The Sign Of Jonah

[Spurgeoncy]

There are two schools of though about Jesus' death.

One is that the Passover mentioned is an annual Passover, so that he was crucified on a Wednesday, and hence spent three days in the tomb.

The other is that he was crucified on a Friday.

Which is correct? In which year was Our Lord actually put to death?

 

[oldhermit]

He was crucified on Friday.

 

[prove-all]

There are two schools of though about Jesus' death.
One is that the Passover mentioned is an annual Passover, so that he was crucified
on a Wednesday, and hence spent three days in the tomb.

The other is that he was crucified on a Friday.

Which is correct? In which year was Our Lord actually put to death?

the Lord’s passover

On the 4 th day of the week in 31 ad., spent three all days in the tomb.
On the fourteenth day of the first moon, in the first month, Nisan.
astronomical knowledge show passover in 31 ad was a wednesday.

The three Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke show that on the night Jesus Christ
was betrayed, He and His disciples prepared and kept the Passover
(Matthew 26:18,Mark 14:12, 16; Luke 22:15)

Christ Instructed Keeping Passover on 14th

Christ was killed in the afternoon[daytime] of the 14th. But Christ keep the Passover
the night portion of the 14th—that is, the night before the day Christ was crucified.

The Jews keep the Passover on the evening[start] of the 15th of Nisan.
But is this the correct day to observe the Passover?

 

[prove-all]

Mark 16:1 says Mary Magdalene and her companions bought spices
“when the sabbath was past.” They were planning to prepare these
ointments and spices so that they might anoint the body of Jesus.

Yet Luke 23:56 says they prepared these spices and then rested on
the weekly Sabbath day. Compare these two texts carefully.


Mark said these women bought the spices after the sabbath was past.
Luke said they prepared the spices before the Sabbath arrived.


Those who hold to the Good Friday-Easter belief must conclude that these
verses are a glaring contradiction.. They are not! They complement each other
perfectly,if you understand that there were two sabbaths that week.

 

[prove-all]

“In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week,
came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre” (Matthew 28:1).

The King James, along with just about every other Bible version, translates
the first part of this verse, “In the end of the sabbath” or “after the sabbath.”


But if you study the Greek text, you learn that the word for sabbath is
actually plural! “After the sabbaths,” it should read.



The reason Matthew refers to sabbaths, plural, is because there were
two sabbaths that week! When Matthew says Mary came early Sunday morning,
before dawn, after one of the sabbaths, he is referring to the weekly Sabbath.

 

[prove-all]

Jesus crucified on a Wednesday afternoon and buried later that evening,
before sunset. The next day, Thursday, was an annual sabbath. The day
after that, was preparation day for the regular weekly Sabbath.

 

[prove-all]

the USA Today article and encyclopedias point out, the Easter tradition for Christians began with
“the words of the ancient Nicene Creed”—not with the Bible. The tradition actually has its roots
in paganism, following customs that began long before Christ ever lived

 

[oldhermit]

The fact that σαββάτων is plural does not necessarily suggests two separate sabbaths. The plural form of σαββάτῳ is often used even when only one sabbath day is clearly meant.

 

[prove-all]

The word Easter in Acts:12:4 is one of the worst translations of the bible.

 

[prove-all]

This is the start of the 14th

1Co 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you,
That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
1Co 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat:
this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.


1Co 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped,
saying, This cup is the [new testament] in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it,
in remembrance of me.

referring back to this...

Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat
this [passover with you] before I suffer: For I say unto you, I will not
any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.

Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said,
Take this, and divide it among yourselves:

Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine,
until the kingdom of God shall come.

Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them,
saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying,
This cup is [the new testament] in my blood, which is shed for you.


Do what in remembrance of me? They were taking the Passover.
Jesus changed the symbles of the passover only, did not do away with it.

The Passover service also consists of the foot washing...

Joh 13:12 So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments,
and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?
Joh 13:13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.
Joh 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet;
ye also ought to wash one another's feet.

Joh 13:15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
Joh 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord;
neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.

Joh 13:17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.
and then Paul says this...

1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth
the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump,
as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep [the feast],
not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness;
but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

And he said that to a Gentile church, to keep the feast of unleavened bread.


Acts 12:3 (KJV)
And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also.
(Then were the days of unleavened bread.)

Acts 20:6 (KJV)
And we sailed away from Philippi after (the days of unleavened bread),
and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.


Nowhere is a Sunday morning Ishtar sunrise service taught in scripture
but the Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread are taught.

first passover was when God covered Adams nakedness[type of sin]
with skins from an animal, shead blood.

the Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread was a memorial,
ordained forever, before one word of the old covenent was even spoken

 

[prove-all]

-Christ fulfilled passover by shedding his blood.
Therefore let us [keep the feast], 1 Corinthians 5:8

-Feast of unleaved bread represents putting away sin (transgression of Gods law)
God brought thee forth out of Egypt by night.” we have to start this jurney

Exodus 12:14 “And this day shall be unto you for [a memorial];
and ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations;
ye shall keep it [a feast] by an ordinance [for ever].

Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread.
And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation …”

a memorial—not a shadow, a memorial—a feast—to be kept forever
A memorial of deliverance from Egypt, which pictures to us deliverance from sin!


the feast of unleavened bread pictures our part in putting away sin in our lives.

