give You all this domain and its glory; for it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. 7 “Therefore if You worship before me, it shall all be Yours.” 8 Jesus answered him, “It is written, ‘YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD AND SERVE HIM ONLY.’”
9 And he led Him to Jerusalem and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down from here; 10 for it is written,
‘HE WILL COMMAND HIS ANGELS CONCERNING YOU TO GUARD YOU,’
11 and,
‘ON their HANDS THEY WILL BEAR YOU UP,
SO THAT YOU WILL NOT STRIKE YOUR FOOT AGAINST A STONE.’”
12 And Jesus answered and said to him, “It is said, ‘YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.’”

13 When the devil had finished every temptation, he left Him until an opportune time.



the gospel of John is recognized as a different approach to the life of Christ

so, you either have an agenda to disprove what scripture teaches, or you need to go and study what is actually written


 
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BeyondET

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This is incorrect
This is quite humorous Mark must have been running behind that day when rewrote the account.. lol.. Wow only two verses now that is short compared to other statement about it..


Mark 1
12At once the Spirit drove Jesus into the wilderness, 13and He was there for forty days, being tempted by Satan. He was with the wild animals, and the angels ministered to Him.
 
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LaurenTM

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#19
so we have an obvious problem here

the op believes that Jesus inherited sinful flesh and the first responder agrees than attempts to state the gospels differ in there accounts and posts unrelated scripture to address that belief

now why would folks go and do something so egregious and anti-truthful?
 
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LaurenTM

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This is quite humorous Mark must have been running behind that day when rewrote the account.. lol.. Wow only two verses now that is short compared to other statement about it..


Mark 1
12At once the Spirit drove Jesus into the wilderness, 13and He was there for forty days, being tempted by Satan. He was with the wild animals, and the angels ministered to Him.


are you mocking the scriptures?

why would you do that?

who are you exactly and why are you trying to discount the Bible?

scripture has now been posted regarding the three accounts of Jesus baptism and temptation in the wilderness

you ignore that, because it proves you do not know the truth, and then you start mocking

what's going on?