 

[prove-all]

When the Pharisees asked Christ for a sign as proof of His Messiahship, being in
the grave three full days and three full nights was the one and only sign Jesus gave.
He meant what He said. In another passage, He even referred to the daylight portion
of a day as including 12 hours (John 11:9).

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When Mary approached the tomb early Sunday morning, [before sunrise],
an angel nearby exclaimed, “He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come,
see the place where the Lord lay” (Matthew 28:6).

-

There were no eyewitnesses to Christ’s resurrection,
and there is only one historical record: the Holy Bible.

Christ’s proof of His messiahship was singular:
the length of time He would be in the ground.

 

[oldhermit]

I really hate to burst your bubble on this but all of your conclusions are built on a false premise. There is no way you can even confirm in what year Jesus died therefore, there is no possible way you can can prove that the 14th Abib fell on a Wednesday that year. The law of the Passover and the subsequent offering of First-fruits demonstrate the precision of time that covers three days and three nights from the 14th to the 16th of Abib. This does not comprise five days from Wednesday to Sunday. Jesus is both the Passover and the First-fruit sacrifice.

 

[prove-all]

Crucifixion Passover Date

 

[prove-all]

The Origins of Easter sunrise service

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Rite

The Roman Rite has been adapted over the centuries by
the Catholic Church, following the old Antiquity of the Roman Mass
a Liturgical_rite they adapted from times of old before Christ, it reads

It is still redolent of that liturgy, of the days when Caesar ruled the world
and thought he could stamp out the faith of Christ, when our fathers met
together before dawn and sang a hymn to Christ as to a God.

 

[oldhermit]

Crucifixion Passover Date

I am not going to waste my time on this link. The simple fact is that there is a three year margin of error that exist in the historical time-line that cannot be reconciled. This is a non-debatable fact. This is why NO ONE can prove that the 14th of Abib fell on a Wednesday that year. You can however prove from scripture that it fell on Friday that year.

 

[oldhermit]

The Origins of Easter sunrise service

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Rite

The Roman Rite has been adapted over the centuries by
the Catholic Church, following the old Antiquity of the Roman Mass
a Liturgical_rite they adapted from times of old before Christ, it reads

It is still redolent of that liturgy, of the days when Caesar ruled the world
and thought he could stamp out the faith of Christ, when our fathers met
together before dawn and sang a hymn to Christ as to a God.

I wish you would cease and desist with this Easter nonsense. I have no regard for the Easter celebration. This is a RCC invention.

 

[BeyondET]

I am not going to waste my time on this link. The simple fact is that there is a three year margin of error that exist in the historical time-line that cannot be reconciled. This is a non-debatable fact. This is why NO ONE can prove that the 14th of Abib fell on a Wednesday that year. You can however prove from scripture that it fell on Friday that year.

I like your statement on historical time line, I've always wondered what's up with the time line, what I mean is the time between 1BC and 1AD. I assume these means Before Christ and After Death well that's what I've seen it to be meaning,, kind of complexing to me.. lol..
For some reason I think of something like 33 years or so in between those time lines.. Not sure how to look at that,, If I may ask, what are your thoughts on stuff like that..

 

[prove-all]

If Jesus were in the grave only from late Friday afternoon to sometime before dawn
on Sunday morning, then the only sign He gave that He was the prophesied Messiah
was not fulfilled. The claim of His messiahship rests on the fulfillment of His words

Each of the Gospel writers gives an account of the events, but each presents different
aspects that we need to correctly synchronize and harmonize to produce a clear sequence
and understanding of what happened.

The Bible does not contradict itself (Psalm:119:160; John:10:35), that not one
of the Gospel accounts contradicts what the other Gospels reveal.

 

[prove-all]

-Astronomy observence

"The human race never lost the septenary [seven day] sequence of week days and
that the Sabbath of these latter times comes down to us from Adam, though the ages,
without a single lapse."—Dr. Totten, professor of astronomy at Yale University.

"Seven has been the ancient and honored number among the nations of the earth.
They have measured their time by weeks from the beginning. The origin of this was
the Sabbath of God, as Moses has given the reasons for it in his writings."
—Dr. Lyman Coleman.

"By calculating the eclipses, it can be proven that no time has been lost and the
creation days were seven, divided into 24 hours each."—Dr. Hinkley,
The Watchman, July 1926 [Hinkley was a well-known astronomer].

"There has been no change in our calendar in past centuries that has affected in
any way the cycle of the week."—James Robertson, Director American Ephemeris,
Navy Department, U.S. Naval Observatory, Washington, D.C., March 12, 1932.

"It can be said with assurance that not a day has been lost since Creation, and all
the calendar changes notwithstanding, there has been no break in the weekly cycle."
—Dr. Frank Jeffries, Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society and Research
Director of the Royal Observatory, Greenwich, England.


There is no question about which day the seventh day of the week is. The weekly cycle

the break between the shift from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar?
There was a well known break of 10 days.

In 1582, that Thursday the 4th was followed by Friday the 15th.
The weekly cycle was not interrupted. Now take a look at 1752, Wednesday
the 2nd was followed by Thursday the 14th. Again, the calendar had to be
adjusted to correct it to the seasons but the weekly cycle remained unchanged.